• It's About Time - Discussion

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    ^This is the truth. It's also relevant because adorable Twilight.
    Saturday, March 10, 2012 op
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    1. Crunch NuggetMarch 10, 2012 at 5:13 PM

      I'm surprised nobody has suggested the idea that maybe Tartarus is where they locked up all the humans, or is otherwise somehow supposed to be a gateway to Earth.

      Anyway, this was a fun episode, and I don't care if it was predictable, they usually are. I think they handled the time travel itself perfectly, including the spell detail that a pony can only go back once. Unrestricted time travel for easy alteration of the past just seems too convenient. No wonder nopony knows about that spell if its practical uses are so limited, though.

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    2. El_DaraxMarch 10, 2012 at 5:26 PM

      EP was kinda mediocre. Last week's was tons better....but anything with that much Fluttershy is going to be tons better then the majority of all episodes. *shrug*

      Especially when Rares gets told off in the same episode...that's just a bonus. XD

      I did enjoy the entire "I can't stop talking and let you say what you need to say" scene between twi and future twi. Interesting reference to Tarturus...wonder if it will come up again.

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    3. skhpldkMarch 10, 2012 at 5:29 PM

      You know, Twilight's a lot like Sheldon Cooper.
      FAN FICTION CROSSOVER IDEA!!!

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    4. AnonymousMarch 10, 2012 at 5:33 PM

      Am I the only one who noticed the 1989 batman reference?

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    5. Paul Davidson (Photon)March 10, 2012 at 5:44 PM

      FINALLY A TIME TRAVEL EPISODE!!!! and the doctor was not involved in any way! Now all we need us one about aliens and my life will be complete!!!!! Now there's two alternate time lines and they're both canon! It's an alternate reality that was created by Twilight's decision to travel back in time, and how did she not realize that SHE was the reason this whole episode even happened. Time to make everypony's head hurt.

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    6. skhpldkMarch 10, 2012 at 5:46 PM

      It's actually a closed time loop, not two timelines.

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    7. KhimairaMarch 10, 2012 at 5:57 PM

      I'll have to watch again to hear the MGS "!" sound.

      Was hoping future Twilight would time-travel like in Terminator and have the same background music.
      Also wished present Twilight asked if time-travel followed Terminator or Back To The Future rules like the South Park Gooback episode.

      Was hoping to see Twilight crack like in Pinkie Keen but I guess it had to be different since she freaked out in Lesson Zero.

      Maybe also a Starswirl the Bearded statue in his own library wing.

      Oh well still enjoyable.

      Since Twilight and Pinkie were wearing skin tight suits, is pony-toe canon?

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    8. AwesomekikMarch 10, 2012 at 6:09 PM

      No one noticed the Percy Jackson reference?

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    9. UnknownMarch 10, 2012 at 6:15 PM

      Anyone else but me catch the Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy nod in this episode?

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    10. JakeMarch 10, 2012 at 6:20 PM

      @skhpldk

      Oh God, yes. Write it, my good man.

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    11. LemonLimeManMarch 10, 2012 at 6:29 PM

      I loved this episode! It fits with how I see time travel, you can't change anything. Also all the gags are great.
      I just want to point out if no one else has, Twilight asks if there will be a "epic pony war", war is a known concept/may have happened in Equestria.
      Also I would love to see Twilight with the eye patch in at least one more episode. Don't know why but it would make me happy.

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    12. Karl N. HauberMarch 10, 2012 at 6:29 PM

      Oh my gosh, Twilight Sparkle called her telescope a nine and a quarter inch catadioptric, when it was CLEARLY a nine and a quarter inch telephoto refractor. The series is ruined!

      Sorry, I couldn't find anything real to complain about.

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    13. YoshiAngemonMarch 10, 2012 at 6:36 PM

      Remember: In order for ANY of the episode to make sense, Twilight HAD to travel back one week to TRY to tell Past Twilight. Just the same as how Bender made one last trip back to 2000 AD, to stick the time code on Fry's butt in the first place! And THAT time travel triggered the Universe ripper to end all Universe Rippers - The Yivo Incident!

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    14. SeanoftheBreadMarch 10, 2012 at 6:40 PM

      A good episode. They better do something with the Pony Inferno concept though.

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    15. samadi101March 10, 2012 at 6:50 PM

      So we know there's a Baltimare now....

      10pts for the first Omar Little Pony :D

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    16. TundraMarch 10, 2012 at 6:58 PM

      *spoiler alert*
      Moral of the story: you can't change the past.
      *end spoiler*

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    17. L4R63N7March 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM

      I just got done watching the episode. I'm a little disappointed, not that it was bad, but I was expecting more. I think I set myself up for disappointment though. I was so hyped about this one because of the last few super Awesome episodes. But how can you possibly beat Assertive Fluttershy?! Still Future Twilight Rocks!

      I've noticed some comments about how there was no time travel paradox in this one. I believe there is one. If time travel is possible, and Future Twilight comes back to warn Present Twilight, this mean Future Twilight already experienced what Present Twilight is experiencing. Which means Future Twilight WAS at one in Present Twilight's place talking to her own "Future Twilight". So if you follow Future/Present Twilight encounters back to their origin, eventually a Future Twilight would not have existed to come back and warn herself. So, what I would like to know is, what did Twilight originally travel back in time to warn herself about. I mean if there was no Future Twilight to warn her there must have been some Other reason for her to go back in time to warn herself.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b5aW08ivHU

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    18. L4R63N7March 10, 2012 at 7:07 PM

      Sorry, wrong link.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpau88qPA-w

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    19. FarnorMarch 10, 2012 at 7:19 PM

      far my favourite episode of the season so far

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    20. jayessellMarch 10, 2012 at 7:24 PM

      Called it at 5:39 AM.

      But I thought she'd have to recite what she heard on purpose to prevent a paradox.

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    21. daemonMarch 10, 2012 at 7:28 PM

      Twilight should definitely keep that style.

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    22. CosmofurMarch 10, 2012 at 7:37 PM

      One thing that stood out for me, was how they left Twilight with some 'serious' injuries and didn't clean them up in the end. For example the paper cut scar was several days old (it was at least three days old based on Twilight's date error) Also the eye injury, you burn your retina and let Pinky self diagnose you into wearing an eye patch?
      Sure I'm sure that by next week out favorite purple unicorn will be back in the pink, but almost be justified for her to be 'one eyed and scared' for the rest of the season.

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    23. KkatMarch 10, 2012 at 7:45 PM

      Two new locations: New Pegasus and Baltimare!

      Fallout: Equestria Side Stories taking advantage of the new settings in 5... 4... 3... 2...

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    24. YohMarch 10, 2012 at 7:55 PM

      It's just me or there is a referrence to Metal Gear Solid in this episode or i am just crazy?

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    25. ShippoyashaMarch 10, 2012 at 8:14 PM

      Whoa. not as much bloated complaining about this so this week. I swear Merryweather gets too much flack for being a new writer.

      Anyway, I do not think having a Cerberus means hades exists in Equestria. Equestria has its own lore and interpretation of myths since episode 1

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    26. SarahMarch 10, 2012 at 8:21 PM

      @Yoh

      There's clearly one for Metal Gear Solid 4 where Twilight tries to hide beside the statue.

      http://i.imgur.com/LL3na.jpg

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    27. NotepersonMarch 10, 2012 at 8:29 PM

      Welp, I've got a new episode to add to my top 5. That was great!

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    28. AnonymousMarch 10, 2012 at 8:32 PM

      hey were is the actuall equestria daily this is all i can find i mean dont get me wrong i love twilight she and fluttershy take the number one spot but i cant find it and my god new episode today. Squeeee to bad i had to miss it DAWWWWWWW

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    29. MikeMarch 10, 2012 at 8:44 PM

      @JD
      lol, yeah: the night shift are like Luna's bat-guards.

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    30. HMorris73March 10, 2012 at 8:49 PM

      @Twifight Sparkill
      She noticed, that's why she sent the lost dog flier to Twilight.
      @darkconsoles
      Come on, you've never been surprised by the show before?

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    31. FirewolfMarch 10, 2012 at 8:56 PM

      No Derpy?

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    32. Candace CoxMarch 10, 2012 at 9:00 PM

      I realized some Fridge Horror - this episode proved truly how psychotic Twilight is, in a more subtle way. Why?

      She wanted to stop time.

      She wanted to basically destroy the entire potential existence of everypony, including herself, to stop a disaster from happening. She's willing to basically sacrifice the lives of other ponies to get what she wants!

      ... My grimdark fanfic just got some canon merit... O___O

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    33. Nightweaver20xxMarch 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM

      I'm going to have to watch this a few more times to get all the refs. I was too busy blogging/eating to catch everything. Not as clever an ep as some, but packed with little bits that make it worth a few rewatches.

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    34. ToonicornMarch 10, 2012 at 9:09 PM

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    35. ToonicornMarch 10, 2012 at 9:11 PM

      Well, I thought this ep was really clever. I was, as they say, "riveted throughout". The pacing was excellent; events built very nicely to a satisfying conclusion. And Pinkie was genuinely funny; it was the first time I've ever really laughed out loud at her (the balloon/"EEEEEK!" incident). And my affection for Twilight just grows and grows. So cerebral and gifted, yet so vulnerable. What a great heroine she is.

      And I must agree with Spike, but with a differing sentiment: Twilight (and the rest of the Element Bearers) SHOULD go out on epic adventures more often. I'd love to see something as amazing as the two-part "Nightmare Moon" episodes again. But until then, episodes as enjoyable as this one will do quite nicely.

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    36. CutekittyMarch 10, 2012 at 9:25 PM

      @Shadowed Rainbow

      That's a good point, actually; it's unsettling to think that Twilight wanted to just completely stop time to stop one disaster from coming. O_O To be fair, though, she'd gone, what, nearly a week without sleep? Going without sleep can really screw with the mind, so I'm inclined to chalk up her rather extreme solution to a not-quite-fully-functioning, sleep-deprived, overly stressed mind.

      Moving on to the episode as a whole: I actually tend to not like the idea of time travel all that much; the idea of a set-in-stone timeline, or even of a ball of timey-wimey stuff, just... confuses me. But I still found the whole time loop thing amusing and well done in this episode, which I quite enjoyed.

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    37. AnonymousMarch 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM

      To everyone talking about the paradox in this episode, it's an ontological (or self-generating) paradox. It goes like this: Twilight only freaked out because she met her future self. But at the same time, she never would have gone back in time if she hadn't freaked out. So then, how did the freakout happen the first time, before the time travel ever happened? No one can say, and really, it's impossible for it to have happened, and yet here's our episode. There's your paradox, folks.

      Among the most well-known ontological paradoxes that I can use for an example is the Song of Storms in Zelda: Ocarina of Time. As Adult Link, you learn the Song of Storms from the guy in the windmill. Then, you go back to Young Link and play it for the guy in the windmill. The only reason he could teach it for you in the future was because he learned it from you in the past. Where did the Song come from? It generated itself, it would seem. So, too, did Twilight's freakout.

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    38. AdolphusMarch 10, 2012 at 9:28 PM

      ok, this episode teached me:

      1.- Spike dreams with Candies and Rarity, and combined both, is the perfect Spike's dream.

      2.- New Cities: Las Pegasus (at least, i heard that) and Baltimare.

      3.- No matter the creature (excepting growing dragon) Fluttershy rocks!!

      3.- Pinkie Pie's part time work is read the future. (and she do well!! :) )

      4.- Spike get Ice Cream from ANYWHERE.

      5.- Pinkie Pie is the best ninja.(better Rainbow Dash).

      6.- Twilight Sparkle talks a LOT in emergency cases.

      And, finally, that was a really fun episode!!

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    39. milleniummaster18March 10, 2012 at 9:30 PM

      Played the time loop story, didn't add anything remarkable.

      A meh episode, a flop compared to the rest. They could've done worse, I guess, yet this one's among the worst of the season.

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    40. KusaMarch 10, 2012 at 9:35 PM

      Solid Snake twilight is NAO A CANNON THANK YOU EPISODE FOR THIS WONDERFUL GIFT!!!

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    41. EdMarch 10, 2012 at 9:52 PM

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    42. pmcollectorboyMarch 10, 2012 at 9:59 PM

      "Monitor EVERYTHING!" is probably the best Twilight phrase so far.

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    43. NerdHoofMarch 10, 2012 at 9:59 PM

      Gypsy Pinkie Pie is canon!

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    44. EdMarch 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM

      There is a small paradox in the time travel here, in the form of removal of the cause-effect relationship:

      1) Future Twilight tells Present/Past Twilight where the time spells are.(The Starswirl the Bearded wing of the Canterlot Archives)...

      2) Freak out scenes and stuff...

      3) Present/Past Twilight takes this information, and eventually finds and uses the the time spells (which she wouldn't have known about if not for the time travelling idiocy of your future self) then tells her past self about them on an urge to keep herself informed...

      Point:
      WHO TOLD HER WHERE THE TIME SPELLS WERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? Twilight did, but also was unaware of them until her future self told her; who only knew because her future self told her.

      Do you see where I'm going here? Twilight learned something about the world from herself, who did not know it at all beforehand.

      This is the only issue that I saw, the episode resolved any other time related issues. Well done Lauren Faust, you understand time-travel laws! ...mostly.

      First post, btw.

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    45. Nova25March 10, 2012 at 10:02 PM

      @Tundra
      ''The Future refused to change''.
      ''But you are still hungry''.

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    46. AwalkMarch 10, 2012 at 10:27 PM

      FINALLY been waiting a long time for another Twilight Sparkle episode!

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    47. AnonymousMarch 10, 2012 at 10:30 PM

      @Ed

      See my post above. That's called an ontological paradox. Really, they're the most common kind of paradox and almost completely unavoidable when dealing with time travel. It goes beyond just the location of the time spells, too.

      What caused Twilight to freak out, then realize she didn't need to freak out, then go back in time to tell herself that in the first place? Twilight did! But if Twilight did... Why did she freak out in the first place?

      Like I said, almost completely unavoidable.

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    48. Rob CampanaMarch 10, 2012 at 10:31 PM

      So, I watch some new ponies to wash the horrible aftertaste of Mass Effect 3's ending from my mouth, but then the show jas to go and say not only 'Cerberus,' but the Horsehead Nebula. Why, ponies, why!?!

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    49. DavyMarch 10, 2012 at 10:39 PM

      @Nova25TWO Chrono Trigger references?! =O

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    50. AnonymousMarch 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM

      although she next to fluttershy is the most sexy pony she's probably gonna go crazy but no time soon i think there gonna do an episode for each one having a mental breakdown bu crazy twi would be great to see again

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    51. ijustwanttopostMarch 10, 2012 at 11:00 PM

      And I only knew what "catadioptric" meant because it's used in the name of one of Flandre Scarlet's spell cards.

      The great western meme engine and the great eastern meme engine: Teaching astronomy one word at a time.

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    52. AnonymousMarch 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM

      damnit why did i have to miss this episode and all its refrences

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    53. Nova25March 10, 2012 at 11:14 PM

      @Davy
      ''1, 2, 3... 3 References! Ha ha ha''. Indeed.
      ...wait ?
      ...mmh, no, 3 references. ;)

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    54. Wilson BennettMarch 10, 2012 at 11:45 PM

      *sigh* Guess I'm going to have to be alone in my opinion for this episode.

      I'll say it loud and clear: I hate stable time loops, they just annoy the *yay* out of me, I got sick of them back in Gargoyles and honestly I jsut don't like them, which is also why I don't both with Terminator movies, I prefer time travel to work like in Back to the Future.

      Yes there were great bits of this episode, the fact that ponies could take ven the most outrageous things Twilight says seriously, Cerberus and Fluttershy with the reference to Tartarus (which gives me a great piece of info for a story I should be writing), madame Pinkie Pie, Pinkie going "even I don't know where that vase came from" and Spike going for broke with big tubs of ice cream.

      But while I didn't hate the episode and it's certainly far from the worst episode of this series the tiresome stable time loop trope left a bitter aftertaste in my mouth.

      Now before anyone says anything I'd like to say that objectively I have no problems with the episode, the stable time loop thing is just a personal dislike of mine and some I never use when I work with time travel, this is jsut a subjective opinion about one things that I don't like. The episode was pretty good but as far as "twilight goes nuts" plots go I much prefer Lesson Zero.

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    55. AnonymousMarch 11, 2012 at 12:13 AM

      Anyone who doesn't understand the concept of stable time loops or where Twilight's motivation came from should read Harry Harrison's "The Technicolor Time Machine". It's a great story in its own right, and it also serves to explain quite a few issues created by time travel along the way.

      Personally, I'm still geeking out about the fact that the first time we have clearly-readable text in MLP it's calculus.

      One thing I am wondering: what is Twilight's position in Ponyville? Does the librarian become Acting Mayor whenever she feels like it? How can she just assume responsibility for the town like that?

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    56. AnonymousMarch 11, 2012 at 12:24 AM

      Yay for ponies as cat burglars.

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    57. darkconsolesMarch 11, 2012 at 12:35 AM

      @HMorris73I was, by little things, but not by overall story of episode.

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    58. darkconsolesMarch 11, 2012 at 12:36 AM

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    59. AnonymousMarch 11, 2012 at 12:36 AM

      It was a good ep. My criticism about season 2 was nonpresent here (too narrow focus on a single pony). Plenty of cameos by everyone elss, interesting concept and lots of great individual moments.

      Whether the time travel was accurate or something it's not really a factor with how I grade an episode.

      I thought they had to make Twilight a little dumb to make that whole plot work but it's a show aimed at children so I understand they had to make it simple to get kids to not be confused by it.

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    60. VinciFriscoMarch 11, 2012 at 12:43 AM

      I missed a few school periods, but when we see Pinkie Pie trough the crystal ball, shouldn't her face not be upside down?

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    61. ChaosMedlerMarch 11, 2012 at 12:52 AM

      "Magical Obediance training!" ???? What! They made twilight a sadist whip cracker!

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    62. ChaosMedlerMarch 11, 2012 at 1:12 AM

      shes now snake and a time traveler.... ooooooooh!
      and the mythology!
      I approve!

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    63. 309387421March 11, 2012 at 1:23 AM

      Gosh I love Twilight Sparkle!!
      She's already my favourite pony and this episode has to be one of my favourites in the series!

      Twilight Sparkle episodes are always awesome!

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    64. James RyeMarch 11, 2012 at 3:17 AM

      At least here i can still use my Googleblog account. Hopefully Seth and co. gets that fixed fast.^^

      Someone already wrote a fic including Tartarus as some kind of prison hell in Equestria? :D

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    65. VanishingMarch 11, 2012 at 4:30 AM

      Haven't been too crazy about this season as a whole, but this episode was pretty solid. Pinkie was tolerable AND funny, Dash's appearance was brief but entertaining, and the Twilight/Spike abuse of one another made me lol.

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    66. Reality CheckMarch 11, 2012 at 5:37 AM

      @the-matthew "...One thing I am wondering: what is Twilight's position in Ponyville? Does the librarian become Acting Mayor whenever she feels like it? How can she just assume responsibility for the town like that?..."

      Well, Twi takes her orders directly from Celestia, wich appears to be the sovereign ruler. That makes her a federal agent, basically. So she can probably override any local authority when she wants to.
      :)

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    67. AnonymousMarch 11, 2012 at 6:05 AM

      @Reality Check: So Twilight is basically an FBI agent?

      AWESOME.

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    68. D. ShadowsMarch 11, 2012 at 6:17 AM

      What the cheese! Nobody even referrenced Sealab 2021 in all this TIME!

      Oh, well... Don't care anymore as I've moved onto the future.

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    69. AnonymousMarch 11, 2012 at 7:13 AM

      A really nice episode. I especially liked how Pinkie, Fluttershy and Dash all got some nice moments as well and the episode didn't focus solely on Twilight to the exclusion of everyone else. Also, I noticed how Rainbow lied to Twilight about her hair in an attempt to spare her feelings, which is interesting because she's normally incredibly tactless and blunt.

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    70. AnonymousMarch 11, 2012 at 7:25 AM

      Thank you BronyState for a clean feed and no commentary. Pony Time was awesome this week.

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    71. FilipMarch 11, 2012 at 7:37 AM

      Basically, I knew it's gonna be good, when I saw the writers name. Mr Larson is, I guess, my favorite for the moment. He never let me down.

      that is why other characters got at least a little screen time.

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    72. NolimMarch 11, 2012 at 8:22 AM

      I am glad they went for the "bootstrap paradox". Between this and the "grandfather paradox", it has to be the lesser of two evils.

      Alternate realities are fine too, except it is not a time travel story anymore.

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    73. EonMasterMarch 11, 2012 at 9:08 AM

      @Shadowed Rainbow She didn't have any sleep in a week. In the US, you're considered to be insane if your haven't slept in 3 days(anyone who hasnt slept in over 3 days can legally declare temporary insanity in court hearings).

      So, this wasn't normal Twilight we were dealing with, this was insane Twilight.

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    74. kenan89March 11, 2012 at 9:54 AM

      WTF WHERE ARE THE EPISODES I CANT FIND A SINGLE PLAYLIST OR ANYTHING THAT PLAY EACH SEASON IN THE RIGHT ROW

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    75. GravensteinMarch 11, 2012 at 9:58 AM

      i was expecting the disaster to end up being spike burning down the starswirl the bearded wing of the library with another huge fire-belch due to his upset stomach from all the ice cream, and that future!twilight's warning to present!twilight was supposed to be "don't let spike eat so much ice cream". O WLEL

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    76. AnonymousMarch 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM

      I guess I got spoiled by complex storylines in fics... There were some great details, but overall plot of this episode was too plain and generic.

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    77. NinjaBabyBrony72March 11, 2012 at 10:03 AM

      Twilight's Voice seemed...very boring in this episode

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    78. Karl N. HauberMarch 11, 2012 at 10:22 AM

      Wow. We're really stretching to find things to complain about now aren't we? The episode was too plain and generic? And season 1 episodes about sleep overs or athletic competitions weren't? Voice actors voice sounds funny? As if they didn't sound different the first time you ever watched an episode?

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    79. SheepotatoMarch 11, 2012 at 10:41 AM

      Anyone speculate what Star Swirls sand timer was counting down to?

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    80. 11BoltsMarch 11, 2012 at 1:24 PM

      d

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    81. SomeGuyMarch 11, 2012 at 3:17 PM

      I loved this episode, Twilight was amazing. Amazingly funny. She really has to learn to A) not turn every small problem into a big problem and B) Although being organized and prepared is a good thing, she can't control or account for everything, which I guess was the morral of the story. I love how Twilight is surprised nat no-pony is suspicious that she, the personal magic student of Celestia, would be walking around the magic archives.
      The animation was very frenetic with lots of big dramatic motions. Pinkie seems to be in a lot of episodes this season, either staring or co-staring. Love the world building with all the new locations mentioned. The music was excellent as always.
      Once again great job FiM Crew.

      I wonder how long it will be before someone writes a fan fic about Twilight's adventure to return Cerberus home. I wonder what the odds are that it wont be grimdark?

      I can see all the crazy stuff Pinkie has scattered around Ponyville becoming a new meme, maybe.

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    82. RodneylivesMarch 11, 2012 at 3:22 PM

      I notice that, when it came to find the right spell in the archives, that once again it was Pinkie who found it (although it wasn't instantaneous like the previous times).

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    83. Midnight_CresentMarch 11, 2012 at 3:33 PM

      @D. Shadows

      You sir are awesome!!!

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    84. Midnight_CresentMarch 11, 2012 at 3:45 PM

      REAPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      They got Twilight!!!

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    85. James RyeMarch 11, 2012 at 4:10 PM

      @SomeGuy

      I liked how unlike in AJ´s episode Pinkie didn´t played Twi into the wall. She was the co to the star, the muffin to the cupcake, the Pinkie to the Sparkle, etc. But it wasn´t a Pinkie Pie show with some Twilight mixed in it.^g^
      Poor AJ though. :/

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    86. John41March 11, 2012 at 5:37 PM

      I really like the fact that it was a predestination paradox. I think too many mainstream television shows and movies have time travel as an obstacle to overcome where characters go “I’ve seen the future and now I must change it” despite the obvious paradox that is created when the future is changed and their dystopian future that caused them to act no longer exists. I think that the fact Twilight was able to learn a lesson about time, and about herself, was much more satisfying. Perhaps it would have been more satisfying, as others have said, if there was more character interaction/development along the way, but in the time allotted I think they did quite well.

      I do wonder how well the target demographic was able to handle the time traveling aspects though. So many in the community seemed to miss the whole concept of the paradox, desperately searching for the first event that caused it all, which you’ll never find since the cause is the effect…

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    87. KhimairaMarch 11, 2012 at 5:51 PM

      Watched again and began thinking when RD says she has the all clear from Phillydelphia to Las Pegasus. I originally thought Las Vegas = Las Pegasus. But in context I'd say Philadelphia to L.A. So now I'm thinking Los Pegasus = Los Angeles. But Americans do say los and las the same.

      Anyways also thought StarSwirl only wrote a time spell not a time/teleportation spell. So Twilight should have gone back in time in the Canterlot library and not back in time and in Ponyville. So she would've had to race back to Ponyville to only just make it.

      However StarSwirl the Bearded was the greatest wizard ever. So maybe his spell is so powerful it takes you back not only in time but also the exact place you want to be.

      I was also thinking maybe Twilight didn't say Tartarus but Tar-Taurus? We need to see that script.

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    88. AnonymousMarch 11, 2012 at 7:52 PM

      Rewatched and I now think Pinkie Pie was behind the whole thing. She's the one who "originally" finds the time travel spell, and she gives Twilight the eyepatch as well as causing the headband. It also makes sense that Pinkie would have brought Cerberus since she is the first to react to his presence, and Cerberus gets everypony to panic with Pinkie when earlier nopony would. Plus Pinkie would be the ideal first-cause of a stable time loop, since at least in fanon she has the unique ability to step outside what everypony else thinks of as reality.

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    89. Daniel DemskiMarch 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM

      @Wilson Bennett If it helps you accept 'stable time loops', think of it this way:

      In a back-to-the-future style time theory where paradoxes must be consciously avoided, there is something like 'meta-time' so that we label the individual timelines a, b, c, et cetera, in the order they 'occurred' in meta-time. Regarding ordinary time there are stable objects like rocks which last over time and unstable objects like fire or ripples which eventually dissipate. In meta-time, the unstable objects are time travel events which create paradoxes; these are wiped out the next timeline, or perhaps they just disappear outright. The stable objects in metatime are stretches of time which never get interfered with via time travel, as well as time travel events which do not uncause themselves.

      Sometimes an initially unstable time travel event can resolve itself into a stable time loop, just like stable ash can only occur after unstable fire. The idea would be: Pinkie Pie initially finds the time travel spell and gets Twilight to use it, probably to make time for scheduling time to schedule! The next time around Pinkie plans to have Twilight travel through time but discovers she has 'already' done so, so Pinkie comes along with Twilight instead to find the time travel scroll. However, Twilight has not done the scheduling she needs to do and goes back in time to tell herself she actually has to do the scheduling at some point in order to send the schedule back in time; this is still not a stable time loop. At this point Twilight doesn't let herself speak and the next loop is like the one we saw.

      Highly stable time loops can take a lot of meta-time to form because of things like Twilight not usually making the exact same speech she heard in the first place. Over iteration after iteration they would build up defense mechanisms to keep themselves from being changed by their participants; in this episode the defense mechanisms were the "signs," which kept future Twilight from relaying the message by distracting past Twilight.

      After an infinite amount of meta-time passes we arrive at a timeline from whose point of view time travel cannot change the past.

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    90. ConviciumMarch 11, 2012 at 9:30 PM

      This episode is the exact reason Twilight isn't even close to being my favorite character. Some people find her "nerdyness" and her way of being overly worried about everything is cute, but I find it VERY obnoxious.

      Also, I didn't find Pinkie very amusing in this episode. It's tied between Pinkie, Rarity, and Twilight between who my least favorite character is. She reminds me of a certain friend of mine who is constantly trying to be funny, but instead comes off as VERY annoying. That Fortune Teller scene for example, was very awkward and dreadful. I wanted the scene to end ASAP!

      (SPOILERS, but if you got this far in the comments without watching the episode you probably know what happens anyway)

      Twilight comes off as someone(pony?) who would over analyse the SHIT out of anything, so how did she not find fault in going back in time to warn herself about something that isn't going to happen? Everything that has happened to Future Twilight was happening to Present Twilight as well, so did she, or even Spike and Pinkie for that matter, think: "Huh, what if Present Twilight goes back in time, and the exact same thing happens that happened with Future Twilight? She'll get cut off and think that the Twilight from the Future was supposed to be a harbinger of the end times?" Besides, why go back in time, to warn her to not be worried about a potential disaster, when you can just NOT go back in time so she wouldn't know about it anyway?!

      I HATED this episode, worst episode of season two by far. I don't agree with the moral at ALL. Don't worry about the future? Take everything as it comes? Don't try to prepare for what could be a potential threat to you and everyone you know? Yeah, that'll go very well in the future.

      Just sayin'.

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    91. Squirrel in the Cherry TreeMarch 11, 2012 at 10:00 PM

      Really liked the episode, and I'm SO glad lots of other ponies thought the audio was a bit funny. I thought I was going crazy or my Skullcandies were messed up. :O Sounded like the same people but... ehh... I don't know what's going on. XD

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    92. Fenris730March 11, 2012 at 10:22 PM

      Why can I reply here but not any of the new topics O-o

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    93. Soul TsukinoMarch 11, 2012 at 11:27 PM

      Ponies in ninja suits. Guess Pinkie must have a bunch of those stashed around too (and Rainbow Dash found one earlier).

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    94. Sgt ByrdMarch 12, 2012 at 4:26 AM

      @Fenris730

      They switched to intensedebate comments, you'll need to allow scripts to run for the site intensedebate.com if you use something like noscript.

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    95. RonSeidelMarch 12, 2012 at 9:27 AM

      It was interesting, I kinda went ugh when Twi mentioned trying to fix all of Equestria, but it was great to see Luna's guards and more mention of Star Swirl, if that guy doesn't get to appear once, I will be disappointed. What I don't understand though, is if there is a place, Tartarus, for the monsters, why are there so many still running around?

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    96. AnonymousMarch 12, 2012 at 11:13 AM

      Oh look. Twilight Sparkle overreacting and freaking out over nothing... again.
      For her being a such a popular pony, she sure doesn't do much. I wish she had more of a personality with more facets. :9

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    97. KhimairaMarch 12, 2012 at 5:48 PM

      @Convicium

      They probably ran out of time for the episode but I would've liked a scene where Pinkie finds the spell and Twilight says I wonder it would be better if I don't go to the past and we have a scene of the Derpocalypse and Twilight says messing with time is bad I better go.

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    98. ClaireMarch 14, 2012 at 10:33 AM

      @L4R63N7
      My guess is in the original timeline, the Cerberus WAS the disaster. The demons from Tartarus escaped and Twilight became a badass demon fighter. She went back in time to try to warn herself of the Cerberus so that it wouldn't happen, but Past!Twilight took the warning too far and...well, this episode.

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    99. AlextheLoneMarch 17, 2012 at 1:35 PM

      The 1080p Stream is down! My Life... ruined!

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    100. chrisls121March 17, 2012 at 2:05 PM

      Least they waited til the New EP was up :D, and I'd gladly buy it off iTunes if I could(Canada).

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    101. Sgt ByrdMarch 17, 2012 at 2:24 PM

      @AlextheLone

      New stream bro:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5vxLOpNVQU&hd=1

      @chrisls121

      UK, you can get around that with gift card tricks if you desperately have to give Apple your money, but I don't. Not a big Apple fan.

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    102. EriMarch 17, 2012 at 2:36 PM

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    103. AnonMarch 17, 2012 at 3:41 PM

      Episode taken down by Hasbro D:

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    104. AnonMarch 17, 2012 at 3:43 PM

      @Sgt Byrd oh thanks for the new link ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5vxLOpNVQU&hd=1 )

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    105. Sgt ByrdMarch 17, 2012 at 4:43 PM

      @Howl

      You're welcome, Hasbro tends to wait around a week before sending streams to the moon.

      Search for "reddit my little episode guide" to find an episode guide listing up to date streams.

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    106. AnonymousMarch 17, 2012 at 5:09 PM

      Hasbro brought the axe down fast this time. I never even got the chance to watch the 1080.

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    107. AnonMarch 17, 2012 at 9:59 PM

      Well, I just realized this is last week's episode, so here, this is the one that aired today :)
      http://youtu.be/cVkHsCzAbZc

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    108. Sgt ByrdMarch 18, 2012 at 4:15 AM

      @Howl

      Lemme guess, you clicked the link at the top of the page? Seth forgot to change that.

      There is a new post for the new episode. It should still have working streams.

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