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    An episode about Applejack? It's about dang time!

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    1. Ikusa GTJanuary 21, 2012 at 4:21 PM

      Legendary Episode

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    2. SilfirJanuary 21, 2012 at 4:27 PM

      ... Applejack didn't "lose", what in blazes are you talking about? There were tons of Applejack episodes before and there will be (and Applejack's fear of disappointing others by not keeping her promises already featured in one of them), but Derpy speaking is a bombshell completely out of left field. Of course that's going to make a splash, just like Luna did.



      I have trouble believing that they had to ask so many ponies to finally find one that had seen Applejack, who must've taken part and placed in almost every competition there was.



      When I had to pause the episode to wait for it to finish loading during the chase scene, I took some time to try and work out the resolution. It was obvious that she didn't have money to send home and was trying to earn it with Cherry Jubilee. My theory as to why she didn't have it was that while she did win, she encountered somepony who had greater need of it and gave it away. It turned out to be easier; she didn't win at all.

      Which is a valuable lesson to teach in and of itself; you can come short even if you give your very best, because others are going to give their best too and not everypony can win. That lesson enough could've made a full episode.

      It's often been observed that Americans tend to treat silver and bronze medals earned at international competitions, like the olympics, with a certain amount of disdain: You don't "win" silver, you lose gold. I'm not sure how much truth there is to that.

      This episode isn't really about that, either; Applejack is distraught because she didn't earn prize money, not because she didn't win. Which illustrates, perhaps, a difference in her and Rainbow's competitiveness; Rainbow NEEDS to win, Applejack enjoys competing, doing her best, and takes pride in her abilities, but her home, friends and family matter more.



      It could be that an original version of the script called for Applejack to refuse to go home BECAUSE she didn't win anything, and that the writers realized that alone wasn't enough. Hence the town hall.

      Which, by the way, gives this show one more example of the Ponyville Mayor being an expy of the Townsville Mayor. It takes some enormous degree of incompetence and irresponsibility to ask one individual pony to finance a community project all on her lonesome, instead of financing the repairs with taxes or a communal fundraiser. The Townsville Mayor at least had an excuse in that the Powerpuff Girls were usually the only ones capable of dealing with all the random crap that happened to Townsville. But there was at least one episode centered around him calling them up for increasingly banal tasks, like opening his pickle jar. Once the Mayor starts calling in mane cast members to open pickle jars, it's as obvious as it could ever be.

      Incompentent figures of authority are a common device in children's shows since that allows the typically younger protagonists to feature more prominently as solvers of problems and heroes. As such, I don't even really complain; I loved the little Mayor in PPG and I quite like Mayor Mare. I don't think there is really anything in this episode for me to complain about.

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    3. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM

      Applejack getting shafted in terms of screentime is a myth.

      Sisterhooves Social was practically a Rarity-AJ episode. Major role in Cutie Pox, Decent amount of time in Maredowell.

      The real character who's getting ignored this season is Fluttershy.

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    4. FalkenadJanuary 21, 2012 at 4:42 PM

      So everyone knows that Applejack didn't lie right not once she just didn't tell her friends anything and didn't talk about it. Also applejack is best I know nothing of this derp you speak of. *Liarjack face*

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    5. RanYakumoJanuary 21, 2012 at 4:43 PM

      @Flutterfan

      Exactly. She may not have had any episodes dedicated to her (Last Roundup was more of a Mane 6 one than Applejack), but she does have a ton of screentime.

      Still looking forward to The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000, even if this episode wasn't my favorite.

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    6. AlfadorJanuary 21, 2012 at 4:44 PM

      Pinkie didn't know if she was going to make it? Wasn't she wearing a diaper just last week? >:3

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    7. Cedric BaleJanuary 21, 2012 at 4:46 PM

      RARITYCATCHME

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    8. Em VJanuary 21, 2012 at 5:09 PM

      I demand remixes involving Pinkie Pie's pickle-barrel kumquat "discussion"!!!

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    9. FiremaneJanuary 21, 2012 at 5:17 PM

      i'm curious, did anyone notice that the Art for the episode was noticeably different from previous episodes? the 'feel' of the Art changed somehow. can't place my hoof on it, but something was different, noticeably different.

      also, Derpy with voice and non-background screen time is awesome!!! loving the dizty acident prone pegasus!

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    10. Jimmy JamesJanuary 21, 2012 at 5:18 PM

      @Flutterfan
      If you think about it, there have been a lot of implications that the main characters help Fluttershy get over her shyness off-screen. You could say that she's evolved, but we just haven't seen a lot of it. I do hope she gets an episode or two by the end of the season, or at least be present as a side character (since there were only like four episodes with all six of them).

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    11. MadDoctorDJanuary 21, 2012 at 5:26 PM

      DOUBLE CHECK NOW!

      DOCTOR WHOOVES SPOTTED AT 7:47

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    12. AlondroJanuary 21, 2012 at 5:31 PM

      @Alfador 8:15 IT IS CONFIRMED CANON THAT PONIES HAVE TO PEE!!! D:

      This was clearly the most important information of the entire episode! I expect numerous fanfics devoted to it!

      (trololololo) >:3

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    13. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 5:32 PM

      "YOU PINKIE PROMISED!!"

      D:

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    14. FlashcodeJanuary 21, 2012 at 5:40 PM

      DERPY!!!

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    15. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 5:43 PM

      The Derpy parts were absolutely disgusting. Fandom Derpy I can almost tolerate, especially the more sympathetic portrayals of her, but they just blew it out of the water. Just complete, outright jokes about mental handicaps. Not to mention that, even if you don't care about ability discrimination, you have to admit that it was cheap pandering. This entire bit really soured the whole show for me, and I have lost a lot of respect for the creators.

      On the brighter side, Rarity's "Is it because you were insulted when I insulted your hair" has now cemented her on top as my favorite pony, though Rainbow was coming really close with all of her awesomeness in this episode. Once Rarity gets back to Ponyville, they can fight it out!

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    16. milleniummaster18January 21, 2012 at 5:48 PM

      Top-notch episode, I enjoyed it.

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    17. AlondroJanuary 21, 2012 at 5:50 PM

      @Turtwig YES!! Someone besides me is ancient... I mean... 'cultured' enough to recognize the nod to the famous "I Love Lucy" chocolate-wrapping scene! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NPzLBSBzPI

      Classic gag used! +15 cultural reference!

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    18. MikeJanuary 21, 2012 at 5:57 PM

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    19. milleniummaster18January 21, 2012 at 5:59 PM

      Did somebody else notice that the first track of this episode is inspired by the Bonanza theme song?

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    20. MikeJanuary 21, 2012 at 6:02 PM

      @Flutterfan

      You have a point. Dragonshy was a great episode; we should have more like it

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    21. MikeJanuary 21, 2012 at 6:05 PM

      @milleniummaster18
      Hmm... Maybe

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    22. MikeJanuary 21, 2012 at 6:08 PM

      @deltart
      Earlier, I said on the subject:

      "I hope they do more with Derpy. The way I see it, they could go two directions with her character, just as the fanon has: lovable oaf, or misunderstood genius with terrible hoof-eye coordination.

      Given those choices I hope they go for genius. It's less predictable, puts more common stereotypes on the chopping-block, and makes Doctor Whooves + Derpy as time travelling companions all the more likely.

      Besides, The 'lovable oaf' concept is nice, but it’s a tricky direction to go for a budding TV show. Worst case, it would trip over stereotypes like 'Blonde' and 'Mentally handicapped' instead of destroying them. Not sure if want."


      It seems the show has indeed stumbled over those stereotypes to some extent, but perhaps they will recover their balance. We just have to be patient and see what the development team does with this; and we should most certainly reserve negative judgements for later.

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    23. Lord ElliottJanuary 21, 2012 at 6:08 PM

      @Firemane

      I did notice that some the outlines on the bodies of the ponies were broken, as if they forgot the activate the smoothing feature of their animations program or whatever (not an animator). That error may have been in previous episodes, but I really noticed it in this episode when one pony walked up close across the screen. The most noticeable spot was on their backs just above the cutie marks or before the tail. It also appears on their "arms" when making certain gestures if I recall correctly. This seemed to be a problem when the shot was set at an angle to the ponies.

      After first spotting this I watched it again and started seeing it everywhere!! lol Very distracting, but I managed to block it out.

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    24. ToonicornJanuary 21, 2012 at 6:15 PM

      Really enjoyed this ep, save the ending. It's just a bit hard to believe that everyone would forget Pinkie and Rarity, and just go home. Seems rather out of character. But still this ep was fun. I've never been a Derpyphile, but her scenes were very cute, and the interaction between her and Rainbow were quite funny. Pinkie (my least favorite pony, please forgive) did have some good moments, although I did feel bad for poor Rarity having to put up with her during the long hard road home. Hopefully she really did give Rainbow heck when they got back. Couldn't blame her, poor girl.

      Loved the pony puns - Calamity MANE and Wild Bill HITCHcock. Classic!

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    25. Lord ElliottJanuary 21, 2012 at 6:19 PM

      @Toonicorn

      Two characters riding one of those rail "things" (not sure what it's called) into the sunset at the end of a show is a cartoon classic. This episode was chuck full of such references. That's why they were left behind. I also thought it was kind of out of character for them (excepting Dashie).

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    26. Lord ElliottJanuary 21, 2012 at 6:21 PM

      @Lord Elliott

      Correction: That's not just in cartoons, but a lot of old timey movies and Westerns.

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    27. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 6:23 PM

      OBLIGATORY OMG DERPY YESYESYESYESYES
      Did anypony else notice the significant amount of times Bon Bon appeared with them and cheered on AJ? She might be related to the apples. She appeared on the station both times to cheer AJ.

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    28. Smokey TrebleJanuary 21, 2012 at 6:28 PM

      Is it just me, or are we seeing more colts in the crowd shots now?

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    29. SilfirJanuary 21, 2012 at 6:28 PM

      And when she helped clean up on the Rodeo grounds in Canterlot, she acted like she didn't even know her. That ingrate!

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    30. getoman10January 21, 2012 at 6:30 PM

      Why is everyone still calling him girl.

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    31. Chaosbo1January 21, 2012 at 6:31 PM

      so is this a Apple Jack episode or Derpy's? cause you know if you look at the comments.

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    32. Chaosbo1January 21, 2012 at 6:33 PM

      so is this a Apple Jack episode or Derpy's? cause you know if you look at the comments.

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    33. ZaehlasJanuary 21, 2012 at 6:40 PM

      Although it was great to hear Derpy, finally, and although Hasbro has confirmed that Rainbow considers her name to be "Derpy",

      I wished that she didn't sound nasal. Just a personal wish of mine, and I had really hoped they would go with the name of Ditzy Doo, and that her NICKNAME was Derpy.

      Ugh. I'll cope.

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    34. Psycho GothJanuary 21, 2012 at 7:01 PM

      @Zaehlas
      Yes, someone who agrees with me. I think her voice was awful, Pierce smoulder got it right in my opinion. Also, Lauren Faust said her name was Ditzy Doo so that's her real name. Derpy is just a nickname I figure.

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    35. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 7:13 PM

      Sad Applejack was best part.

      The best episode but I don't care about Derpy.

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    36. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 7:21 PM

      A slightly slow, nasal voice is not a mentally handicapped voice. It's a nasal voice. Lots of brilliant people have it. It can mean that someone has nasal/sinus congestion or that they do a lot of mouthbreathing for other reasons. But it usually just means that, for whatever reason of choice or chance, one speaks with one's voice positioned in one's nose.

      I imagine that ponies, having much more nose area, would be prone to nasality. Pony voice teachers probably spend a lot of time teaching pony singers not to do it.

      And it's nice to have an alto or contralto as part of the character stable. There are way too many sopranos in American cartoons, and I speak as a soprano.

      As for the rest... I've spent the last week or so having trouble focusing, thanks to my new contacts not being well adjusted to my astigmatism. (The replacement pair lets me focus again, thank God and the lensmaker.) My vision problems are as nothing compared to poor walleyed Derpy's divergent strabismus, and I certainly found myself banging into things a bit.

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    37. Simply MilkJanuary 21, 2012 at 7:22 PM

      Did Derpy appear in this episode?

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    38. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 7:37 PM

      Simply Milk -- Heh.

      Re: AJ, this wasn't so much about "stubborn pride" as stubborn keeping of one's word. In many ways, Applejack has an old-fashioned Victorian or Colonial view of keeping one's word and fulfilling one's commitments, to the point of idiocy. In "Applebucking Season", we see her stuck on one solution and interpretation -- she alone would do everything, and no other solution will do.

      In this one, she's stuck on the point of honor of getting money for Ponyville. In this case, it's not just stubbornness, though. She was uncomfortable about all the trust she was given, thought herself unworthy of praise and attention, and thought that she could repay it all by winning money for Ponyville.

      When she doesn't win, she feels that she is not just shamed, but a thief who has stolen praise that she did not deserve, public attention, and time. So she becomes fixated on money (as she often does!) as the only way to pay back a tiny fraction of what she owes to everyone else, and to regain her honor as an honest mare of her word.

      It is very likely that, since she felt she had lost her honor, that she was entirely justified in using loopholes. She was already a lowdown pony; playing a lawyer pony without actually lying wasn't going to make her any less a snake. Also, she was hoping that the Code of the West would prevent anypony from asking too many questions about why she left home.

      OTOH, the other Mane Five had a right to be obnoxious. They didn't sign on to be Victorians or follow the Code of the West, and one of the Elements of Harmony bearers (who was known to have hurt herself seriously over obscure points of honor in the past) was going out of easy reach and was very possibly in danger, which endangered all Equestria. (And made Granny and Big Mac and Apple Bloom all cry.)

      So basically, it's a conflict of honors, a story of the hierarchy of duties. And maybe there will be more to it than that.

      Also, Rarity was stuck with Pinkie, so Pinkie's comic relief rule prevented anybody from rescuing them from the push-car-thingy.

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    39. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 7:40 PM

      Oh, and Rainbow Dash is pretty nasal; so maybe it's a normal sort of Cloudsdale accent, and Derpy just speaks further along the accent's sound shift spectrum than most.

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    40. UnknownJanuary 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM

      My life... Is complete.

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    41. UnknownJanuary 21, 2012 at 8:01 PM

      Happy Derp-Day!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv8xnAfUYCI&feature=channel_video_title

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    42. PopcornJanuary 21, 2012 at 8:25 PM

      Best episode this season. Might be my new favorite episode.

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    43. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 8:52 PM

      Wow, Season 2's really starting to hit its stride. Have to admit I was worried that it was never going to entirely pick up that Season 1 magic, but... I mean, jeez, Derpy, Pinkie, everything. :D

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    44. RailRideJanuary 21, 2012 at 9:03 PM

      I see 'Operation Lifesaver' is going to have to have a talk with AJ.

      And for the "My Little Bloopers: Mistakes are Forever" crowd, about 7:10 in, as TS and RBD are hanging out the train windows watching the approach to Canterlot, the locomotive's wheels can be seen rotating backwards

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    45. CybeargJanuary 21, 2012 at 9:16 PM

      @Sssonic
      Hm, possible. Still, I think that there may be a little more going on for AJ than people are considering.

      People say that Applebuck Season, Look Before You Sleep, and now The Last Roundup all have AJ learning the exact same lesson, but I think that there is enough of a difference between these lessons to make it perfectly understandable that she would trip up on different aspects of them. Consider:

      1. Applebuck Season - Applejack refuses help out of pride because she insists that she does not need help and can do it on her own. The character growth comes in her realizing that she can't do everything on her own and she sometimes needs to set aside that pride and allow herself to rely on others.

      2. Look Before You Sleep - The trouble here is between two diametrically-opposed ponies: AJ is good at jumping at a task and getting it done, while Rarity is more detail-oriented. AJ learns that she needs to slow down from her hasty bullheaded manner of tackling problems and consider that sometimes a moment's consideration and planning can save a lot of hard work in fixing a hasty action. This one really had nothing significant to do with pride.

      3. The Last Roundup - In this one, AJ has a great burden put on her shoulders to help those she loves, but she fails herself, her friends, and her family. To make up for her loss, she determines to do extra work (at the cherry farm) to make up the money she promised she would return with. I don't see this so much as an episode of pride, but more an episode of shame. She's not too proud to return; she's ashamed to return. I would say that there's a significant difference there. She was determined to keep her promise and was too ashamed to return home empty-handed (in her opinion).

      So, to contrast the differences again:

      1. AJ learns to let go of her stubborn pride when she is in over her head.

      2. AJ learns to consider other ways of looking at problems that may require her to step back and think before acting.

      3. AJ learns to not be so ashamed of her failure that she cannot face her loved ones; she will be forgiven for her shortcomings because everyone has them.

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    46. CybeargJanuary 21, 2012 at 9:16 PM

      @Cybearg
      Continuing...

      I would suggest that there is actually a character arc here.

      In 1, AJ is used to depending on herself alone, and she feels she can do anything. Her failure puts no one at a loss except herself with the loss of her pride.

      In 2, AJ has learned that she can rely on others. She's willing to let Rarity help her with a task, but she doesn't see the value of Rarity's alternate means of doing things (and, at the beginning, rightly so). By the end, she knows she can rely on others AND that other peoples' ways of doing things are valid, even if they aren't the same as her own.

      3 doesn't throw these things away. Instead, AJ is going above and beyond, performing a self-sacrifice, in order to do what she promised. The way she sees it, if she fails at bringing home the money she promised, she will have let down her loved ones. This is much different than the merely pride-based lesson learned in #1. In a lot of ways, her actions are very admirable, here. Her wish to not tell her friends about her failure out of shame is really her only true failing here, and it's an understandable one that many people in real life may well never grow past. She's stubborn, but that's not likely something she'll ever grow out of. The key here is that it's her shame of letting down her loved ones (and herself) that's in the spot light; not her pride of proving that she can do what she said she would. Even if she got the money and returned to Ponyville (if her friends hadn't gone after her), I doubt that she would have felt proud about it: only relieved that she fulfilled her promise.

      To summarize, I think that there's a lot more going on than people are giving AJ credit for; the differences are just so subtle (in a good way) that it's hard to see them unless you think hard about what's all going on. I think that's a sign of brilliant writing and excellent character growth, not a lack thereof.

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    47. UnknownJanuary 21, 2012 at 9:18 PM

      Who else wants an episode about Rarity and Pinkie's adventures on the waay home and then Rarity's glorious revenge?

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    48. CybeargJanuary 21, 2012 at 9:18 PM

      @RailRide
      Also, watch Mayor Mare's left eyelashes. At one point, her left eyelashes are short and clipped as compared to her right. I think that the edges of the eyelashes are being covered up by the sprite of her left ear.

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    49. CybeargJanuary 21, 2012 at 9:30 PM

      @Kaijyuu
      I'm glad to hear someone else doesn't think that AJ was out of character in this one.

      Could you go into more detail as to WHY you feel this episode shows AJ at her best and NOT AJ out of character?

      I think that people are too quick to associate desperate actions with out of character actions. Most people didn't call Twilight's actions in Lesson Zero OOC. Most praised it and found it awesome, and that was FAR more wild than AJ determining to work hard on her own to earn the money she promised before returning home to face those she promised to win the prize money for.

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    50. CybeargJanuary 21, 2012 at 9:42 PM

      @Quilton
      I disagree with this. Not that AJ can't be competitive, proud, and stubborn, but to suggest that AJ was being disloyal. It was precisely the opposite: she sacrificed herself to fulfill her obligation to bring back the money the town needed and expected her to bring.

      Her "wanting a change of scenery" and such things were just an excuse. AJ admits that she did it because she was ashamed of losing the prize money and she joined the Cherry Farm to make up enough money to give Ponyville what she promised. It was entirely an act of loyalty.

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    51. CybeargJanuary 21, 2012 at 9:47 PM

      @megantron
      I agree with everything you said.

      True Applejack fans, unite!
      /)brohoof(\

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    52. CybeargJanuary 21, 2012 at 9:55 PM

      @N.1.S.
      Derpy acted entirely consistent to her canon personality in the show thus far. She's always been a klutz and there has been NOTHING, whatsoever, so even faintly suggest that they intended to portray her as a down-trodden genius.

      So I really don't know why you're complaining.

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    53. ToonicornJanuary 21, 2012 at 9:58 PM

      @Sjosten

      Me! Me! :) Great idea!

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    54. NinjaBabyBrony72January 21, 2012 at 10:06 PM

      DERPY FTW

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    55. ToonicornJanuary 21, 2012 at 10:19 PM

      I love Applejack - I love her design (what a cute blonde Palomino - and with freckles!), I love her voice, I love her warmth and hardheadedness and determination. This was a great ep for her. When she was finally found out and said "Well, now you know" in that broken voice, it really moved me. This series is blessed with such great voice actors. All of them give us such wonderful performances every episode. Ashliegh Ball was particularly epic in this one. Bravo, Texas-pony-voice-lady, bravo!

      Now again with Derpy - I used to wonder why such a fuss was made over her. I guess it's a fanon thing. Nonetheless, it's really really cool that, thanks to the fandom, she's now a full-fledged character at last. However, it's to the MLP crew's credit that her debut was as stunning as it was. What a lovable pony! Her clumsiness, her apologetic awareness of the damage she does, (a quality I wish Pinkie shared), and such an adorable voice...fillies and gentlecolts, I think a classic character was born this morning. You guys deserve a lot of credit for that, but again, the MLP crew deserves kudos for, at the very least, making a skeptic like me fall in love with a little wall-eyed accident-prone pony (my fave Derpy scene is when she's cheering Applejack and tumbles backwards into the hole, whereupon Rainbow rolls her eyes in exasperation). I would love to see more Derpy in future eps. She's amazing. And if she does return, I hope she's paired with Rainbow again. Maybe they're related? I hope so. What a funny thorn in Rainbow's side Derpy could prove to be!

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    56. Nova25January 21, 2012 at 10:19 PM

      @Smokey Treble
      I'm pretty sure it was said, in one of the ''Bronycon's videos'', that they intended to balance the male/female ratio a bit more.

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    57. Nova25January 21, 2012 at 10:21 PM

      @getoman10
      Huh... Who are you talking about ? Derpy/Ditzy ? ...she always has been a 'female pegasus'.

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    58. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 10:22 PM

      Interesting sidenote, though I'm pretty sure it didn't come into Amy K's reckoning:

      Apple and cherry trees are both two of the many trees which are dangerous to keep in a horse's pasture. Apple and cherry stems, bark, and leaves aren't good for them, though apples and cherries themselves are okay. (Though there's also the danger that horses will eat too many fruits and hurt their digestion or founder themselves.)(And yes, many horses love to eat tree bark, but a lot of orchard trees contain natural cyanide to discourage their bark being eaten.)

      Symptoms of horse cyanide poisoning: mucous membranes turn a brick-red color; pupils dilate; difficulty breathing and panting,
      leading to shock.

      So orchard-owning horses may indeed be a special breed, used to guarding their foals from danger and resisting the temptation to nibble.

      Other dangerous trees:
      Boxwood, Buckeye, Butternuts, Black cherry, Red chokecherry, Horse chestnuts, Kentucky coffee tree, Mountain laurel, Black locust, Oak -- white, red, and black, Oleander (that's straight up poisonous to man and beast), Peach,
      Pin cherry shrubs, Privet, Red maple, Walnut, and ornamental yews.

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    59. Not LennyJanuary 21, 2012 at 10:22 PM

      Y u make derpy talk?

      Not sure how I feel about this...

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    60. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 10:25 PM

      Where was Derpy in this episode?

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    61. Nova25January 21, 2012 at 10:27 PM

      @Cybearg
      Huh... were you living under a rock or ?

      There are TENS of stories portraying Derpy/Ditzy has a competent (and gentle) mailmare of normal/average intelligence. (and a good few where she's rather clever... especially those with Doctor Whooves)

      Clumsy, a bit yes... but NOT stupid by ANY standards.

      Also : *Boot to the Head*

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    62. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 10:47 PM

      So happy to see an Applejack episode, and I really enjoyed it! Don't care that everyone is talking about Derpy. Applejack will always be number one in my book.

      Loved Pinkie Pie in this episode too. Very funny, as it should be ^^

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    63. Alicentaur BronyJanuary 21, 2012 at 11:08 PM

      @Nekozuki85Happy Birthday. So, did you break the 4th wall in reverse, become a pony, and become a mail pony so that you could meet the ponies? If so, good choice and good job.

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    64. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 11:08 PM

      I absolutely ADORED this episode for Applejack's realistic problem, genuinely troubled emotions, and the way she expressed herself. I also loved Pinkie's dialogue and scenes. This whole episode's story was absolutely wonderful, rivals Lesson Zero for me for favorite episode.

      But there was one detail, and at the very end too, that is just driving me nuts... WHY IN EQUESTRIA did they all just leave Pinkie and Rarity behind at the end, forcing them to come back on their own??? That's very out of character for them to just leave behind their friends like that with NO given explanation as to why, especially with RD being one of them that left them there, the element of loyalty!? That just... makes NO sense. Did the writers just forget to address that? I heard Rarity say she was going to have a word with Rainbow or something like that, but that's barely an explanation. Seriously, what's going on? I thought the writers kept their consistency... :(

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    65. Alicentaur BronyJanuary 21, 2012 at 11:09 PM

      Derpy may still be a mailmare, it's just that there are more mailponies than just her.

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    66. AnonymousJanuary 21, 2012 at 11:09 PM

      Oh, and I was incredibly happy when Derpy appeared and got her own scene. It made my day. ^w^ Adorably clumsy Derpy is the best Derpy.

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    67. BunnyJanuary 21, 2012 at 11:24 PM

      OMG so much cuteness in this. First Apple Jacks modest blush face just made me grin and the fact that Derpy spoke and had a part was just awesome. I hope we see more of her.

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    68. FluttershyWorshipperJanuary 21, 2012 at 11:28 PM

      @warhunter

      i think they are setting up MacBon for Valentines day

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    69. ModeabelJanuary 21, 2012 at 11:44 PM

      DERPY SPOKE!!!!!!!!!!

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    70. HunterJanuary 21, 2012 at 11:56 PM

      I had an unfavorable opinion of this episode when I first watched it, but I read many positive reviews here, so I decided to watch it again. I thought the story itself was pretty good, and worked well (especially more so than the last one), but the characters' behavior didn't appeal to me as much. It feels like they're being a lot more heavy-handed than before, such as when Pinkie startles Fluttershy. It just seems as though all the characters are becoming more shallow, I suppose - Pinkie's "discussions" are a prime example of this.

      On Derpy - I really wish they hadn't done this. Derpy was always a sort of private nod to the bronies, and she was always fit in unobtrusively. Now it seems as though they're trying too hard, going too far out of their way for our community. However, I am glad we are appreciated so much that we were given this, as a lot of fans obviously wanted it, so I'd like to think Hasbro for that.

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    71. AnonymousJanuary 22, 2012 at 12:05 AM

      Guys can anyone give link to english subs .srt file?

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    72. 182crazykingJanuary 22, 2012 at 12:07 AM

      AHHHH DERPY *squee*
      loved the episode BTW

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    73. Phantom240January 22, 2012 at 12:29 AM

      Holy shit Pinkie Pie at 16:07 "YOU BROKE A PINKIE PIE PROMISE!!"

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    74. N.1.S.January 22, 2012 at 12:35 AM

      @Cybearg

      The reason I got so bothered by the fact that they basically made her an idiot was because I read the story "My Sweetie" by Author: Big Mackintosh (a couple months ago I think). That story showed me how Derpy is meant to be at, least to me. Everything is explained in this story. Her genius is well hidden and only a few know about it while some seem to think she's just some brainless mailmare. All I'm doing is sticking to my opinion of who Derpy is.

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    75. Logan KnightJanuary 22, 2012 at 12:41 AM

      You know, all I can say is that I'm pissed that we finally get another Applejack episode, and an excellent one at that! (seriously, one of my favorites.) And yet all anyone can flocking talk about is DERPY! WHAT?!

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    76. voidchaliceJanuary 22, 2012 at 1:25 AM

      yay, Kumquat is a new word to me. i learned a new word...

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    77. LegatoSkyheartJanuary 22, 2012 at 1:28 AM

      I can't believe Derpy got a part (AND IS NAMED DERPY!)
      The Entire Episode was very well executed too!

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    78. SalculdJanuary 22, 2012 at 1:55 AM

      I've never used itunes, and I probably still won't, but I bought this episode on it anyway. It's the most direct way to support the show in its current form available, and if the blatant fanservice in this episode doesn't warrant that and exemplify both that they're paying attention and that they care, nothing ever will. It's only $3, and I've eaten and subsequently defecated less satisfying yet more expensive things than what this deserves.

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    79. GJAJanuary 22, 2012 at 2:36 AM

      Fantastic episode, up there with Lesson Zero as one of my favorites of season 2. It was great seeing drama amongst the Mane 6 again.

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    80. KaijyuuJanuary 22, 2012 at 2:45 AM

      @Cybearg
      "Could you go into more detail as to WHY you feel this episode shows AJ at her best and NOT AJ out of character?"

      Simple. AJ's big character flaw is fear of being seen as weak. This extends to and is apparent in every single conflict she's ever been a part of.

      - Not finishing the harvest? Weakness.
      - Getting cheated out of a game? Weakness.
      - Slowing down instead of charging forth? Shows a lack of confidence, also weakness.
      - Disappointing others? Damn straight that's weakness.


      This shows the best of AJ because it brings her biggest character flaw into full focus and gives the reason why she has it in the first place.

      Rainbow Dash gets her self esteem from winning. Twilight gets her self esteem from learning and being right. Pinkie from having fun and helping others have fun. Rarity from being accepted by those she looks up to. Fluttershy from helping out those she cares about.

      Applejack gets her self esteem from being useful. She feels the need to justify herself to her friends and family. Failure to do so means she'll slink back and do exactly what she did in Last Roundup. She cannot be weak else she'll feel worthless. That is the essence of AJ's character, at least on the flaws side.

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    81. AnonymousJanuary 22, 2012 at 4:14 AM

      @Demon Donkey Sisterhooves Social and Applebuck Season are the two best after me.

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    82. AnonymousJanuary 22, 2012 at 4:18 AM

      @Toonicorn Appljack is best pony ever.

      Loved that broken voice.

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    83. Blackegg13January 22, 2012 at 4:53 AM

      Best episode so far :) Not only Derpy is offcial canon now, but whole show was great and cheering. I'm staring to like AJ more and more.

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    84. Tears of a ValedictorianJanuary 22, 2012 at 5:42 AM

      I loved how the mane six bounced off each other this episode. Especially Rainbow! All the way through, Rainbow was amazing. Such a wonderful ending.

      RARITYCATCHME!

      I think Applejack was totally in character this episode. She's not a braggart like RD but she's still very proud, and also feels a desire to support other people and the community. So when she failed to win after promising she would, it shamed her because it meant that she hadn't been the best, and she'd be letting people down by coming back empty-handed.

      And she never lied about it, she just refused to talk about it whenever eanyone asked her.

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    85. NolimJanuary 22, 2012 at 5:48 AM

      Now to read TV Tropes "Ascended Meme" page.

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    86. AnonymousJanuary 22, 2012 at 5:52 AM

      My only real complaint for this episode was being a bit let down in my hopes of more Applejack. It would have been great to have seen the events unfold from her perspective, although rather a different story. The episode as it is was fun but I'd have appreciated seeing how everything had gone for her.

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    87. Luna-tic ScientistJanuary 22, 2012 at 5:56 AM

      Dear Princess Celestia.

      Today I learned that it is okay to abandon two of my best friends in the desert, even though neither of them have any survival training or equipment...

      Also exposure to Pinkie can be considered an act of torture.

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    88. SilfirJanuary 22, 2012 at 6:00 AM

      @N.1.S.

      I love the "Doctor Whooves and Assistant" Ditzy Doo, and the many different Derpys and Ditzys from a number of different fanfiction, and they can and will live on as alternate interpretations.

      But as far as "Derpy as she's meant to be" goes, you have to look at her in "Feeling Pinkie Keen" again. That's who she's been this entire time. I guess it was easier to ignore when she didn't speak.

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    89. SilfirJanuary 22, 2012 at 6:01 AM

      @Nova25

      ... He's talking about canon, you dolt.

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    90. AnonymousJanuary 22, 2012 at 6:55 AM

      Good episode. Glad to see Derpy incorporated into the show. Hated the way she got voiced.

      I completely cringed when she sounded quite literally like she had Downs Syndrome. For the love of god I hope Tabitha St. Germain and Jay Thiessen consider tweaking that (the written script wasn't really the problem). I respect the hell out of Ms. St. Germain's Rarity, but that take on Derpy was very hard to stomach.

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    91. CharginChuckJanuary 22, 2012 at 7:09 AM

      For everyone complaining about how Pinkie and Rarity were forgotten and left in the desert:

      http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny

      That is all.

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    92. RoxorJanuary 22, 2012 at 7:16 AM

      After my initial watching, I was going to write this off as another so-so episode, until I read the thoughtful analyses posted on the last page of the comments. Thank-you, good sirs/madams, you've salvaged the episode for me.

      On the negative side, however, is the fans, specifically those of that stupid grey pegasus. After nine-out-of-ten comments for FOUR BUCKING PAGES consisting of her name over and over, I never want to see her or her name again. Overexposure is a sure-fire way to kill off enthusiasm for something. I would have been happier if she'd just remained as an Easter Egg to watch out for.

      Laconic version: Decent episode improved by analysis from the fans who think and a previously-liked character ruined by the ones who don't.

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    93. KaijyuuJanuary 22, 2012 at 8:08 AM

      @CharginChuck
      The various rules don't work if you notice them.


      I found it reasonable enough that they were plain forgotten. No breaches of logic for the sake of a joke needed.

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    94. AnonymousJanuary 22, 2012 at 8:56 AM

      I liked that they did the letter as a voiceover, and cued to the joke with Pinkie Pie and Rarity still paddling through the desert as the episode end. The letters to Celestia, while a necessity for the show's format, often seemed shoe-horned in and break the flow of the show, so this was a nice change and I hope they do it this way more often. And ending the show with an unrelated scene _after_ the letter was also a good director choice in my opinion.

      Just thought I'd throw that out there.

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    95. zibbityJanuary 22, 2012 at 9:59 AM

      @Roxor
      So just skip over the pages that consist of nothing but Derpy and THEN read the comments. Problem solved, griping unnecessary.

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    96. Nova25January 22, 2012 at 10:08 AM

      @Silfir
      Before going all stupid, relax, ok ?

      There's was VIRTUALLY no real direct ''in-series'' information or anything like that about Derpy before today... except for her initial appearance in Ep1, the occasional '1-3sec. cameo' during some episodes, 1 theorical line about muffin, and 1 **accidently** dropped piano...

      Her PERSONALITY, and past/present/and future, her job, her family... all those were forged by the thousands of fans, and the tens of stories about her, not by direct information in the series, like for the Main Cast.

      So, in itself, the original statement of '@Cybearg' was incorrect.

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    97. EvinaJanuary 22, 2012 at 10:50 AM

      Probably the most disappointing episode so far. I sure hope the quality of the show doesn't keep going down becuase I thought I had finally found one of the greatest shows in the world.

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    98. CybeargJanuary 22, 2012 at 12:04 PM

      @Nova25
      I don't read much fanfic, but I'm aware of this. However, what the fans think and what the show thinks have always been mutually exclusive (with the exception of Derpy's name). I'm saying that there has never been anything IN THE SHOW (that is, canon) to suggest that Derpy was anything other than what she was in this episode: an innocent klutz.

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    99. CybeargJanuary 22, 2012 at 12:06 PM

      @N.1.S.
      Fair enough. But the fans wanted Derpy to have a voice, which meant that she had to have a personality, too. And the people who create MLP do NOT read fanfiction. Probably because they have a full-time job and lives aside from that and don't have the time to be flooded by the wishful fantasies of pony fans, but also due to copyright reasons.

      I really didn't want Derpy to ever have a voice--I preferred her as a background shout out to the fans and allowing the fans to make her whatever they prefer, because this is exactly what was going to happen.

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    100. CybeargJanuary 22, 2012 at 12:07 PM

      @Kaijyuu
      Neat character synopsis. I like it, even though I would describe it differently, but still. Yay, AJ!

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    101. CybeargJanuary 22, 2012 at 12:09 PM

      @Nova25
      I think you mean that my original statement was *correct*; that is, that Derpy's portrayal in this episode isn't at all a divergence for what little personality has been established by her in various glimpses and cameos thus far in the series.

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    102. blakestar15January 22, 2012 at 1:21 PM

      Ditzy Doo!! She Speaks /)^3^(\

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    103. SilfirJanuary 22, 2012 at 1:47 PM

      @Nova25

      He's still talking about canon, you dolt

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    104. FamusJamusJanuary 22, 2012 at 2:11 PM

      @suburbanbanshee I have a new head-canon.

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    105. Nova25January 22, 2012 at 3:26 PM

      @Silfir
      Yes, yes, troll and/or throw weird insults all you want... whatever.

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    106. ToonicornJanuary 22, 2012 at 3:46 PM

      @Inspira You said: "But there was one detail, and at the very end too, that is just driving me nuts... WHY IN EQUESTRIA did they all just leave Pinkie and Rarity behind at the end, forcing them to come back on their own??? That's very out of character for them to just leave behind their friends like that with NO given explanation as to why, especially with RD being one of them that left them there, the element of loyalty!? "

      Inspira, I completely agree. If the episode has a weakness, that was it. I understand why the writer did it, it's a classic gag and it was handled well, but...yeah, it just was too out-of-character, and I don't think characterization should EVER be sacrificed for a laugh. That occurs, unfortunately, on other cartoon shows; I hope such an occurrence never happens on MLP ever again. It's too good for that.

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    107. Nova25January 22, 2012 at 4:01 PM

      @Cybearg
      Derpy/Ditzy is a 99% pure-fandom creation... born for a tiny 2sec animation error, she grew AND THEN became the entity we call Derpy.

      THEY saw she was liked and popular, AND THEN started placing her randomly in some episodes (to please the fans), AND THEN put her in this one episode with a voice... and thus officialized ''a'' name for her.

      Initially, there was *nothing* planned for Derpy... it's ONLY after they saw how popular she was that they decided to insert her (like an easter egg for the fans) in some scenes... THEN they gave her a voice.
      They only gave her a voice... not a personality.
      Her personality (which evolved a lot with time, BECAUSE of stories, not the episodes(except a small bit with the piano, maybe)) is 100% fan-made AND origin from fans, not the show.

      SO! It is most likely that they based her voice and ''simili-personally'' based on the name they mostly heard (Derpy)... and not really based on the REAL Derpy (the original CREATION of the fandom).

      ...Of course, whatever the series says is 'law', BUT!... here, what they decided to give to that character that *we* essentially created isn't exactly what *we* would have gave her.

      I know, and we can all guess that this was simply to please the fans that they decided to expand Derpy's presence in the show, and this is a good thing in itself, but... considering HOW WELL *we* fleshed her personality and life... I say, I REALLY, really, reeeeally hope they took notes and will inspire themselves more of our ''version'' of Derpy... not just one that would be speaking weirdly and be all so very clumsy in an attempt to 'look funny', just because her name happens to be 'Derpy'.

      We made Derpy better than just a strange, clumsy mare... and I'm pretty sure most of us hope THEY will do more than that too.

      -Long comment is long, I know... but Derpy is a special case that deserve some good attention.

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    108. SilfirJanuary 22, 2012 at 5:15 PM

      That's her fanon personality. It's not canon. They don't know fanon since they don't read the fanfiction.

      Even if they knew the fanon, it shouldn't influence their decisions. If the actual writers of the actual FiM love Derpy and want to show her and use her in the story, that's what they're going to do. I've read and enjoyed most of the popular Derpy fanwork, and yet I recognize that is fanwork and nothing more.

      See, that's the fundamental disagreement that will inevitably cause disagreement. You think it is possible for fanon to supercede canon, by claiming Derpy as a "special case". I think special cases plain do not exist.

      We do not own Derpy, and we did not create Derpy. Neither did any fan writer or artist establish any kind of binding precedent for what Derpy should be. The creative team of Friendship is Magic owns and creates Derpy, with passion, hard work and love. And that means they get to create their own version of Derpy. So she's cartoonishly clumsy. And I guess you can dislike her for it (you're a monster, by the way, she's adorable) and prefer other, fanwork versions of her. That's fine. But you don't get to dictate to the creative team that their Derpy is the "wrong" Derpy. That's the misplaced sense of entitlement that's found in so many fandoms that can end up making them plain unbearable to be a part of. I don't have any respect for that position.



      The reason I've been calling you a dolt though is that you made the impression you can't read.

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    109. Night LightJanuary 22, 2012 at 5:37 PM

      I was weak when Pinkie Pie tried to eat all those cherries

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    110. Mr_ChaosJanuary 22, 2012 at 5:46 PM

      If I think about it, this episode wasn't positive at all.
      Applejack was acting like a selfish brat in this episode, in my opinion.
      Sure, she "wanted to make overtime" in a different farm to get the money she didn't win (obviously leaving her family and friends in concern and distress, but whatever), but even when FACED with her worried friends trying to get her back, trying to find out what she's so upset about, she doesn't tell them and treats them miserably out of sheer pride?
      Furthermore, she lied them straight in their faces - and don't give me the lawyer-like definition of smallprint-ish "I'll tell you at breakfast but I won't go there *derp*" "promise" she gave to Pinkie. I mean, serioulsy.
      Element of Honesty, what the hay.

      Furthermore - Rainbow Dash leaving two of her friends, possibly hurt, alone, stranded in the desert, not even RETRIEVING them when they finally caught up to Applejack? For a simple joke?
      Element of LOYALTY, anyone?
      This episode just isn't right. Derpy speaking or not.
      Plus the forced, over-sappy ending. I really like MPL:FIM, but that was just too simple.

      Gosh, SherclopPonies were definively right, AJ should be Loyalty, and RD Honesty. This would fit their characters much, MUCH better.

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    111. ChimiCherriCherriChongaJanuary 22, 2012 at 6:20 PM

      Finally! Derpy gets a full part (:
      I'm so happy AJ was the main one in this episode too ^_^

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    112. Nova25January 22, 2012 at 6:35 PM

      @Silfir
      Well, points for misinterpreting half of what I said... (sigh)


      >And I guess you can dislike her for it (you're a monster, by the way
      -Re-read 1M times what I said, if you want, I NEVER said anything like that.

      >and we did not create Derpy.
      -*headdesk*
      ...They made the initial body, in Ep1.
      ...We THEN made a personality for her, through all these months, and gave her a name.
      ...THEN they sealed that name we thought for her, 'Derpy'.

      Oh, of course they ''own'' her, the MLP:FiM character, I never said otherwise...
      But, while they created her 'body', and confirmed the 'name' we gave her... we can only hope that, like for her name, they will also *confirm* the personality we gave her...
      Only hope.

      ...Anyway... I'm just too tired now...
      (Also, stop saying ''dolt'', you look like a severly broken record like that...)

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    113. ArothyssJanuary 22, 2012 at 8:54 PM

      So... does this make AppleDash canon?

      I couldn't quite tell... it seemed to be implied in the subplot, but...

      ...Oh well, probably better not to know!

      But poor Rarity! She's stuck in a living hell!

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    114. KaijyuuJanuary 22, 2012 at 8:57 PM

      @Arothyss
      "So... does this make AppleDash canon?"

      Really, it's no worse than the end of Fall Weather Friends.

      Sure I'm betting a lot of shippers are squeeing, but I didn't interpret it that way. I'm more of a pinkie dash shipper myself, anyway.

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    115. RoxorJanuary 22, 2012 at 9:02 PM

      @zibbity Yeah, little problem there. In order to FIND the comments which aren't about that stupid meme, I still need to scroll through all of them. No way around that.

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    116. ArothyssJanuary 22, 2012 at 9:09 PM

      Dear Season 2 neighsayers: Where is your god now?

      If this is the level of epic in Season 2...

      ...then Season 3 will quite possibly make this the best animated show I've ever seen. And that's saying a lot, considering the number of epic shows I've watched!

      To the ENTIRE development team: my hat's off to you! Don't EVER lower the bar, guys! This show has reached the atmosphere of animation, now let's shoot it into the stratosphere and beyond!!!

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    117. ArothyssJanuary 22, 2012 at 9:11 PM

      @Kaijyuu
      Yeah, it really is all in the eyes of the beholder.

      I personally like straight shippings, so I just chalked it up to a great friendship moment between those two (they relate to each other sooo well!).

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    118. fluffsiesJanuary 22, 2012 at 9:36 PM

      Pandering went a bit too far in this episode. It's a very slippery slope with the rabid fanbase starts dictating characters in the show. Not that the episode wasn't good, I just hope that it doesn't go any further. The show was fantastic throughout season 1, and that's on the hard work of the Studio. Incorporating fan ideas is fine, but there's got to be a line somewhere otherwise the whole thing will just become a sort of please the fans joke reel without plot.

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    119. jodyjm13January 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

      @Arothyss
      Wait, what?

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    120. AsalisJanuary 22, 2012 at 11:17 PM

      *facepalms* They turned Derpy into an anime cliche... the one character whose so unlucky they're a hazard to everyone around them...

      For anyone that might know this they pretty much just made her Mihoshi from Tenchi Muyo.

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    123. ShippoyashaJanuary 23, 2012 at 3:34 AM

      "*facepalms* They turned Derpy into an anime cliche... the one character whose so unlucky they're a hazard to everyone around them..."

      You mean a CARTOON cliche. Cartoons did that decades before anime attempted it.

      That said, you can't pass judgment on her so quickly. Let's be reasonable: Derpy was there for ONE MINUTE. Give her time as a character to grow and be more of a character, even if she keeps messing things up.

      Besides, why should we judge klutzy characters? Most people know klutzy people in real life. We don't hate them for being that way.

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    124. Tudor PangalJanuary 23, 2012 at 5:16 AM

      I love Derpy's voice! They did a great job!

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    125. VreeJanuary 23, 2012 at 6:00 AM

      @Nova25

      Don't worry Nova...There are plenty who understand what you mean.

      Derpy's great and if she ends up as but a foil to Rainbow Dahs, I'll still squeal my head off. But the show I hope will realize that we didn't merely love her for being an idiot. We loved her because just as Twilight transcended being just "the nerd" and became a lead character who is applauded for her smartness and loved for her awkwardness, Derpy was also loved because of transcending stereotypes, accepted the way she is and even and appreciated for her playful sillyness. It's similar to loving a child - you do not just put up with what she does, that wouldn't be true love, but realize the irrevelance of focusing on the problems a child causes and appreciate their pure uninhibited creative playfulness.
      she became an entity of almost childlike freedom and playfulness

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    126. AkexJanuary 23, 2012 at 8:27 AM

      I cant wait to the new episode Super Speedy Apple Cider Squeezy 6000!!! :D

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    127. AnonymousJanuary 23, 2012 at 8:58 AM

      @Kaijyuu I love AppleDash and Applejack/Pinkie Pie.

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    128. MiColtJanuary 23, 2012 at 9:56 AM

      Well I haven't said much on the episodes in a while, which I'm really going to put more effort into correcting since there has been so much to say about this season so far, so here's my thoughts on this one.

      Starting with the big blonde mane/grey furred elephant in the room, the Derpy scene. I'm not as invested in this character as the others here seem to be, so while I could hear the collective squees as soon as I saw that scene, I wasn't one of them. BUT, don't let that lead you to believe I didn't enjoy that scene. I've liked the way they've used Ditzy/Derpy just for the more subtle things, and this scene with a speaking role was no different as we now have an accident-prone/clumsy character that can be utilized from here on out. I also didn't have any problem with the way Tabitha voiced her, the whole way she made it sound like Derpy wasn't paying nearly as much attention as she should be was very fitting IMO.

      The I Love Lucy scene was just as good as I was expecting it to be from the preview, which is to say, it was great.

      The chase scene had all of the great cartoon bits in place (barely outrunning the train, confrontations, etc), and the surprise "Rarity catch me!" moment was a nice addition as well.

      The facial expressions/animation, top notch as usual.

      Rainbow Dash was spot on as to how I like seeing her/believe she should be portrayed, unlike the excessive double dose we got of her being full of herself in the Best Pet Win and Mare Do Well episodes. She was impatient but focused, sarcastic but serious, stern but not arrogant, this was the Rainbow Dash we had been missing throughout much of this season.

      Pinkie, oh where to begin. This was definitely one of her top episodes year to date. RD referring to Pinkie's overly chatty self as the "Big guns" and then using this like Rarity did with the Diamond Dogs was just classic. But that wasn't nearly all of it! There was ultra-pissed broken promise Pinkie, playful/non-sequitur Pinkie (Rarity catch me!), and so much more. Awesome.

      Fluttershy was well in character all the way through. The chase scene had me wondering about her endurance for just a second, but that was squashed when it wrapped up and showed how completely and utterly exhausted she was.

      Not much to be said about Twilight/Rarity's role, they were great and totally believable as well.

      Seems we are seeing more of the political side of the Mayor too, such a focus on money. :)

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    129. MiColtJanuary 23, 2012 at 9:57 AM

      (Continued from above)

      Now Applejack on the other hand, I'm really not sure what they are trying to do with the character sometimes, being the element of honesty, they sure do have her telling half-truths and trying to get off on technicalities quite a lot, such as being honest only to a certain point of view, and lying isn't unheard of either from her. We've seen that there is more to her than just her element, it just doesn't seem like much is done with it a lot of times. It's one thing to deter a bit from a characteristic, but this one just seemed like they completely made the character forget about what defined her because of how upset she was over the rodeo results.

      I guess the only nitpicks I really had with this episode was that maybe the resolution to AJ's problem was a bit too sappy. Nothing to dwell on though, and RD did call the others out on it.

      Also, AJ's reasoning for not coming back did seem a bit far-fetched. It's not unheard of for someone to feel that they've disappointed their supporters and/or themselves (we've all felt like we've let others down at some point in our lives), but this felt more like something that would really bother RD moreso than AJ (at least on the part of disappointing themselves for RD, AJ wants to win, RD needs to win). I guess maybe if she didn't place in some of the events maybe this would nag me a bit less. I don't know.

      That being said, the sum of the parts of this episode minus the likely overanalyzed thoughts above on AJ still made this one heck of an enjoyable episode, still worthy of going into the top favorites. I found myself going back and rewatching many of the scenes over and over.

      Now will next week's episode be able to best it?

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    130. tacoJanuary 23, 2012 at 12:23 PM

      @MiColt
      I think that the reason she didn't want to come back was not because she didn't win but because she didn't have the prize money. Otherwise she would have not taken the job on the cherry orchard.

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    131. ShadorJanuary 23, 2012 at 5:15 PM

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    132. carsonJanuary 23, 2012 at 6:38 PM

      did i just here Derpy???
      OMG i did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    133. Pele2048January 23, 2012 at 8:26 PM

      Demonic Pinkie Pie is best Pinkie Pie.

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    134. WhiteagleJanuary 23, 2012 at 8:53 PM

      @Likonan
      Indeed, the slurring is the one thing about Derpy's voice that bugged me.

      ...Of course, my current theory is that she just had dental surgery.

      It explains EVERYTHING!

      @Don't Call Me Brony (Please)
      Or she actually is Dinky's biological sister, just from the future!

      It's how it works in my Doctor Whooves headcanon.

      @somewhereelsewhere
      Agreed.
      Honestly if Tabitha isn't able to differentiate enough of a "Derpy voice" with out that slurring, it'd probably be best to just leave Derpy silent from now on.

      @Cybearg
      Yeah, there isn't any denying they opened a big can of worms giving Derpy a voice, but she is the biggest Darkhorse next to Luna.

      Hell, even my own expectations are thrown for a loop, since I was attributing clumsiness to Derpy's Genius Ditz twin sister, Ditzy Doo, while making the mare herself a not-to-bright but hyper-competent mail pony.

      Anywho, back to the episode.
      I think Ponyville really should investigate whoever inspected/repaired the town hall after the parasprite invasion, because something tells me they didn't do a very good job.

      Also, it funny that AJ complains about not winning a blue ribbon when she clearly had a few large purple rosettes, which around here are usually something you win for reserve champion.
      Still not "first place", but it's normally way better then a plain old "blue" ribbon.

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    135. DestinyDawnJanuary 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM

      Whens the episode coming out to Australian's Itunes?????

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    136. ArothyssJanuary 23, 2012 at 11:45 PM

      @jodyjm13
      Is this a reaction to my numerous posts, or to the content in one of them?

      Explain, please.

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    137. AnonymousJanuary 24, 2012 at 1:25 AM

      When everyone is searching for AJ at the rodeo, the background music sounds like an homage to "Wipe Out!" by the Surfaris. Nicely done William Anderson.

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    138. MiColtJanuary 24, 2012 at 2:14 AM

      @taco

      That was part of the specifics, but that still falls under feeling like you are disappointing others in the big picture.

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    139. jodyjm13January 24, 2012 at 3:26 AM

      @Arothyss
      It was in response to asking if the episode made Appledash canon.

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    140. AnonymousJanuary 24, 2012 at 8:18 PM

      loved this episode!

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    141. Sgt ByrdJanuary 25, 2012 at 3:16 PM

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    142. Sgt ByrdJanuary 25, 2012 at 3:16 PM

      Hasbro already sent the SD stream to the moon, but somehow missed the HD stream. Not sure who Hasbro employs to do their DMCA abuse *, but they aren't very good at their job. If anypony needs to watch in SD because they are still on dialup (lulz), then just set the HD stream's quality to 360/480.

      * yeah I know it's legal but I think using a bad law is abuse based on principles

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    143. Fleetwood_BroughamJanuary 25, 2012 at 5:18 PM

      The way Derpy destroyed Town Hall worries me. How did they build that place, out of spit and kleenex?!

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    144. jodyjm13January 25, 2012 at 6:28 PM

      @Fleetwood_Brougham
      Balsa wood, courtesy the Flim Flam brothers.

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    145. The BuilderJanuary 26, 2012 at 3:28 PM

      The Day the Derp Stood Still.

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    146. derpshyJanuary 26, 2012 at 4:39 PM

      fuck yeh :3

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    147. derpshyJanuary 26, 2012 at 4:40 PM

      fuck yeh

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    148. Chris MckerracherJanuary 26, 2012 at 10:49 PM

      I am probably gonna be get blasted for this, but I think Derpy was trolling Dash. Both times Dash ahs been with her, or talked about her she (Dash) has been condescending towards her. Maybe Derpy's "clumsiness" is a way to get back at Dash

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    149. FamusJamusJanuary 27, 2012 at 5:52 AM

      @Chris Mckerracher I'll blast that theory because it's obvious Derpy was trolling the Mayor. :P

      The Mayor's love of money probably means she doesn't pay her volunteers enough, so Derpy destroyed the town hall. After all, if she doesn't get paid, then the Mayor shouldn't get to keep the money.

      And NOONE WILL EVER KNOW.

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    150. Chris MckerracherJanuary 27, 2012 at 10:04 AM

      @FamusJamus

      Perhaps she was trolling both?

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    151. CharginChuckJanuary 27, 2012 at 4:56 PM

      @Chris Mckerracher

      Maybe it was really Celestia in disguise, trolling everypony.

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    152. John KingJanuary 28, 2012 at 9:57 AM

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    153. D'KodaJanuary 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM

      Videos are down.

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    154. Sgt ByrdJanuary 28, 2012 at 4:54 PM

      @D'Koda

      New link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1kDYoJ9WxU&hd=1

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