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    Pinkie Pie and toddlers... this can only end well. I hope she knows not to give children too many sweets!


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    1. UnknownJanuary 14, 2012 at 4:41 PM

      @StrangeNoise

      "monthiversery" in fact, as I just saw appended to the article as we've gone onto the next page of comments. :-)

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    2. zibbityJanuary 14, 2012 at 4:45 PM

      Thoughts:

      1) This episode is an implicit public service announcement calling for better birth control. Kids can be obnoxious if you don't know how to control them properly.

      2) Either Scootaloo and Sweetie Belle are total fail at flying and magic, respectively, or the Cakes have some hyper-ultra-superequine recessive genes going right there. Pound has freakish wing strength, and Pumpkin can already move multiple objects, walk through walls, and even fly using self-levitation magic. Freakin' Twilight herself hasn't shown that she can do that, and she certainly couldn't do it at one month old.

      3) Mr. Cake looked unusually suspicious for a second when explaining why his kids are a pegasus and a unicorn. Hiding something there, Señor Cake? >_>

      4) Speaking of which kinds of ponies can produce what, it is now officially canon to have any pony pairing produce any kind of offspring. You don't even have to rationalize it - so long as it's theoretically possible that all three types are present somewhere waaaaaay back in the ancestral line, the outcome is valid. The writers just opened the floodgates on all kinds of fanon craziness.

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    3. yettiJanuary 14, 2012 at 4:45 PM

      That flying/magic thing was absolute nonsense. Magic supertalent Twilight had problems with turning a page and that little baby could levitate?? No sh*t.

      Explanation about pegasus and unicorn? Take some DNA tests :P

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    4. Sgt ByrdJanuary 14, 2012 at 4:49 PM

      @Kaijyuu

      Most cartoons aren't srs business shows.

      Let's stick to the cartoon in topic for now:

      MLP is aimed at kids first, most kids don't care about the show canon or about continuity. The main aim of the show is to entertain these viewers. Hence the regular breaking of our world's physical laws.

      The fact that MLP is a cartoon aimed at kids most definitely decides things about the show, and it decides that continuity and water tight plot/canon are not important.

      Most Trek fans just accept the problems with Trek canon. These issues make debates about Trek half pointless, as most arguments can't be decided with canon evidence.

      Galaxy Quest (I'm a fan of that too) is only 1 movie, keeping it consistent is easy as the same team worked on the entire project for its entirety. The other two examples I haven't heard of before. The smaller a canon is, the easier it is to keep consistency. So comparing MLP to Galaxy Quest isn't a strong comparison.

      Now The Simpsons is a valid comparison, and as you've noted things went exactly as I would predict. They have had so many years of the show, and they can't have all the same writers working on it all the time, hence continuity issues creep in. This is almost unavoidable when a canon lasts for a long time. The Simpsons is also a cartoon, hence comedy is the main objective. Hence certain rules from our universe can be ignored. The first of which is that the caucasian characters are yellow and they all have the wrong number of fingers. Comedy takes priority with most cartoons.

      Red Dwarf is my favourite show of all time, and it takes a humourous approach to the problem. Continuity and believability are stretched, but I don't care, because I don't want to see those things from the show, I want teh lulz.

      Good comedies don't have to be consistent, but there is nothing stopping them from being so, it's just more difficult as you need to keep a near constant creative team with a low turnover (something that isn't easy).

      Trek is a perfect example of a non comedy show experiencing the problems of creative turnover affecting continuity. It's just something we have to accept in fiction, otherwise we have to dislike a huge amount of fiction currently on offer.

      Sadly, Trek fans know about ignoring episodes too. VGR: Threshold is the black sheep of Trek.

      We should all remember that we fell in love with MLP despite it being aimed at kids, despite the fact that it's never likely to have a strong continuity. If they can break a little canon but get a lot of lulz, then they will. Even season 1 had lapsing continuity when episodes were written by different writers.

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    5. KristenJanuary 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM

      Wait.... So does this mean that Twilight can use her magic to fly? Or is it just because unicorn fillies have magical bursts of power that Pumpkin Cake cake can fly with magic?

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    6. UnknownJanuary 14, 2012 at 4:51 PM

      hmm. nurse redheart's cutie-mark is the same as the logo for their health service (not just on her hat, on the sign outside the hospital).

      Odd, if you're trying to make sense of the world... :-}

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    7. UnknownJanuary 14, 2012 at 4:54 PM

      @StrangeNoise

      Unless it's *her* hospital, I guess, which certainly elevates the status of nurses in their society.

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    8. UnknownJanuary 14, 2012 at 4:56 PM

      anyway of course, why did the cakes only ask the mane 6 about babysitting? (apart from plot convenience). I mean... cherilee? lyra & bonbon?

      Derpy?

      That could have been *astounding*.

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    9. AnonymousJanuary 14, 2012 at 5:05 PM

      @Sgt Byrd

      "Threshold"? Which ep was that?

      *googles*

      .....oh. That goddamn Warp 10 episode.

      Fuck Voyager.

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    10. Sgt ByrdJanuary 14, 2012 at 5:08 PM

      @mycutiemarkisagun

      I'm glad you remembered your Googlefu.

      I grew up on Voyager and loved it. But Threshold just needed to go, most fans just like to quietly pretend it never happened and move on.

      Voyager by my standards is actually not the best Trek. My fav is DS9, then TNG, then Voyager. It wasn't until years later that I watched DS9, though.

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    11. Strange0rangeJanuary 14, 2012 at 5:16 PM

      I think there's one very valid reason for why the Cake twins were able to do what they were able to do, at one month old...

      Pinkie Pie was babysitting.

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    12. T6J2E5January 14, 2012 at 5:19 PM

      Two things:
      1. That was some pretty advanced magic and flying for one month-olds... O_o;
      2. Linux users are still banned from purchasing the episodes. :(

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    13. AnonymousJanuary 14, 2012 at 5:25 PM

      @Kaijyuu

      sorry, gotta rip THIS to shreds:

      >Simpsons is an example of a comedy that fell from grace for me BECAUSE of the lack of internal consistency.

      Really. Is THAT what messed up the Simpsons? Really? Not paying enough detail to canon? Really? REALLY MY NIG? NOT THE LAME LAME WRITING OR PHIL HARTMAN DYING OR THE EXPONENTIALLY LAZY GUEST STAR EPISODES OR THE SAD ATTEMPTS TO COPY FAMILY GUY? IT WAS THE LACK OF "INTERNAL CONSISTENCY"? FOH!

      >On average, the first four seasons were gold, next 6 or so were good, and everything after that's been pretty mediocre.

      No. No no no. Season 1 is ASS. Almost as unwatchable as Season 1 of Trek TNG. Its not even recognizable AS The Simpsons. Mad Magazine nailed it when they said all the Season 1 tapes should be taken out of circulation and BURNED.

      After a decade of arguing about it, the fans have reached a general consensus that Simpsons "classic period" was Seasons 2 through 8. Then the classic Homer vs. NYC ep aired. Then Armand Tanzarian happened. And it was mostly downhill from there.

      >good comedies are internally consistent

      good comedies ARE FUNNY

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    14. JeremyJanuary 14, 2012 at 5:25 PM

      So much bitching about this episode. I thought it was great. And having babysat for infants, toddlers and small children before (thought not all at the same time) I can confirm that they can surprise you with their abilities. And they even threw in a Trainspotting reference for us. Seriously, some of you need to lighten up.

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    15. AnonymousJanuary 14, 2012 at 5:30 PM

      @Sgt Byrd

      >I grew up on Voyager and loved it

      Whoa.

      Can I have, like.....an autographed picture of you? So I can prove to other Trek fans that you actually exist? (no blurry photos plz!)

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    16. Sgt ByrdJanuary 14, 2012 at 5:37 PM

      @mycutiemarkisagun

      lol, I assure you I exist.

      I've gotta say, as I grew up, I realised more and more that Voyager wasn't as good as DS9/TNG. Not all of that was due to the drop in continuity.

      Also gotta remember that as a kid I wanted to rebel and be an individual and not agree with my family that TNG/DS9 were better.

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    17. pmcollectorboyJanuary 14, 2012 at 5:39 PM

      @zibbity
      If anypony should be the suspicious one, it'd probably be Mrs. Cake. She gave birth to the kids at the hospital, so if there's infidelity, the kids would have a different father.

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    18. DPV111January 14, 2012 at 5:42 PM

      @oneeyemug

      The problem did not solve itself after Pinkie broke down. What show were you watching?

      All that happened was the babies imitated what Pinkie had been doing when THEY had been crying. This cheered Pinkie up and let her get back to doing her job. She still had to wrangle the kids, put them to bed, clean the house...

      The only thing her break down solved was putting things into perspective for her.

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    19. pmcollectorboyJanuary 14, 2012 at 5:46 PM

      I liked Voyager.

      Now about Scott Bakula and Enterprise. . .

      Or even *throws hand grenade* Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda.

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    20. DPV111January 14, 2012 at 5:51 PM

      Also just want to chime in on the innuendo surrounding the races of the babies and Mr. Cake's "That makes sense, right?".

      It was a side joke from the writers to the audience. Nothing more.
      They wanted the babies to be a unicorn and pegasus for the ep and they pulled the ancestor card out of their ass as a hail mary to explain it.

      Mr. Cakes comment was a way fro the writers to say "Yeah we know it's a weak explanation but at least we're giving you an explanation at all."

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    21. DPV111January 14, 2012 at 5:52 PM

      @pmcollectorboy

      Earth: Final Conflict FTW

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    22. megantronJanuary 14, 2012 at 6:00 PM

      Aww, I loved this episode and totally feel Pinkie on this. Children love me because I love playing with them, and I'm often asked to babysit my various kid relatives. But while I'm really good with entertaining kids, I'm not so great about the actual responsibility ("What, you're hungry again? Didn't you just eat like 12 hours ago?") Looking after kids is exhausting; I don't know how parents do it!

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    23. AlondroJanuary 14, 2012 at 6:02 PM

      @Vera Given that any pony can produce any one of the three pony-type offspring, I'm guessing that after the historical events leading to the founding of Equestria, the 3 tribes of ponies decided to 'formalize' their alliance... in the old traditional manner. O____o

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    24. Sgt ByrdJanuary 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM

      I actually liked Enterprise, and liked Bakula from Quantum Leap.

      I still prefer DS9, though.

      I watched Andromeda for a while, then kinda just lost interest.

      Never liked Earth: Final Conflict much.

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    25. AlondroJanuary 14, 2012 at 6:08 PM

      @Jimperator *watches pervert otaku ponies levitating themselves to peer over the wall into the fillies' baths in an onsen!* THAT is why it's worse! *cliche manga reference, check!*

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    26. DPV111January 14, 2012 at 6:12 PM

      @Sgt Byrd

      Enterprise would have been good without the time travel
      Quantum Leap's ending basically destroyed my enjoyment of the show.

      DS9 was good because it was more a cohesive storyline than an adventure of the week.

      Andromeda's second season was OK.

      Earth Final Conflict was original enough to be good.

      Firefly and Farscape and Babylon 5 all did it better though.

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    27. megantronJanuary 14, 2012 at 6:14 PM

      I'm also hoping for another Twilight/Pinkie Pie episode in the future. I think their dynamic is pretty interesting...As seen in Feeling Pinkie Keen (and now in this ep), Twilight doesn't really take Pinkie all that seriously :\

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    28. T6J2E5January 14, 2012 at 6:15 PM

      @Alondro Any pony CAN produce any of the three pony types, but I think it's exceedingly rare for two Earth ponies to produce a Pegasus and a Unicorn twin-pair. Each of the Mane Six characters are the offspring of parents who were both the same type as they are. Well, except for Dashie. She was born of awesomeness and rainbows. XD

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    29. MangoPatchesJanuary 14, 2012 at 6:18 PM

      @X X X Waiting for a new episode killed me, But the wait was worth it.

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    30. Smokey TrebleJanuary 14, 2012 at 6:24 PM

      This episode reminds me of a Roger Rabbit and Baby Herman short with more plot and less slapstick.

      And there was a Trainspotting reference? How did I miss that?

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    31. DPV111January 14, 2012 at 6:35 PM

      @Smokey Treble
      Trainspotting, Alien, Shining, it's what you make of it.

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    32. AnonymousJanuary 14, 2012 at 6:47 PM

      just realized Pinkie mentioned an "old timey Western fort"

      Guess we know why we don't see more Buffalo running around. :(

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    33. Psyke PhaetonJanuary 14, 2012 at 6:51 PM

      Derpy at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXNt0Z5fQ1I&hd=1&t=484

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    34. Senior WafflesJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:17 PM

      As always, loved the facial expressions.
      Sucks that earth ponies and pegasi gotta use their mouths for changing diapers >_<
      This episode has only furthered my conviction that I NEVER want to have kids.
      Above all, I have to say this episode was actually sub par. Most of the episodes have plot lines that we're all familiar with, but they have their own pony twist. This one was just too generic (even the bouts where Carrot Cake starts using magic were generic).

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    35. LeanteJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:18 PM

      So, how about we all pretend this episode never happened. I see in a comments i'm not the only one thinking ST:V "Threshold"?

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    36. KrieveJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:22 PM

      Don't know why people are surprised a newborn can fly while Scootaloo can't. It really should depend on how fast the wings grow in proportion to their body mass or something right?

      Plus, Poundcake obviously has strength as a talent, didn't he break a faucet by accident?

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    37. Smokey TrebleJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:33 PM

      @DPV111Ohhhhhh. That scene.

      I didn't interpret that as a specific reference. At least on the first viewing.

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    38. oneeyemugJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:33 PM

      It seems that the biggest continuity problem could be solved by simply having the story NOT explain how the toddlers get out of the crib, similar to how the show rarely explains Pinkie Pie. This:
      1. Would be funnier IMO
      2. Protects the continuity of the series.
      3. Shows that the toddlers are learning from Pinkie Pie, potentially creating opportunities for hypocritical humor from her.
      What do you guys think, is this a good idea?

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    39. AlondroJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:36 PM

      @DPV111 The obligatory new baby episode. Quite frankly, I was expecting this to be as awful as every other 'new baby episode' I have EVER SEEN IN MY 35 YEARS OF LIFE!! If this were any other show but Pony, I would have instantly skipped it. However! This was actually amusing! Perhaps because I was expected ultimate epic awfulness the effect was muted, but there were some genuine funny moments and tidbits of fanon fodder.

      NEW CANON: Pony hospitals with maternity wards!

      Hopes dashed: Ponies do not reproduce via spores, cloning, binary fission, or budding. :C

      Funniest moment: Pinkie sliding up into frame with a clearly troll-face smile after the Cakes exhausted their other options in the Mane Cast.

      Bizarre Extrapolation #1: Pumpkin likes to try and eat strange things and she has extraordinary control over her magic considering the babies are only 2 days old. She will therefore become a mutant carnivore and devour other ponies to steal their magic and souls.

      Bizarre Extrapolation #2: Both babies exhibit unusually high mental functioning and power at a very young age. While we could otherwise assume Equestrian offsping undergo astoundingly rapid intellectual development, previous information indicates that this is not so, given that we have seen another baby which sat there like a mindless lump while hurdling down the hill in its carriage. We must therefore assume that these two mutant foals have ABSORBED THE POWERS OF DISCORD AND WILL BE INSTRUMENTAL IN HIS SECOND REVIVAL!!! D:

      And finally, I appear to be the only one who thought of the Bill Cosby stand-up comedy sketch "Natural Child Birth" as a prequel to this episode. I giggle like a madman as I think of Mrs. Cake screaming to Mr. Cake, "YOU SHUT UP!! YOUUUUU DID THIS TO ME!! I.... WANT... MORPHINE!!!" XD

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    40. Doc SteedlyJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:39 PM

      LoL I had peeps at working laughing so hard at this episode. MLP with baby cry sound attracts alot of attention apparently. LOL This was a super dooper mega awesomely fun episode. Those two little foals were the most adorable. Pinkie in a diaper is going to... *shudders* Hasbro what have you done >.<

      ALRIGHT! Was it me or were they close to referencing the shining there O.O hallway creepout scene. I was seriously surprised that kind of mood was thrown in. The guys were laughing ( prolly at me ) when the piggy song came on. But it was (ironically enough) alot of "oh my kid does that," "OHH I remember dealing with that," and just plain ol "dawws." All in all I think I created a few more fans of the show. And prolly some pickins that will go on me soon. ( oh well I turn it around and have fun. ) HAHA This episode was great. Unfortunately I wont purchase the itunes episodes. I have a full color monitor, so I am not settling for a muted color episode missing a bunch of details. I buy the toys and whatnot, so thats good enough fer me.

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    41. SilverLynxJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:40 PM

      Born in Cloudsdale (or another pegasus city in the clouds), trips off a cloud - dead pegasus baby.

      Or perhaps rudimentary flight skills until their body gets too heavy? Hmm? C'mon guys. While it's very silly that he should be so strong, his flying makes PLENTY of sense of being born of a race that likes to make their home in clouds!

      As for Pumpkin - random is random. You saw how fast Rarity freaked at the thought of dealing with a unicorn foal. She probably had to deal with SB doing random insane things while her trashy parents drank boxed wine on the porch.

      I really didn't see anything wrong with the "OP" foals. Other than the fact that Pinkie is amazing enough to get one month olds to not only stop crying ON COMMAND, but to get them to behave by yelling at them and crying. That's NOT what happens IRL. That and SOMEHOW she didn't get peed on by diaperless babies.

      Anyone else find that Pound Cake reminds them of Bambam?

      (Also, Trainspotting moment had me roaring with laughter!)

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    42. ChronopieJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:46 PM

      Pumpkin can walk through objects. The cakes are screwed.

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    43. ShiranaiJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:51 PM

      Hmn. This one isn't that hard to rectify.

      1. Foals in real life can stand within hours.

      2. Pound Cake is able to fly now because his body hasn't outgrown his wings. When he gets bigger he might not be able to do that as well until his wings grow. (Like others have said). Besides, he didn't really fly very far off the ground. I'm pretty sure when Scootaloo hovered above the tree she was actually further off of the ground.

      The only thing that is a bit weird is how he was able to stand upside down on the ceiling. But there isn't anything in the show that says pegasi can't do that, explicitly.

      3. Pumpkin Pie's magic was explained by Rarity and Twilight, plus there is a possibility her "raw" power is above average. At the same time, she wasn't hatching baby dragons or turning those around her into inanimate objects.

      The reason we never see Twilight phase through walls is because she doesn't have to. Why phase when she can teleport?

      So this plus obvious humor elements (especially since it involves Pinkie Pie)... I don't see the reason to freak out over this episode contradicting canon. It wasn't my favorite episode, but it is certainly much better than Mare Do Well in my mind. In fact, it makes Dinky being Derpy's daughter far more plausible than previously suggested.

      Plus, it actually allows Pinkie Pie an opportunity for character growth, despite all the wackiness.

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    44. ShinmizuJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:55 PM

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    45. ShinmizuJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:56 PM

      @zibbity
      Re: #4: We now have canon support for Derpy being Dinky's real mommy, yay!

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    46. AnonymousJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:57 PM

      Oh, what in the...
      ADVICE FOALS:
      >BE ONE MONTH OLD
      >TK, SELF-LEVIATAION, MAX FLIGHT STATS, FUCKING BREAK HARDENED STEEL.

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    47. WireJanuary 14, 2012 at 7:59 PM

      Pinky Pie is best pony!!!!!! I've always thought so, so it's great for me to get another PP ep. Plus, as a dad with my own 6 month old little filly, I really felt her pain. I am SO glad my kid doesn't fly or use magic!

      Though I did find the Trainspotting reference a bit disturbing. :P

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    48. IambergmanJanuary 14, 2012 at 8:07 PM

      I don't understand all of this complaining about the babies. THEY FORESHADOWED IT RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING! FOR BOTH OF THEM!

      Some people just seem to have selective hearing.

      It wasn't the best episode but it was great to see Pinkie Pie have some much needed character growth, that she can get things done and be serious when it calls for it. The references were also great.

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    49. MushroomManJanuary 14, 2012 at 8:09 PM

      Best part:
      Pinkie Pie: Where are y'all from?
      Pumpkin Cake: :O

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    50. pmcollectorboyJanuary 14, 2012 at 8:15 PM

      @Chronopie
      Pumpkin walks through the wall of Pinkie's bedroom and interrupts her breaking the fourth wall, causing a tear in the space time continuum.

      Pumpkin walks in on mom and dad's bedroom, possibly interrupting Mr. Cake frosting Mrs. Cake.

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    51. Chaosbo1January 14, 2012 at 8:33 PM

      So did any pony see Rarity's baby?

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    52. Nova25January 14, 2012 at 8:34 PM

      @mycutiemarkisagun
      I actually ALSO rather appreciated this series. Others too you know...

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    53. Nova25January 14, 2012 at 8:36 PM

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    54. Nova25January 14, 2012 at 8:41 PM

      @DPV111
      Weak explanation ? I wouldn't call ''genetics'' something weak ?

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    55. DPV111January 14, 2012 at 8:50 PM

      @Nova25

      No. Not Genetics.

      The "we have long lost relatives that are not earth ponies".

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    56. Chris MckerracherJanuary 14, 2012 at 8:52 PM

      My thoughts on the baby powers. As DPV11 stated, Carrot was not relying on her magic. She wanted her toys and her magic did the work for her. She wanted to get out, the magic did the work for her. As Rarity and Twilight said, unicorn babies are prone to magical spurts (IIRC)

      With Pound, I always figured that Pegasi ponies have some sort of latent Tactile Telekinesis. So when Pinkie was holding onto Pound he in effect was using his Tactile TK to lift her off the ground.

      With Pinkie crying, here is a theory. The babies first interaction with Pinkie is all fun and games. The babies see the parents as the rulers while Pinkie is the jester. So they wouldn't take her seriously when she is in charge. The moment she (Pinkie) starts crying, that is when they realize that things have changed up.

      Again this is my theory

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    57. AnonymousJanuary 14, 2012 at 9:02 PM

      And for that matter. What about Sweetie belle. I haven't seen her use magic either, but pumpkin cake used it to fly,levitate objects, and even to phase through objects.


      PS: Whats the name we are giving for the Nurse pony? And was it AJ/RD's voice actor?

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    58. WireJanuary 14, 2012 at 9:06 PM

      > 1. Foals in real life can stand within hours.

      Yep, I just chalk a lot of what happened to "ponies mature and have abilities faster than human babies".

      Also, pegasus powers are magical. Flight and standing on clouds. For a horse to really fly it would need MUCH bigger wings.

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    59. XurbanJanuary 14, 2012 at 9:21 PM

      Here's what I think about the whole "How can Pound fly better than Scootaloo at his age"/"How is Pumpkin doing such advanced magic" thing.
      Pound has a small body to match his wings. Scoot's wings are about the same size as his are, so they can't support her as well, which is why Pound can fly better than her. Pumpkin's magic is so awesome because, well, as stated in the beginning of the episode, "Baby unicorns get strange magic surges that come and go."

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    60. AnonymousJanuary 14, 2012 at 9:45 PM

      Well, I can't say that I much care about the piddly details of how "baby flight" works, or about screwy pony genetics, etc. After all, it is a cartoon (and we know what that means: http://youtu.be/h1nD4o3zTfo ).

      That being said, however, with the exception of the babies' awesome expressions of confused horror at Pinkie's piggy song and the creepy "Shining" scene, I didn't care for this episode at all. It was far more "toony" and "zany" than the rest of the entire series so far, seeming far more like a hackneyed Tom & Jerry short than a legitimate episode of MLP:FiM.

      I felt that the jokes were stale and cliched, the writing simply lazy, and worst of all...the narrative style was wildly different from what we've come to expect. Focusing on making Pinkie look like a zany idjit with a couple of infant Animaniac wannabes really just cheapened the experience.

      Compared to last week's episode, this one was a dud. It diverged too much from the show's typical style, and seemed shorter and more forgettable as a result. Hopefully, next week will bring things back to where they should be.

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    61. Lord SteakJanuary 14, 2012 at 9:51 PM

      Recessive genes can explain only so much. Guessing I wasn't the only one wondering where all Mrs. Cake was getting her...sugar.

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    62. Weim_TimeJanuary 14, 2012 at 10:02 PM

      I say we scratch the entire canonization of this episode...

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    63. AnonymousJanuary 14, 2012 at 10:04 PM

      @Weim_Time

      Hey, not a bad idea! Let's just consider this 'un a "one-shot." :P Just way too much stuff that's way too much of a stretch, even in the context of the show.

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    64. ToonicornJanuary 14, 2012 at 10:29 PM

      WOW!!!! I really really liked this episode! Which is kinda amazing, considering that Pinkie Pie is..well, not my favorite pony. She can be a bit much sometimes, and at OTHER times, she's just kind of a running gag rather than a character. But she was great in this episode! There was some real character development here, and I found myself sympathizing with her very much. Plus, this episode was very well-written; it had a logical progression, good build-ups to gags, and solid performances from the cast. Fluttershy's "Please don't be mad at me!" and Rarity's "Oh no no no no!!!...but thank you for thinking of me," were wonderful in-character bon mots. And there were artful little touches from the animators...my fave was when Pinkie was doing standup and extended the broom towards the babies, and one of them immediately tried to take it into his/her mouth. Cute!!!

      I'd have to say that "Baby Cakes" is my fourth-favorite episode so far this season, next to "Lesson Zero", "Secret of My Excess" and "Luna Eclipsed". In terms of overall script quality, storytelling and character portrayal, though, it's tops. It matches the best of season one, and considering how highly I regard that season, that's saying something. I think this episode indicates that the Lauren Faust-deprived crew of MLP has finally hit its stride, and I can't wait to see what they've cooked up next!

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    65. DestroyerJanuary 14, 2012 at 10:33 PM

      I thought I could handle all the cuteness but the last five minutes gave me a heart attack confound you ponies and you adorableness also the babies are still surprisingly alive

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    66. Flyinpenguin117January 14, 2012 at 10:47 PM

      Too cute. Needs more guns. Guns solve everything. YEAH GUNS!

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    67. A6PJanuary 14, 2012 at 10:51 PM

      Shitting is cannon before alcohol; I am disappoint.

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    68. MBAlphaJanuary 14, 2012 at 11:05 PM

      @A6P

      Wrong.

      Appletini.

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    69. milleniummaster18January 14, 2012 at 11:11 PM

      A "baby episode" has the stigma of "It's not going to be good" attached to it, since we know all the tricks from other series' "baby episodes".

      This one didn't disappoint in that aspect, as it managed to make the typical "mayhem babies" situation. It was, to say the least, disappointing.

      That's without saying how bad of an aesop it conveyed through it's resolution. Sure, it was funny to see the callback, yet it's still a bad closure.

      Pinkie "saved" the episode from being one of the worst of the season. This one, after putting some thought into it, is low-tier, perhaps middle-tier if you feel generous, and doesn't deserve the high standards it's getting.

      Some of you need to start being objective and look beyond the fact that there are baby ponies in the episode. Annoying babies in TV usually are the least liked... when they're human, I'm starting to believe that somehow the fact that they're ponies is affecting the judgement of a lot of people.

      Get your "Baby Lover" or "Pony Lover" goggles off and start doing some real critiquing!

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    70. Booger and DorkJanuary 14, 2012 at 11:18 PM

      I loooove dem bebes. They are so cyooooot. I am squeeing errywhere!

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    71. pmcollectorboyJanuary 14, 2012 at 11:28 PM

      @milleniummaster18
      Bah. I can critique with the best of them, and this episode passed my very simple "grin size" test where others did not. It even got me inventing types of squees I never even knew existed.

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    72. DPV111January 14, 2012 at 11:38 PM

      I'm just gonna leave this here.

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    73. TsarNickyJanuary 14, 2012 at 11:59 PM

      I'm going to be completely honest here... I never really liked Pinkie Pie until this episode. I think it'll take a lot for me to /really/ like her, but she's gone way up for me personally.

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    74. TheMagicalFishJanuary 15, 2012 at 12:19 AM

      Headcanon is that self-levitation is a shout out to Fallout: Equestria finishing. That makes sense, right?

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    75. Rusty StarJanuary 15, 2012 at 12:23 AM

      Conclusion #1: Fuck pony genetics. There are no pure races and traits jump generations at random.
      Conclusion #2: Baby ponies are spawns of evil. EVIL I SAY! But they are cute |3
      Theory #1: Pinkie Pie used to work at the Warner Bros. Studios. Unfortunately, Pinkamena Diane Pie was totally out of control, and sent the animators running to the hills. She ran amok throughout the studio, creating utter chaos. Finally, the pony was captured. Pinkie Pie's films, which made absolutely no sense, were locked away in a studio vault, never to be released. As for Pinkie Pie herself, who made even less sense, she was locked away in the studio water-tower, also never to be released. Publicly, the studio has disavowed any knowledge of Pinkie Pie's existence, to this very day, when Pinkie Pie escaped.

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    76. TheMagicalFishJanuary 15, 2012 at 12:25 AM

      Oh! Also, why think about why the episode wasn't as good? That just makes it less fun. The point is to have fun with it, not critique it IMO.

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    77. CephasRedJanuary 15, 2012 at 12:26 AM

      Loved it! Loved it all! The twins are freaking adorable!

      And Pinkie Pie crying was beyond surprising...even if I could already see it happening a mile away. 8(

      Aww Pinkie...

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    78. Wilson BennettJanuary 15, 2012 at 1:03 AM

      I was going to try reading everythign here, but I gave up on page 3, and because I'm tired so I'm just going to say what I think and leave it at that.

      I loved this episode, it doesn't beat out Sisterhooves Social or Look Before you Sleep in my mind but it's at best my third favorite episode in the series thus far.

      The pony genetics thing was, to me at least, a big relief that this series has torn away all notions of even subtle racial segregation, up until now only ponies of the same race were shown as couples but now we know anything is both possible and accepted in their world, after all no one even batted an eye at the Cakes being Earth Ponies with a Pegasus and a Unicorn for children; Applejack just wanted things explained because she prefers things that make sense in her world... OK she just wants there to be an explaination for things whether is makes sense or not (the zap apples don't make conventional sense but she knows the rules so she accepts them). But yeah this is good news that fan pairings can work, no word yet on the rules of sexuality but I jsut hope that the upcoming valentines day episode stays in the realm of friendshipping, I jsut hope the National Organization for Marriage doesn't try to enforce their ideals on this, that would be a nightmare.

      Pinkie gets some overdue character development here, learning to be responsible for kids and I agree with what someone said, I forget where I read it, that Pinkie is on track to be a good parent as long as she is willing to deal with the stress that responsibility merits, and it looks like she is.

      As for the overpowerful kids, well I agree with the general statements, the abilities are instincts that manifest while the kids are barely sentient for defense in the past and now is just treated as a "phase". Plus well, this world isn't normal and whe Pinkie is the center of attention all "normalcy" goes out the window, down the ditch, and far far beyond our ken so I jsut rolled with it, thought I briefly wondered if Pinkie maybe fell asleep at some point due to exhaustion but when that turned out not to be the case I jsut shrugged and accepted it, it's a show so I jsut relaxed.

      And with that I'm going to bed, I need to work in 7 hours.

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    79. That Which SpeaksJanuary 15, 2012 at 1:15 AM

      @Greenf0x
      Well, we've yet to see Twilight phase through solid objects, have we?

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    80. That Which SpeaksJanuary 15, 2012 at 1:20 AM

      This was a really fun episode. The staff involved must've had a field day with this one.
      I'll admit, I wouldn't mind seeing more of Pound and Pumpkin, but I doubt they'll be able to build more than one or two episodes around them.

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    81. ShippoyashaJanuary 15, 2012 at 1:31 AM

      Another amazing episode!

      I don't get the whole griping about the backstory and canon and the power levels thing.

      It's just like with Twilight, remember guys? She want total PHOENIX FORCE and TOTALLY LOST CONTROL in a much more epic scale than either of those babies COMBINED.

      And magic should be treated as something that can go out of control and be vastly different in power levels. It's like how some fictions like in Certain Railgun/Index and Zettai Karen Children handles it. Even X-Men and the like.

      Powers should never be something totally scientific and be age-related or something to that nature. It should have a certain element of open interpretation to it or that stuff like age isn't a sole deciding factor in it all.

      Let's all just relax and see for the fun episode it was.

      I think some people just go totally overboard with criticism upon criticism for the show. Some even going as far as accusing the writers for it. Let's really try not to go there. That kind of hyper critical nature is why stuff like Sonic fandom is such a toxic thing nowadays. We don't need to go that route.

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    82. Twifight SparkillJanuary 15, 2012 at 2:15 AM

      Carrot Cake flings dirty diapers into bin with his mouth - that's devoted, awright. If a bit gross. Way gross.

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    83. WiseDuckJanuary 15, 2012 at 3:18 AM

      My god you guys are really starting to sound like Trekkies. With this level of analyzing you'll most likely find errors in every episode and potentially ruin it for yourself.

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    84. AnonymousJanuary 15, 2012 at 4:40 AM

      Applejack could had helped with reading for the babies.

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    85. richfilesJanuary 15, 2012 at 4:41 AM

      @Saddlesoap

      Brazil... that movie was amazing! I never would have caught that. It had that familiar feel to it, but it's been years since I last saw it (my computer says the last time I watched Brazil was March 2006).

      What the hay... I'll probably give it a watch now. LOL!

      good ear on that one!

      I have to say, I LOVED this new episode! I also can totally buy the unicorn foal magic burst thing. Dragging Pinkie was weird, but hay, it's a cartoon, they can play it for laughs, and I am ok with this. I'm really happy with more or less everything that this episode introduced. Both my mother and I cringed at the diaper scenes... The disadvantage of using your mouth to do stuff was NOT lost on us.

      It officially SUCKS to not be a unicorn. It also begs the question we need no answer to... just how do ponies wipe? XD

      This episode had my smile muscles hurting by it's end. I've already watched it 5 times today! LOL!!!

      Time for bed now!

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    86. ShippoyashaJanuary 15, 2012 at 4:43 AM

      I agree WiseDuck.

      The fanbase should sometimes calm down and see that it's still a show that's supposed to be friendly for the kids FIRST. The bronies are not the central target for this. Besides, the continuity isn't broken in the level of Spongebob or 99% of cartoon shows that come out.

      Instead of being GRATEFUL that we're even getting ANY CONTINUITY AT ALL, people are now griping and attacking writers for it. Not cool.

      I'd seriously be incensed if in any future Brony-con, some fanatics start hurling insults at writers. I hope that never happens. But this whole hyper-critical thing needs to be toned down. Laugh it off and stop thinking we're entitled to rock solid world building and totally scientific levels of magical power. Even in 'serious' fiction, there's always some vague elements here and there and certain liberties for the sake of entertainment.

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    87. rmplstlskn101104ehJanuary 15, 2012 at 5:19 AM

      OMFG! so good!

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    88. richfilesJanuary 15, 2012 at 5:23 AM

      @Lord Steak LOL! Makes me wanna hear the Cakes sing "Sugar"

      ♫ My sugar is so refined... ♪

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    89. richfilesJanuary 15, 2012 at 5:45 AM

      @Weim_Time

      Weim_Time... More like WHINE_time

      Wah, I didn't like this episode, so we should just scratch it from canon???
      REALLY!!! Canon is canon.
      Deal with it -puts on shades-

      I don't see how this episode is unfathomable. It's been suggested that Earth and Pegasus ponies have latent magic that allows them to do tasks like manipulate weather, walk and even sleep on clouds, or make things grow. The sleeping on clouds bit is significant. It means that Pegasi can generate this effect without ANY conscious thought or intervention.

      There are basic instinctual characteristics that would require that type of magic to JUST WORK, without conscious thought directing it. Between a small body, and latent pegasus magic, I could totally see Pound Cake's abilities as reasonable. The Ceiling walking and flight are probably traits that exist only long enough for the foal to develop conscious fears of falling, wherein the self aware act of avoiding fearsome situations takes over and replaced much of the underlying instinctual effects.

      Same goes with the unicorn. Underlying instincts are probably more animalistic in drive, and are basic magical extensions of basic drives. As mental awareness replaces the haze of instinct and unawareness that exists in foalhood, access to these integral instinctual functions becomes separated from awareness. Twilight's magical outburst was NO DIFFERENT in it's nature, save for one little detail... SHE was OP. She transformed her parents into plants, levitated the horse manure out of the teachers, and sorta kinda forced a baby dragon to grow by several hundred years worth of progression... That's all...

      Pumpkin levitated some toys, popped a chain, phase walked, and levitated herself. 90% is basic levitation/telekinesis. The chain was pretty hardcore, but maybe foals have such latent ability as a natural defense against predators, till they are old enough to know how to avoid dangers. Sort of a throwback to migratory herd life of ancient ponies. (Hovering up to a tree branch or rocky outcrop and being able to walk under it is also a pretty good self defense mechanism for an ancient pegasus foal, living in the wild too, now that I think of it). Phase walking is out there, but considering that teleportation is pretty hardcore stuff by physics standards, phase walking seems to be the easier one. Displace matter linearly or completely transpose it between two disparate points in space. I imagine teleportation is a learned technique, while phase walking is more of one of those instinctual escape abilities that is a throw back to ancient ponies who might not have had the comfort of permanent settlements to protect them from the dangers of the world.

      My opinion... Pumpkin's magic outburst seemed fine to me. Same with Pound's flight.

      I fully accept this episode as canon...

      Some people just don't like kids, or foals, as it would seem.

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    90. FanloserJanuary 15, 2012 at 6:10 AM

      @Greenie-Pie Why would she need to? Teleporting and Telekinesis seem more practical and efficient than levitating.

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    91. FanloserJanuary 15, 2012 at 6:26 AM

      @Adrian Brony That or since she probably has never taken care of an infant before, it's likely she didn't know what she was truly doing or how to correctly take care of them. Adding the fact the Cake Twins are two different species, Pinkie Pie probably had no true idea of what they were capable of.

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    92. DPV111January 15, 2012 at 6:41 AM

      Unsubscribing to comments. Nothing new has been said in quite some time.

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    93. Hydra in a Top HatJanuary 15, 2012 at 7:20 AM

      So, I watched this episode... then had the weirdest image that Pumpkin grows up to be a Witch-type spellcaster. Think about it; the name works, and even if the spells cast were the result of infant magic surges, the cohesive power over it seems indicative of a massive passive talent.

      I'm more interested in what this implies about Twilight's abilities. Since phasing and self-levitation are both possible, it brings to question what other abilities Twilight may have but just doesn't use for whatever reason.

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    94. FanloserJanuary 15, 2012 at 7:52 AM

      @That Which Speaks Well, was there ever a situation in the series where she needed to?

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    95. FanloserJanuary 15, 2012 at 8:05 AM

      Okay, to everyone who keeps saying that, "not even Twilight could levitate," or, "Twilight has never levitated." She actually has, twice at the final battle with Discord. Once in the CENTER of the bubble shield SHE MADE, and again during the "TASTE THE RAINBOW MOTHERFUCKER!" finishing move, as shown in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knISEWKTLQY&feature=related Granted, it's not in the same exact way Pumpkin Cake did it, but Twilight did levitate herself under her own power.

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    96. Nova25January 15, 2012 at 9:11 AM

      @DPV111
      How do you ''subscribe'' to comment pages now ? ...the option at the end of the page isn't there anymore.

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    97. Rob CampanaJanuary 15, 2012 at 9:35 AM

      Reason why Sweetie Belle can't cast magic: she is a robot and she has not downloaded a magic program into her heart drive.

      Reason why Scootaloo can't fly: Fuck knows. Scootabuse?

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    98. AnonymousJanuary 15, 2012 at 11:04 AM

      @richfiles

      Well, if it helps someone's enjoyment of the show to remove an episode from their view of canon, what's the harm?

      Frankly, there's not a whole lot riding on anyone's view of canon. This is not a shared universe where diverse authors have to work consistently. Studio B and Hasbro can do as they darn well please. And some of the best fanfictions are blatantly noncanonical. Think about all the Luna stories disproved by "Luna Eclipsed", let alone stories like Fallout: Equestria.

      The only real canon concern is keeping enough situation and character consistency, so the show's drama can work. And I don't think anyone's complaining about something of that depth. This episode is not Mare-Do-Well.

      Rather, the episode grossly amplified the difficulties of baby-sitting for a laugh. What extent you're willing to accept that amplification, depends on how fun you find it. (Leaving aside the many who view canon resolution as an amusemsnt, that is.)

      My personal feeling is that while the shot with Pinkie and the plungers was worth a grin, and the flour scene was not a bad payoff, this was certainly not the best sequence in the episode. And if the writers were taking canon seriously, giving this much power to unicorns and implying Scootaloo is a relatively hopeless flyer, is not a good direction. But since it's pretty clear this was just a one-off gag ... it's just not a big deal.

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    99. Weim_TimeJanuary 15, 2012 at 2:07 PM

      this thread is by far the largest pertaining to a particular episode... am I right?

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    100. Sgt ByrdJanuary 15, 2012 at 2:24 PM

      @Weim_Time

      enope, previous eps have had more, see Lesson Zero for one example.

      If there's one thing we'll never run out of on the internet, it's opinions.

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    101. Weim_TimeJanuary 15, 2012 at 2:31 PM

      @richfiles

      What's with the sass and insults geez all I was doing was voicing my opinion and it wasn't offensive at all.

      Some people need to love and tolerate...

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    102. Weim_TimeJanuary 15, 2012 at 2:33 PM

      @Sgt Byrd

      dang i was way off... I guess all the controversy with this episode just made me assume

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    103. Sgt ByrdJanuary 15, 2012 at 2:44 PM

      @Weim_Time

      Mare do well have plenty of controversy. Lesson Zero was almost universally loved. Mare do well had people who were whining (ok maybe complaining, but they were doing a lot of it).

      I liked both mare do well and yesterday's episode. Some people are just harder to please than others.

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    104. Alvaro RequiemJanuary 15, 2012 at 3:39 PM

      I love this episode now xD

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    105. Weim_TimeJanuary 15, 2012 at 4:43 PM

      @Sgt Byrd

      yea your right, just goes to show how much I know about this fandom

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    106. SomeGuyJanuary 15, 2012 at 5:30 PM

      Great Episode. So much cuteness and Pinkie being Pinkie. As some one who has babysat babies I can tell you it is no fun. And Pony Genetics are weird.

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    107. willheimJanuary 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM

      i thought it was rocking.

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    108. AnonymousJanuary 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM

      @Shiranai

      I'm sorry, the contradictions in this episode really irked me this time round. I'm surprised that you are of the opinion that there aren't any contradictions at all!

      1: Yes, but the characters in the show have very human like traits. In fact, you can replace all of them with people, and it'll still sort of make sense. They are closer to being people than ponies. I would say that the babies should have a more human-like type of development.

      2: "Pound Cake is able to fly now because his body hasn't outgrown his wings"

      >>>He manages to break out of that box thing taped firmly to the ground(which happened to be many times his own size by the way).

      >>>He manages to lift off Pinkie Pie, a full grown pony, straight into the air, at a relatively high speed, and rams her into walls.

      All at the age of two DAYS.


      3: As for that master of magic, Pumpkin Pie:

      Rarity mentioned that baby unicorns get "strange magic surges that come and go". Not some controllable magic that can be warped at will into successful spells. (by the way, how did the filly know how to cast those spells anyway?)
      Not only does is she able to control her magic, it also turns out to be quite ridiculously powerful as well. She ripped out heavy metal chains and locks clean off that box in mere seconds. And she self levitated, which happens to be just one out of her arsenal of spells.


      Just a simple comparison of these two against Sweetie Belle and Scootaloo would demonstrate that really doesn't make sense.


      Now, I'm not trying to hate on this episode or stuff like that. Instead, i'm simply pointing out the parts that don't make sense. You've got to admit, there ARE massive contradictions right there. Sometimes it can be funny in a ridiculous sort of way.

      But not this time.

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    109. SilfirJanuary 16, 2012 at 12:35 AM

      ... There isn't even anything to contradict. As far as canon is concerned, pony infancy was a blank slate. Now it's established that the inherent magic within ponies can have pretty enormous effects in their infancy. That is pretty un-human-like, but then ponies also have cutie-marks, fly, use magic with their unicorn horns, are governed by two living goddesses that control celestial bodies... It's a fantasy series, and My Little Ponies are a fantastical species. They're remarkably human in the way their personalities and emotions work, but there's no guarantee that it goes much beyond that. And as has been pointed out, real life horses would be even faster to walk than one month (a few hours!), so ponies lying somewhere between humans and horses - a month, or a couple of weeks - seems like a perfectly workable compromise to me.

      Hell - humans are omnivores, ponies herbivores; humans have hands, ponies have more hooves. They're not bloody human, and they don't have to be.

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    110. ShadesofGrey18January 16, 2012 at 12:51 AM

      @Tomas Zelig

      Saving that comment For Great Justice. That right there is critical.

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    111. ShadesofGrey18January 16, 2012 at 1:13 AM

      @ShadesofGrey18

      And as for my opinion of the episode... Low-middle level, I'd say. Not the best episode I've ever seen, not the worst. (That one would probably be Mare-Do-Well. Nothing against those who liked it, I just really didn't.)

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    112. Solitary SpiritJanuary 16, 2012 at 3:05 AM

      Uh... did any of you guys saying that the foals are 2 days old even listen to Monthiversary? They are 1 month old, not 2 days.

      Whether or not this affects your view of the excessive strength/magic is irrelevant. Just please get your information right.

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    113. AnonymousJanuary 16, 2012 at 3:28 AM

      I felt bad about being negative on this episode but it was my honest assessment.

      Believe me I've been in the opposite position where I really loved a episode of a tv show went to the message boards and was absolutley floored by how everyone thought it sucked and pinpointing all these flaws I couldn't even comprehend.

      After a certain point I learned that if I felt really good about something DONT read about other people's thoughts on it, because odds are they will kill your buzz. Not saying everyone here should do that but just keep that in mind.

      I just watch the show for fun. I don't watch it for pony canon or pony genetics or more tidbits on how Equestria works. Because I believe there is no big picture, these writers are working their butts off to get a episode made that they have no time to consider the larger ramifications of the pony universe. Of course as a professional you have to make sure there aren't any glaring inconcistencies but that's it.

      As for the episode itself it was not great. Personally I just found the diapers with the dirty smell animated repulsive. I mean I've seen grosser stuff but it's just random things like that that bother me. (I also found that one scene where Fluttershy has birds in her hair with it shaped like a nest offputting too. I've never thought of Fluttershy as a unkempt hippie)

      I mean babies crying, all the times they tried to be cutsey wootsie, it all felt flat. Even being a so-called show for little girls MLPFIM managed to have a cool factor, this episode they dumped it seems to be like one of those lame family movies, where they pander to the lowest common denominator. Think those movies where they get a cheap laugh by having a food fight scene. The babies were cute, but in a manufactured way. MLPFIM was always sweet but it was never this kind of pandering sweetness, it was genuine until now.

      I would've prefered they had used Twilight for the role instead of Pinkie. Because the thing I hated the most (besides all the baby humor) was how they used Pinkie. I believe in characters being multi-dimensional but in this instance I wish they left Pinkie one dimensional. I did not like sweet Pinkie. Pinkie is best as the most immature one, when you have her as the responsible one it just makes her weird with no payoff unlike say Rainbow trying to be a egghead which would've been funny. The role reversal works for some but not others.

      Anyway back to Twilight, my idea was that Twilight babysits the Cakes w Spike's help, gets anal about doing everything by the book and even has some flashbacks to Twilight taking care of baby spike (Twilight as a mother character development). Now that would've been great, THAT is the kind of "DAAWWW" I want from this show.

      One final criticism is that I hate how this season there's very little interaction between the main ponies. In basketball terms it's when one person is dribbling while the other four just watch. Lesson Zero, Luna Eclipsed, May the Best Pet Win, Mysterious Mare Do Well, Sweet and Elite and this episode have had this problem. The eps are primarily focused on one character, the other ponies have screentime but don't really figure into the story.

      Compared to say S1 episodes like Green isn't your color, Feeling Pinkie Keen, Fall Weather Friends, Look before you sleep, and Griffon the Brush off where you spotlight two characters and highlight the dynamics of their relationship. Now this might still happen in S2 but dissapointed it hasn't happened yet.

      So in conclusion: This oatmeal is making me thirsty!!

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    114. JigglysaintJanuary 16, 2012 at 9:35 AM

      It looks like the episodes were just taken down by Hasbro.

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    115. Sgt ByrdJanuary 16, 2012 at 9:59 AM

      @Jigglysaint

      You are right.

      New link still up:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olJCcyHAO-g

      I'd just like some consistency from Hasbro on this whole takedown thing. They left S02E12 alone for ages, the EQD linked streams are down as of now, but were fine a couple days ago. But only 2 days after S02E13 airs, it gets sent to the moon.

      I was kinda hoping they were waiting for a week before getting out their moon cannon.

      It seems they have realised the obvious idea of just taking down the streams linked to by EQD. But they haven't (or perhaps don't want to) figured out how to search for the episodes on Youtube, because other streams are still up.

      I guess it now becomes a petty game of cat and mouse, where they send one stream to the moon, and somebody else uses a disposable account to make another.

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    116. Vimbert the UnimpressiveJanuary 16, 2012 at 11:51 AM

      So cute! I loved this ep. MOAR PINKIE

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    117. SilfirJanuary 16, 2012 at 11:56 AM

      Lauren Faust has commented on some of the questions some have wondered about; in particular Pumpkin's magic. She would probably want me to remind you that since she's no longer running the show, her view of things should not be considered canon.

      http://comments.deviantart.com/4/1603670/2368877900

      I wonder, when Lauren was still showrunner, did she answer questions on the show quite as freely as she does now? Not being involved in the making of season three and onwards does give her the freedom to follow and discuss the show like any fan would.

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    118. vvendy.January 16, 2012 at 12:11 PM

      Scootaloo is a bad flyer, as well as Fluttershy was. Maybe the baby is just as good as RD.

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    119. Ultra The HedgeToasterJanuary 16, 2012 at 12:27 PM

      ... both youtube episode-links have been pulled off with a copyright claim

      O_________________O;;;;;;

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    120. ReDashJanuary 16, 2012 at 1:01 PM

      Wow just wow. Hasbro can't let us have any fun eh?
      Both youtube vids are down in a few days. Ugh...
      Time to check dailymotion...

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    121. DPV111January 16, 2012 at 1:04 PM

      @Nova25

      Yes it is, the comment box and link to comments bringing you to the stroy page are back too.

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    122. Ultra The HedgeToasterJanuary 16, 2012 at 1:06 PM

      @Sgt ByrdShhhhh, don't give them any ideas! :-O

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    123. MangoPatchesJanuary 16, 2012 at 1:18 PM

      Right. My thoughts are:

      Hasbro was/is making this series for a younger age group, well for ALL age groups. So having some more "mature" humor, or plot behind their episodes of mlp would make it harder to please a good portion of their fanbase. Not saying episodes with gore, or sexuality. Just a HUGE more emotionally compelling, and "hardcore" show.

      If mlp fim were to go all out with their episodes, and make them an actual quest type story line like most anime's then a good percentage of Hasbro's fanbase will be lost.

      Over all this was a great new episode I'm thrilled with any Pinkie Pie episodes. Mlp is a great show and should never change from what we have watched in past episodes, THIS episode, and future episodes. Much love Hasbro you've done it again,<3

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    124. Jack KnoxJanuary 16, 2012 at 1:54 PM

      WTF.

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    125. MangoPatchesJanuary 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM

      was the "WTF." to me?

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    126. XyroTR1January 16, 2012 at 7:57 PM

      Yes, I'm aware the videos are down.

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    127. Pinkie Pie :3January 17, 2012 at 6:14 PM

      lol i thought pinkie pie was gonna mentally breakdown like she did in party of one! xD

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    128. UnknownJanuary 17, 2012 at 6:19 PM

      What channel do i subscribe to to get the episodes?

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    129. Ditzy_DooJanuary 17, 2012 at 6:52 PM

      wtb new links

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    130. voidchaliceJanuary 17, 2012 at 8:58 PM

      poor Pinkie, Steven Wright jokes don't work that way...

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    131. AnonymousJanuary 18, 2012 at 2:49 AM

      Ok after rewatching some clips it wasn't as bad as I remember it in the original viewing. But the babies crying, diaper changing scenes, plus the weird look of all baby ponies (as seen in Maredowell) were a all a big turnoff to me.

      But it had (just like all FIM episodes) enough details and visuals to keep it interesting.

      It's a credit to the writers and animators that even in a bad episode (IMO) there are enough things going on to keep it interesting.

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    132. thanosylarJanuary 18, 2012 at 5:58 AM

      I know this post will be probably lost in the pile of comments, but maybe it can help a few people - till the original post is updated, you can use this link to access the latest episodes

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=65bAbysZNaM

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    133. AnonymousJanuary 18, 2012 at 12:59 PM

      I cant view the 1080p :( It says the video is private =/

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    134. The Wandering MagusJanuary 18, 2012 at 5:14 PM

      @XyroTR1

      preview of what happens when SOPA and PIPA come around :/

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    135. NinjaBabyBrony72January 18, 2012 at 7:32 PM

      God i loved this weeks episode but I HOPE THEY HURRY UP AND MAKE A FLUTTERSHY EPISODE

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    136. AdolphusJanuary 19, 2012 at 11:36 AM

      This episode was totally hilarious!(and some creepy, in the "Transpoiting" reference scene), but i think, that we (in our fanaticism) are losing the point. THIS IS a CHILDREN CARTOON,and, by the adult references, we love it. Not wasn't in the beginning, thought an adult cartoon, or by audience like us. We are the unexpected viewers,in some measure, for Hasbro, or, Lauren Faust even. THEREFORE, we not demand more that ever, like some mature material, or some tough references. If this could be possible, maybe (or surely) MLP: FIM will lose a lot of magic, and will be a average cartoon. Finally, the transmission schedule (Saturday 10 a.m.) talk by self.

      Otherwise, i love Pinkie Pie! and that chapter was a total gift 4 pinkie pie fans!

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    137. Rainbow crashed?January 19, 2012 at 3:11 PM

      @Dͪ͊ͦḮ̘ͯS̔̐̓C̹̔Ò͓͙̫R̀͠͞D͙̫
      HOLY SHIT
      you Sir have the best name eeeeeeevvvvvvvvaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrr

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    138. ArothyssJanuary 20, 2012 at 6:54 PM

      Dear Princess Celestia,

      Today I've learned several things:

      1. Pinkie Pie has the ability to split herself into multiple personas
      2. You do NOT break promises to Angel Bunny
      3. Do not get hit by a Pound Cake Punch. Ever.
      4. Scootaloo either has a disability, or enters ninja mode when she actually flies
      5. Flour is magic
      6. The Cake twins are adorable
      7. Pinkie is best baby
      and 8. Luna is best pony.

      That is all.

      Your Darkest Nightmare,
      Arothyss

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    139. ArothyssJanuary 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM

      @Adolphus
      Grammar much?

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