We were all curious about it yesterday, and it looks like they have finally popped up. Hasbro has some "official" names for our favorite background ponies. Obviously due to legal reasons, they couldn't use the fanon ones.
Lyra is above, and Berry Punch/Blues/Carrot Top can be found after the break.
Note: For the sake of not driving fanfiction archives everywhere insane, please keep using the fanon names for those! Or at least include that your "Heartstrings" in the story should be filed under Lyra.
664 comments:
Well, I don't give a crap since they're all just background characters that didn't even have names until now. Fans took blank slates and inflated their importance. The only reason they're upset is that reality does not reflect their fantasy.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Heartstrings is an awesome name and Golden Harvest is equally lame as Carrot Top.
@PonyPonyPonyBrony
ReplyDeleteBlues Noteworthy
Yeah, I like that idea.
@Octavia
ReplyDeletePersonally, I think all this rage is bloody hilarious, especially when I'm all "eh, with the exception of Carrot Top, they're all fine."
Speaking of Carrot Top, yeah, I doubt they could've used THAT name in particular since I'm sure that'd cause legal issues with the comedian of the same name. Just sayin.
@metaXzero
ReplyDelete"Also, does Transformers also use cheap recolors? "
All the freaking time. The most famous recolors would be the Seakers. Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp are all the same mold, just different paint.
I gotta say, I hope the fandom just sticks to our names and ditchs out of the blind bag ones... they are kind of painful.
ReplyDeleteWHO ARE YOU IMPOSTERS!? Seriously though, I'll always know that awesome cyan colored pony as Lyra!
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ReplyDelete@metaXzero
ReplyDeleteI'm currently trying to negotiate with the wiki's creator to get the fanon names some mention in the articles. Hopefully I can convince him that this may help to quell the fanrage developing from this.
@ponydoraprancypants
ReplyDeletethis ^
can't wait for these now only problem is only store will have them in Australia
ReplyDelete@BlueJay Chill
ReplyDeleteTheoretically, yes, but the name was probably coined by multiple people around the same time. And since said coining would probably have come in the early days, when the fanbase was concentrated on /co/ and /b/, actually proving that they were the ones who came up with it would be a more Sisyphean task than the actual one given to Sisyphus.
As for the wiki...yeah, anypony wanna volunteer to start a new one? I'm up for it.
@mattwhite924
ReplyDeleteO 0O Oh. my. gosh.
Mind blown, evening made.
Thank you so much for sharing! :3
These ponies don't look like the ones in the cartoon, despite the cutie marks. So it's safe to separate the two.
ReplyDeleteI would love to set up a new wiki, but I doubt I would have any time to maintain it. I do have a couple ideas of how to organize it, though, like I've thought the ponies should be sorted into groups thusly:
ReplyDelete1. Mane Cast (Mane 6, CMC, Spike, and Celestia)
2. Supporting Cast (Big Mac, Zecora, etc.)
3. One-Time Appearances (Trixie, Gilda, etc.)
4. Background Ponies (Lyra, Derpy, etc.)
5. Recolor Ponies (Heartstrings, Blossomforth, etc.)
6. Original Concepts (Surprise, Firefly, etc.)
7. Story OCs (Nyx, Lilpip?, etc.)
8. Personal OCs (Madmax, Butterscotch Sundae, etc.)
That would actually solve this entire problem (Lyra is a background pony, Heartstrings is a recolor pony).
Okay guys, just saying, but the name Carrot Top will never be used as it's already in use.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrot_Top - That would cause legal issues. Not sure what's up with the other names, but honestly, this is making a big deal out of nothing IMO.
lyra heartstrings sounds pretty awesome, but heartstrings alone doesnt
ReplyDeleteBerryshine sounds nice to me. Think about it: Berryshine? Moonshine? We still have our drunk!
ReplyDeleteAs for the others, I think Lyra Heartstrings and Blues Noteworthy sound catchy as their full names. Not so sure about Carrot Top/Golden Harvest, though.
Not to be "that guy" but I think i prefer Blues' official name, "Noteworthy" kind of has a nice ring to it.
ReplyDeleteSeeing as the background ponies are essentially all just recolors of the same tiny handful of mane-shapes, Hasbro really should just create the three or four new molds needed, and not simply reuse the unique characters for every-damn-thing.
ReplyDelete@Pixel Coder
ReplyDeleteI might, for now, avoid characters that are totally original, or perhaps combine them into one group. The list of notable OCs can't really be that long; Nyx, the mane cast of FO:E, and maybe the ones of the most prominent fandom artists.
I've never done much more than some minor wiki editing and basic HTML tags, but I'd be willing to help maintain it. Given how most of us are probably strapped for time it would need a decent-sized admin crew, though.
Seriously Hasbro, it's not like we've copyrighted the fan names for background ponies...
ReplyDeleteWe won't sue you, but the collective fansquee will be heard in all fifty states.
Wow... I'm soooooo happy that the MLP wiki has helped you guys so much with information, and you just throw it back into our faces. Really makes me appreciate my work on it.
ReplyDeleteAlso:
http://mylittlebrony.wikia.com/wiki/MyLittleBrony_Wiki
http://mlpfanart.wikia.com/wiki/My_Little_Pony_Fan_Labor_Wiki
But seriously, good luck in whatever you do, and stop complaining about not getting the "fan" accepted names. As a famous man once said "CRY SOME MORE" - somewhere else.
@Pixel Coder
ReplyDeleteNO FAN FICS.
ESPECIALLY not Past Sins cause that thing carries shitstorms where ever
@Arothyssmaybe not Mississippi
ReplyDelete@marioandsonic My exact same feelings
ReplyDeleteI don't care what the cards say. Fanon names will be forever. I just really want this new set of Blind Bag figures. Hopefully the US will see them in stores. :)
ReplyDeleteSorry if this ends up repeating somepony else, but... Does anypony even realize why they did this? Thought not. It's to avoid copyright infringement possibilities. Even though we all say that we don't own MLP, since we DID come up with the fanon names, if they made them canon, we could, in theory, sue them for taking the names. So it's to prevent the Flank-holes in the Brony community, or outside, of trying to claim ownership of the names because of a fanfiction.
ReplyDelete~ Magical Trevor, Minstrel of Equestria
@Magical Trevor
ReplyDeleteDon't you bring your rational logic into this topic, this is a rage topic.
Joking aside and such, that seems reasonable.
I tend to go for completeness in most of what I do, hence why I included OCs, but I can see excluding them from a site focused on official stuff. Especially since there's already Bronies Wiki for that.
ReplyDeleteAfter a bit of a double take it all looks a bit ... lazy to me. Don't get me wrong I'm all about getting my hands on a big mac or lyre toy but All the models and pictures just look like recolored mix and match mane six.
ReplyDeleteTotally knew this was going to cause a shitstorm over on the MLP wiki, just like Vinyl Scratch/DJ PON3 did.
ReplyDeleteLyra Heartstrings.
ReplyDeleteOkay, I can rock that.
To quote spike
ReplyDeleteNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
None of these match up to the model, thus as far as I'm concerned they're different characters entirely.
ReplyDeleteLyra's a lighter color and has a different hairstyle. Berry Punch has different eye coloration and hairstyle, and is not a unicorn. Carrot Top's hairstyle and eye color are different, her mane is slightly off-color...
Point is it's not them.
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ReplyDelete@drakethedragon
ReplyDeleteI've been pleasantly surprised at how little teeth-gnashing there's been over this, actually (then again, after the very positive reaction Canon!Luna perhaps I shouldn't be). Most seem content to just amalgamate the "official" names with the fanon ones or just ignore them and go about their business.
These are better. EAT IT FANON
ReplyDeleteNoteworthy - not bad, I can get behind that. Heartstrings sounds cute but ehhh..
ReplyDeleteGolden Harvest - Ehhhhhhh...
I will forget I ever saw this now.
ReplyDelete@TheBlackBaron
ReplyDeleteim the opposite.
im very disappointed with how MUCH drama there is over this, it's something amazingly minor and the toys aren't even totally canon to the show.
Heartstrings and Berryshine are pretty good. I'll still call Carrot Top, Carrot Top though since it is what the animators call her anyway.
ReplyDelete@Mojo Exactly! They're toys people
ReplyDelete@TheBlackBaron
ReplyDeleteI don't know man, I'm going through both pages of this and some of the pages at the MLP wiki and I'm not seeing good things.
Well, I think we should appreciate that they're still trying to acknowledge the fan base by making the more popular background ponies first. Though, realistically, it would make more sense financially to reuse the molds of the M6, since I don't think that the characters are well-known by the younger audience who would buy the toys.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I think it'd be a good compromise for people to just use whatever name works for them. Last names, replace them, or just use the fan names. And who knows, they might change the name if the cast ever actually addresses them.
They changed Ditzy Doo to Derpy Hooves, and now she's a recurring joke character. Who knows?
Oh hey, fans are rather miffed when their ideas don't come to fruition completely. My opinion? Tough luck. (not to mention you do not have to use the names!)
ReplyDeleteThose reused arts of Twilight Sparkle, Big Macintosh, Rarity, and Pinkie Pie? Have you guys not ever seen the Blind Bag Ponies before? In case you haven't, along with TS, AJ, RD, RR, and PP, there were other ponies that used the same molds but are recolored. Why? Because making unique molds for each pony would be expensive to manufacture. Artwork, sans coloring, would have to stay the same because of this to avoid any confusion. And as people have stated before, Hasbro is first and foremost a business, and will do things to produce products without spending a fortune. I would rather spend $5 for each Blind Bag pony rather than $20. Oh yeah, and Fluttershy? She's a recolored Rainbow Dash! However, in this case, I don't see why pegasus ponies only get one mold whereas unicorn ponies and earth ponies get two each... (one more mold couldn't have been that much more expensive, right?)
As mentioned many times by those who are more involved with legal maters than I, Hasbro would rather not take the risk of using fan names due to the potential risk of being sued. What with "not asking for permission" and stuff. As far as I know, if they don't go to court with the case, Hasbro essentially forfeits any defense and must pay off the prosecutor. If they do go to court, the case would likely be thrown out by the silliness of it all (though not at all guaranteed), but will still have to pay off the court, and with multiple cases to contend with, those costs would quickly add up. It's a lose-lose situation.
I thought better of you, pony fans. The names Lyra, Berry Punch, Blues, and Carrot Top should have been placeholders for whenever Hasbro (or more preferably Studio B and/or their cohorts) decide to officially label our beloved characters that us fans essentially made. It's their franchise and property, and they can do whatever they want with it, like it or not.
Not to mention that, in my opinion, the fanon names aren't as creative as what Hasbro gave these ponies. Just hear me out: Studio B (& friends) and Hasbro have given names to the ponies that fit their personality, such as Twilight's ever-curious demeanor and Fluttershy's oh so bashful outlook on life. Only a handful of ponies were given names that also reflected from their Cutie Marks, like Luna and, less obviously so, Rainbow Dash.
You know what fans did for the some of the most popular background ponies? The polar opposite, with names primarily observed from their Cutie Marks rather than personality. Of course, fans had very little to work with aside from said Cutie Marks. Even with that said, kudos to whomever came up with DJ-Pon3! (or Vinyl Scratch!) Besides, since foals and colts aren't born with their Cutie Marks, it'd be pretty hard for parents to predict the marks and name their children after them!
Whomever made up the names and descriptions followed closer to the show's naming conventions than the fans did. Who would've thought, right?
HOWEVER, as we all know, the toys and the show hardly ever intertwine with each other. We've yet to see those incredibly pink vehicles that the toys have indicated, so does that mean we have to intertwine the two halves together? It looks like majority of the fans say no!
And you fans know what that means? Use whatever name you guys are more comfortable with! Nobody's forcing you, and Hasbro/Studio B certainly can't enforce it upon the fans. This whole argument on who's right or not is a silly matter!
Instead of arguing, fans should be thrilled that Hasbro has released toys that (loosely) represents the characters that fans have, more or less, created from scratch! Is it a sign that Hasbro is listening to our pleas for toys representative of FiM? If so, it's a step in the right direction, so please show them our support!
Really, it's silly how worked up some people get over fanon. The new names are awesome! And all the blind bag ponies are recolors, so what did you expect?
ReplyDeleteUmmm, I guess I'm just a noob, but where the hell do you buy these? I WANT!
ReplyDeleteI don't think I'm ever going to remember Carrot Top's new name.I keep forgetting it like every minute.Golden Harvest will probably never stick in my head.It's not that I don't like the name I just don't think it fits her that well.
ReplyDeleteGolden Harvests isn't as catchy as Carrot Top.
Berry Shine could be Berry Punch's relative or something because that's obviously not Berry Punch.Unless she suddenly turned into a unicorn.
Noteworthy alone it's kinda "eh" but it is a more creative name than Blues.Fancy too.But Blues Noteworthy I could totally work with that.
Lyra Heartstrings would be a goon name too,but that does not look like Lyra.They could have at least made a Rainbow Dash mold without the wings to get her.
Haha, these are like the Yellowquiet and Tree Kicker sort of names of the background ponies.
ReplyDeleteThis fandom is too ungrateful. Would you rather Hasbro not include BG ponies in their blind bags?
ReplyDelete@Vinnyboiler At this point, I think I would, actually.
ReplyDeleteSpace Pirates.
ReplyDeleteOMG A MALE PONY!
ReplyDelete@drakethedragon
ReplyDeleteI think most of the wiki rage revolves around them not being names used in the show and the vectors not looking like the show characters. Not to mention the rather hostile tone the admins are taking. But you're right, it's definitely worse over there.
Not gonna cal her heartstrings. That can be her last name, then it's sounds oki.
ReplyDelete@TheBlackBaron
ReplyDeleteWell, I don't think any of these ponies in these bags have been mentioned on the show yet. Now I could see them getting mad if they got the actual canon names wrong, but names that haven't even been mentioned yet? Not so much.
@Ropera
ReplyDeletePunch isn't a unicorn, but Pinch certainly is.
Lessee...
ReplyDeleteHeartstrings is the wrong color to be Lyra, the mint green is absent, she's more of a slightly bleached blue. (or dark teal if we're going by the card picture)plus, she's a recolor of Twilight.
Berryshine is a unicorn, while Berry Punch is definitely an earth pony, and her hair color isn't the same color. She's also just a recolor of Rarity.
Noteworthy... yeah i got nothing. sorry, Blues.
Golden Harvest is too dark of a shade of yellow in the card, and she's simply a recolor of Pinkie Pie.
long story short, these are not the ponies we're looking for. Except Blues (anyone think of anything for him?).
also, Hasbro's recolors are a SIN. (especially "Peachy Pie", and the way they threw Fluttershy's hairstyle out the window.)
@Anon Pony With A Name
ReplyDelete...you honestly can't think of ANYONE that has Carrot Top for a name? :|
Lyra Heartstrings is ok, but she'll ALWAYS be Lyra to me.
ReplyDeleteBerryshine I'm completely fine with, despite the unicorness.
Noteworthy "Blues" I like MUCH more that Blues Noteworthy
And Golden Harvest...Eh. I'll still call her Carrot Top, but her name isn't that horrible.
1) We are not the target demographic. This is a reminder of that.
ReplyDelete2) The cards aren't what's really important... the figures are. And the figures don't have the names on them, so we can go on calling them whatever we want!
well shoot good thing none of those main six clones look anything like Berrypunch, Lyra, or Carrottop.
ReplyDeleteGod those toy names are terrible. I mean those are like something you'd hear in a pre-g4 pony show. Eww lame. Lyra got shafted though cause Heart Strings was like the most common name people thought up when they seen her cutie mark. Hasbro just needs to go ahead and make fanon names official for these background ponies imo screw it all
@Cudle
ReplyDeleteYou have won this entire argument. Kudos to you and have an internet. :D
The legal issues isn't because some of the fans made up names for the ponies and put them out on the internet; those mostly fall under public domain or some other variation of the 'you posted it so we don't have to pay for it' law.
ReplyDeleteThe real reason behind the legal issue is the same as why Rainbow Dash isn't Firefly. Some bigger company, entity, or rich person has an official copyright and hasbro can't go near the name without getting sued. Just like the comedian that owns 'Carrot Top', there's something out there that owns the term 'Berry Punch', 'Lyra', and 'Blues' (most likely Blues Clues on that last one).
As flattering as the notion may seem, making a fanfic or fanart and giving it a name does not give us sufficient copyright claim to force Hasbro into altering character names. There are much bigger entities keeping us from the names we love, we just aren't aware of them.
Now, for the love of Celestia, will somepony please go check on Wooden Toaster/Glaze. Maybe take his shoelaces away from him while you're at it. If we lose him, we lose a very large and very awesome chunk of our music-base.
@drakethedragon
ReplyDeleteI think that's the thing, though. None of our favorite BG ponies have stated in-show names (and the show takes precedent over everything else), and frankly, these toys really don't look much like them at all.
Golden Harvest? Nope.
ReplyDeleteHeartstrings? It could work as a last name, but only in some fanfiction (definitely not mine). Lyra will always be preferred.
Noteworthy? Meh. It's fine. I never really cared about that one.
Berryshine? Keeps half the name at least, but Berry Punch is better.
Fanon>Canon. But these ARE THE TOYS, they just keep making stuff up for them, remember? That horrifyingly pink Celestia and AJ's truck?
Screw the toys. The show is where it's really at.
@Cudle
ReplyDeleteYeah pretty much this.
I disagree about the toy names being more "creative," though. More abstract, sure. That doesn't mean better and doesn't mean more thought went into it.
I'll use the old names, myself, simply because I think they fit better. If others want to use these, that's perfectly fine! Just so long as their reasoning isn't "it's more official" or "it's canon" because neither is true. The animators and showrunners use the fanon names too, and their view matters more than the toy designers and legal department of Hasbro when it comes to how "official" or "canon" the names are. Even then, what matters most of all is one's own view; this isn't reality so you can reject whatever the hell you want, canon or fanon.
Anyway, yes, Lyra/etc fans, be overjoyed you can have an official toy for your best pony. Just scratch out the name on the box if you don't like it; it's not like that matters anyway.
@l33tsaber
ReplyDeleteYou have solved this connundrum! Now to apply this principal further:
Lyra Heartstrings
Berryshine Punch
…Wait, do we have a name for Noteworthy already?
Carrottop Goldenharvest
…Okay, I guess it mostly just works for the first one. Oh well.
Also, we can just say that these are their evil twins. Especially Berryshine. She hardly looks like Berry Punch.
ReplyDeleteWhy get so worked up over background ponies? The mere fact that Hasbro's releasing them should be something to be thankful for.
ReplyDeleteAnd seriously Heartstrings > Lyra. Take off your fanon goggles.
@Meganerdbomb
ReplyDeleteLyra is clever and rolls of the tough. Hearstrings sounds like a sappy older generation pony.
*tongue
ReplyDeleteGuys, guys, guys. One more time: Love and tolerate. I know these names and figurines are a disappointment to lots of us, but we can't shout angrily at Hasbro. We put up with haters and internet AIDS but we're willing to argue over things like names. I love you guys, and it hurts to see you so angry.
ReplyDeleteA rose by any other name, guys...any name is just a name, do or don't do with it what you will, but tone down the anger, k?
<3 Love you guys,
Mikey Turner
Yeah... What applebeams said. The toy department has almost nothing to do with the crew behind the show, remember? These names are not canon yet, as far as I'm concerned.
ReplyDeleteBe that as it may, people will do what they want to do anyway. If you like the new names and what to use them in any way in fanfics and such, up to you. As for me, I'll stick with the names we know and love.
@Brainstorm
ReplyDeleteBut the only reason that there are fanon names is because there is a huge older-age fandom, and the only reason there is such a fandom is because of the quality of the show. Therefore, wasn't it inevitable that fandom names would be made where official names failed to materialize until well after a year of the characters first appearing?
@ponydoraprancypants
If they made a Derpy Hooves toy, they would obviously name her "Ditzy Doo", since that's been used on the show and it isn't really that offensive to any particular group of people. (Even saying that "derpy" is an adjective that describes a group of people is stretching it a bit.)
(My apologies to those who have to search through comments to find the context of what I'm replying to.)
Consider these as secondary names such as middle or last name.
ReplyDeleteHeartstrings is actually a fitting last name for Lyra. Lyra Heartstrings.
If Twilight can have a last name then so can Lyra.
Noteworthy Blues? Blues Noteworthy? Kinda getting there but it's going to take some time in getting use to.
Golden Harvest; I don't see this catching on at all.
SO MUCH ANGER! You all need to chill out about this whole name thing. Who gives a buck? Wasn't it Shakespeare who said, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet,"? Just be happy that things are moving in the right direction, throw away the card if you want to, and call them whatever you want.
ReplyDeleteI will still give an internet (and possibly a BJ) to anyone who can point me to a place I can buy these (not eBay, an official source plz). Yes I'm a lazy noob.
No.
ReplyDeleteBad Hasbro
They already have names.
Noteworthy is a great name.
ReplyDelete...there's MALE blind bag ponies now? :o
ReplyDeleteCool... I thought they were all just mane 6 (or rather, 5 X_x) moulds .
They are so clearly Twilight, Rarity, and Pinkie Pie. This doesn't change a thing.
ReplyDeleteNINJAS! SAMURAI! ZOMBIES! ROBOTS!
ReplyDeleteSorry Seth, i know the effort you put into organizing all this stuff, but petition denied.
ReplyDeleteNew names will be used as TAGS on all new fanfics. You must adjust fanfics on previous posts, or leave the FANDOM and the new official ones as separated. This will happen on all other fanfic portals, and just because you are EqD you cannot impose those rules and force all Bronies to continue to use those fandom names. Ajust yourself to this situation, what will happen with all other ponies or situations? Adapt or start tagging from 0 new official names. But do not ask us to ignore official stuff, nobody has that power.
@Night Star
ReplyDeletelolwut?
Who are you?
@Night Star
ReplyDelete>implying that 90% of the fandom won't keep using the fandom names.
please kindly remove your lips from this imaginary cock of officialness.
also
>implying that toys are canon to the show.
I'm pretty sure we could just rule out Blindbags as non-canon. It's been done in other franchises.
ReplyDeleteSuch as Warcraft. Everything that was contained in the Warcraft RPG is non-canonical even if it was approved by Blizzard (and most likely made by them too)
Blindbag may be the same.
About the names: Just ignore that :p To me they will always be known as Lyra, Berry Punch and Carrot Top.
ReplyDeleteIt's nice to see they actually made famous background ponies into blindbag models, although the fact they're just recolours :p
Heartstrings? Berryshine? If they can't even be bothered to use the actual ponies on the cards, then they are still Berry Punch and Lyra to me.
ReplyDelete@Chaoslux
ReplyDeleteactually Metzen clarified it's more of a pick and choose kind of thing their gonna do.
basically stuff in the RPG is non-canon, unless stated otherwise later, so they can still draw on stuff in it if they so choose to.
however the Blindbags are toy's done by a section of the company seperate to the ones who do the show, hence yeah they are not show canon.
@metaXzero You want another wiki? http://mylittlebrony.wikia.com/wiki/MyLittleBrony_Wiki
ReplyDeleteThough... heh, that's because we haven't actually decided yet. Though my vote's with Lyra Heartstrings.
Lyra Heartstrings: works fine IMO, now we have a surname for her.
ReplyDeleteBlues Noteworthy: Same deal.
Berry Shine: is a unicorn. Berry Punch was an earth pony. Maybe they're sisters or something.
Golden Harvest:... Imma stick with Carrot Top, sorry Hasbro.
@ponydoraprancypants
ReplyDeleteConsidering there are officially licensed shirts naming Derpy, I have to think that licensing and for that matter people with "medical conditions" aren't a big issue. But, I'm not a lawyer so...
"Berryshine - loves berries".
ReplyDeleteNailed it! :D
And also, the names weren't that bad imho, some of you ponies are overreacting. There are some much worse in Wave 1 + 2, and the choice to include these fellows (as well as even making a male model) was obviously made in order to appeal to us in the first place. Beggars can't be choosers.
ReplyDeleteI really like how "Heartstrings" will now be Lyra's last name as far as ascended fanon goes. As a stand-alone name it sounds weird, but I like "Lyra Heartstrings".
@80PercentBrony
ReplyDeleteThere is a Big McIntosh in the wave 3 blind bag set (the one these will come in), no need to mod. :D
Awww... Oh well, I guess I'm okay with this.
ReplyDeleteAs I've said in the past, the toy production team at Hasbro really should be more effectively interfaced with the show production team. I mean really; they hardly hear from each other!
And there certainly aren't any bronies in that toy production team, I would think.
Well, I do like Noteworthy...but I prefer Lyra and Carrot Top. Heartstrings is a little fru-fru for my tastes and Golden Harvest sounds a little too...new age-y? I'm not sure, but I'm not crazy about it.
ReplyDeleteBerryshine I can get behind. She'd be named for the drink she makes: berryshine. It's like moonshine, only with berries. See? Now she gets to stay our adorable lovable drunk! :P
Until it's spoken in the show I wouldn't consider it canon. It's already been said that the toy dept. and the studio don't have that direct interaction. (Pink Celestia and other show-inaccurate qualities from the toys come to mind)
ReplyDeleteAnd judging by how they(the studio) handled Derpy, I honestly think they'd rather use the fanon names if needed. Unless, of course, they were put under pressure from Hasbro to use THEIR names.
@Aceed
ReplyDeleteThat one is going to be fun to watch, since Sibsy and Lauren have given different answers as to the correct spelling of Mac's name.
I can live with these, what I'm more interested in is when these will be available in my neck of the woods.
ReplyDeleteI can see the legal hurdles for using the fan names, it can range from being safer using a in-house name to not being sued by using a similar name. There was a time when they couldn't use Bumblebee for Transformers because it sounded to close to a restaurant's name and they still can't use Hotrod for tv or toys except for the licensed comicbook from IDW.
We should just be happy that they gave us a shout out and hope they continue to till we finally get show accurate stuff.
You can use some of these as last names (Or extended full names).
ReplyDeleteLyra Heartstrings (Very nice, Like that one)
Berryshine Punch? (Just shortened to Berry Punch?)
Blues Noteworthy (It can work)
Golden Harvest... Yeah I've got nothing on this one.
Still disappointed on the pictures though. Couldn't they have got a vector from the show?
Oh come on, you can clearly see they were too cheap (or lazy) to put the actual look of the BG chars on the cards/models and in stead recolored pinkie pie and rarity (2nd one is big mac?)
ReplyDeletecaptain obvious is obvious.
ah well..
* 3rd, not 2nd. forgot about Lyra
ReplyDelete@TheManWithTwoNames
ReplyDeleteDerpy has never been Ditzy according to that one person most bronies seem to hold in high esteem.
I quite like Noteworthy. It evokes a sort of Miles Davis-esque jazz "arrogance" thing. He's been a bit neglected by the fandom and this might be the trait we need to make another interesting male pony for the fanon.
ReplyDelete@applebeams
ReplyDeleteThis is an excellent point.
As for the names themselves, Lyra Heartstrings is a nice full name... Berryshine Punch could be like Berry's full name with Just shortening it to Berry as a nickname. Noteworthy Blues actually sounds pretty cool.
Golden Harvest... yeah, that one's crap. Actually, that would work better for a wheat farmer than for a carrot farmer.
All in all, could be worse. I just hope that if they can't use our names for "legal reasons" that they don't ever actually try and name the characters in the show itself.
Now THAT might cause a shitstorm.
Gotta say, I'm kinda saddened at the backlash, particularly on Lyra's page on the wiki.
ReplyDeleteNow, on the one hand, yes, I've got to agree with the admins there, that until proved otherwise, Heartstrings is the canon name.
However, there seems to have been a consistent effort on their part to scrub 'any' mention of Lyra from the page, with not so much as a mention or a link to the character's considerable fanbase and fanworks. I think that is going too far, especially given the wave of material the fanbase has created for that bench-sitting unicorn.
I mean, if you search Deviantart for 'pony lyra' you get over 2000 results. That mare has a following!
Quid pro quo, if ever Derpy's real name was actually given in the show (directly in reference to her) as Ditzy Doo, then you can be sure that her Wiki Page would be retitled, but that mention of the name 'Derpy Hooves' would be retained. Why can't the same be done for Lyra, Berry and others?
One of the things that appeals to me the most about MLPFIM is the consistency and closeness of the fandom and their fanworks. Seeing that endangered because a few tempers got riled is saddening, especially because I've seen the EXACT SAME ARGUMENT over canon vs fanon lead to massive fallings-out in other fandoms, and I don't want to associate Bronies with such affairs.
So, in an appeal to everypony, let's take a step back and have a breather here, and try to be the better pony as it were.
Following up my own post, in contrast to the ugliness over on the wiki, where the mods seem to have backed themselves into a corner and are now defending their position with extreme agression, it's nice to see how posters over here have quickly reconciled the fanon with the canon.
ReplyDeleteLyra Heartstrings
Berryshine Punch
Noteworthy Blues
All sound beautiful. And heck, I'm all for Carrot Top being Golden Harvest's nickname, much ashow people oft regarden Derpy as being a nickname (either affectionate or offensive) for Ditzy Doo.
This is another example of how the fandom can layer these elements together, adding further details and backstories to these characters.
So yeah, my previous appeal is mainly directed at the flame war currently waging on the wiki.
One of the things that has defined MLP:FiM is the close relationship between canon/creators and fanon/fandom. Let the wiki reflect that by ensuring both sides are catered for sides (and acting responsibly by ensuring people led there by fan material are able to navigate easily), and let there be peace.
I mean, how controversial would this be;
Heartstrings, also known in the fan community as Lyra...
...until confirmation of her name in the Blind Bag toy release, Heartstrings gained the widespread fan-name Lyra. Many fans have reconciled the two, accepting Heartstrings as Lyra's surname.
Heh, Lyra toy color is better matching the original than the one on the picture! Incredible! Someone at the chineese factory got bronized?
ReplyDeleteNice to see they get official names, just too bad they cannot use fanon names, but it was to be expected. I think I'll view it as this being their real names, and the fanon-versions are their nicknames. Everyone happy ^_^
ReplyDeleteI have nothing against the names... exept for Golden Harvest, harvest is ruined for my innocence thanks to Blood Harvest on Left 4 Dead and the Organ Harvester... the only thing I really really hate, is the lazy art, I mean, really? just a recolor of the mane 6 and Big Mac? Damn you plastic mold! If Hasbro is really worried about money here, I don't know why they can make new plastic molds (In my experience those are not expensive) and actually realize the profit they can get from us
ReplyDeleteDoes this mean that the fandom owns the names we created? I thought that we couldn't own something like that, its their pony and all.
ReplyDeleteNo, no, a thousand times, no. Especially Golden Harvest, sounds like the Golden Vegetable flavour rice sachets we have in the UK.
ReplyDelete@Costanza
ReplyDeletePerfectly fine by me.
Guys, the cutie marks are NOT the same. Berry Punch's fruits are the other way around, Blues has 4 notes, and Carrot Top doesn't have that band.
ReplyDeleteTo me, it seems that this is just a case of canon-hungry bronies grasping at straws.
Stop being whiny. You can always use both names.
ReplyDelete- Lyra Heartstrings [Full name, like Twilight Sparkle]
- Berry "Punch" Shine [So you can call her Berry, Berry Punch or Berry Shine]
- And Carrot Top.... Well it's her nickname.
No need to change everything. Just like in LOST. People used to call James "Sawyer", before they figure out his real name. But even after figure out his real name, some of them didn't stop calling him Sawyer.
"Lyra Heartstrings" I like it. Make it fanon, fanfic creators!
ReplyDeleteAre we even sure that these are meant to be specific background ponies? All of this controversy is based on a fairly shaky assumption.
ReplyDeleteFor all we know this could just be one of the toy designers unofficially giving a nod to the bronies. Maybe they were given names and told to make ponies for them, and they might as well give us color schemes similar to popular background ponies.
My point is there are a ton of unknowns here. It makes no sense to jump to any conclusion right now. As far as I'm concerned the background ponies are still unnamed.
What's next? Is derpy Hooves's name going to be "silly muffin?"
ReplyDeleteOnce again, Hasbro has failed to make its products true to the show. These are not the same ponies you see in the show. Not even close. Therefore, these names are invalid and anyone who uses these names rather than Berry Punch, Blues, Carrot Top, and Lyra should be lynch mobbed by the rest of the fandom.
ReplyDeleteIt also seems strange that they haven't made Derpy yet. She's the most popular background pony by far.
Apologize if this has already been said: These could easily fit with fanon. "Heartstrings" could be Lyra's last name, and other fanon names could be nicknames.
ReplyDeletePoint is, no one needs to freak out.
Carrot Top =/= Golden Harvest.
ReplyDeleteIf you watch the episodes again (especially Winter Wrap-Up and Lesson Zero), you can see "Carrot Top" is on two WWU teams, and appears twice in the fight for Smartypants. The simplest explanation is that one is Carrot Top and the other is Golden Harvest.
I think the admins over at the wiki need to take a closer observation to these toys instead of jumping to conclusions.You can obviously see that these are not the background ponies that we know and love,well except Blues Noteworthy.They got him spot on.
ReplyDeleteGolden Harvest has 2 carrots on her flank while Carrot Top has 3.
Lyra has a hairstyle similar to RD's and a white stripe down the middle.Heartstrings has Twilight's everything basically with no white stripe down the middle.
They're a lot of ponies that look like other background ponies but it's not them.Take Derpy Hooves for example.She has several background ponies that share her same design(cutie mark and all) with a different hair color.
These names...?
ReplyDeleteThey.
Are.
Horrible.
We all knew that the names the Bronies gave them were nothing more than fan names and that he people who named them probably don’t even know about all the background stories the Bronies gave them. Let’s just accept them as official names and move on.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I will still call them Lyra and Carrot Top instead of Heartstring and Golden Harvest. Those are the names I used the last half year and they are good enough for me, even if they aren’t canon. Besides I don’t collect the toys and it’s very unlikely that we’re ever going to hear their names in the show. So it’s easy to ignore that.
Other people may call Lyra by her official name or Lyra Heartstring or Melody because they don’t like any of those names and that’s alright. Love and tolerance. No need to start a flame war about such a thing.
As for the Fan fiction archives, there’s an easy solution. Replace the Lyra tags with a Lyra/ Heartstring tag. Simple and beautiful.
Finally something that has nothing to do with the names: Many those guys who make the toys are lazy. The pictures on the cards are just recolors of the Mane Six and Big Mac and the Berry is now an unicorn. I guess we should be glade that they got the colors right this time. ;)
There's always going to be problems when fanon and canon clash, so this is expected. I honestly don't care, seeing as these ARE background characters. Most will never be important canonically, so this is nothing in the long run. Call them all what you want, it won't make a lick of difference. With 10 seconds of research, we all will still know who you're talking about in your fics, so big deal. I prefer Ditsy Doo to Derpy Hooves as a name, but it feels like I'm in the minority at times. Honestly, unless they start calling them by name in the show, I see no reason to even waste time being irritated over this.
ReplyDelete@Michael Lewis
ReplyDeleteYou dare to disagree with the glorious fanon by calling Derpy not Derpy? OFF WITH THE HEAD!!!
Just kidding, of course. I really wish more people would see it that way. :) They we wouldn't have this debat.
I think the fanon names are better, to be honest.
ReplyDeleteI'll be keepin' those :3
All OC pony creators that just recolour rejoice. Hasbro does it, that makes it TOTALLY OKAY.
ReplyDeleteNOW YOU TOO CAN BE AS AWESOME AS TWILIGHT but totally not twilight because of a yellow streak in her hair.
'Eeee-yup' As Noteworthy would note.
@Ropera
ReplyDeleteThe cutie marks are different.
Blues: ♫♫
Noteworthy: ♪♪♪
@Nulono
ReplyDeleteMy mistake,thank you for correcting me on that one.
@Nulono
ReplyDeleteThey sound different too, lol
This is not a big deal. Of course they weren't going to take fan names. They may have had their own names. Sure, the toys and art are recolors of the mane cast, but that's Hasbro.
ReplyDeleteBut Hasbro didn't make the show as loved as it is. We did. Well, us and the Hub crew. We made stories up for Lyra and Bon Bon, not them.
That's not Lyra, Blues, Berry Punch and Carrot Top. Those are clones. Mindless, heartless, soulless, recolored clones of the mane case (and Big Mac, for some reason) being sold to little girls. for a profit.
We shouldn't feel crushed that they're not named for our favorite fanon names. We should pity them. Pity those poor cloned ponies.
Pity them that they haven't been given souls by Hasbro. And hope that somewhere out there, those ponies are given to a little girl with a big imagination, who will grow up to make a TV show about her favorite pastel colored ponies.
Rock on my Brony brethren. Rock on. o.o\m/
This is why I don't get involved with Fanon. Canon all the way for me.
ReplyDeleteThe names are perfectly fine and they fit. And to be honest, with the history of Pony names they've got going for them, things could be a LOT worse.
I can't this seriously for two reasons. Most of these are just repaints of Mane 6. Though Noteworthy isn't too bad of a name. But I especially can't take Golden Harvest seriously since it was a Chinese restaurant when I was in college.
ReplyDeleteAgain guys.
ReplyDeletehttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AscendedFanon
Heck Hasbro themselves have some Transformers entries where an idea popped up in fanon, than ended up in canon.
Names like Carrot Top and Colgate were pretty much doomed though. But still, I don't take these recolors as the BG characters. Especially Berry and I like Berryshine.
Also Shadowdemon137, the bad deeds always weigh out the goods. It'd be one thing if the wikia was going with Heartstrings while mentioning Lyra, but going out of their way to remove any mention of Lyra is low.
Than again, you guys don't count Sabrina Alberghetti saying that the script of the show says "Big MacIntosh" as a "reliable source" and continue going with McIntosh (and of course making sure MacIntosh is never mentioned ever). So I guess doing low and controversial things on the wikia is just fine and dandy for the admins there.
these are not canon by any stretch of imagination. remember, its irrelevant unless its in the show.
ReplyDelete@metaXzero
ReplyDeleteYet we did. There's a link to the Fan Labor wiki on the page.
Sibsy said "She believed". Lauren posted a sketch and never said "She believed". Good weighs out the bad, I guess?
Also, I find this extremely hilarious. A couple months ago, someone from 4chan bitched about how Seth was not condoning to what they wanted, and everyone on this blog backfired and fought with that person. This SAME THING is happening, and yet WE are to blame. Funny, isn't it?
ReplyDeletegoddamn it, this entire thread has made me hate this fandom a bit.
ReplyDeleteam I one of the few sane people here?
seriously we are arguing over nothing.
Lyra Heartstrings...not bad. I kinda smiled.
ReplyDelete@Shadowdemon137
ReplyDeleteThat wasn't there last I checked. Though still, it seems you guys are jumping on these blindbags too fast. To me anyway.
Sibsy only meant she didn't have a script on her to verify at that moment so she was going by what she remembered on last seeing. Based on her memory, she is CERTAIN it's MacIntosh. And you guys make a big deal on Faust's word when the fact is its her word as an ex-member of the group who has no influence on the show's current direction vs. Sibsy's word as someone who does work on the show and has seen later scripts of it. Are you really telling me you don't think she can remember a detail like "is there an "a" in his name"?
Though I guess this isn't the time or place.
It's already well established that the toys blatantly disregard canon -- pink Celestia and AJ's truck, anyone?
ReplyDeleteIn this instance, both the toys themselves and the images on their cards are obvious recolours of Twi, Rarity, Big Mac and Pinkie. It ultimately doesn't matter whether these are supposed to be the "real" Lyra et al. or not -- lazy recolours like these will never be taken seriously.
As mentioned above, Word of God rests with Lauren, Jason and the team working on the actual show. The toymakers will keep doing whatever it is that makes them money, to hell with canon -- until, of course, they realize the financial opportunity the, ahem, periphery demography provides...
Also Shadowdemon, its the fact that there are quite a few things that make these "canon names for the BG characters" questionable, yet quite a few people are just jumping on them and turning a blind eye towards the oddities of it. I like Berryshine, but she's a unicorn while Punch is an Earth Pony.
ReplyDelete@metaXzero
ReplyDeleteIt's been there for a while. Maybe through your hate you didn't see it?
Sibsy chats with the fandom a lot, and Big McIntosh doesn't have many appearances in the show. Perhaps they combined when she "believed" it?
One way or the other, I'm done with this. She has her previous name mentioned in the merchandise section of the page, so you guys can stop complaining.
@metaXzero
ReplyDeleteBerry Punch was never changed. It's still Berry Punch.
Chill guys. Reposting what I posted on the wiki thread.
ReplyDelete'I personally don't mind the name changes; what I do mind is seeing fans acting in a manner demeaning to our fandom and the show by raging at one another and neither group being able to compromise with the other. I've seen this before in other forums and it sullied the experience for myself and everyone else involved - frankly, the 'my way or the highway' attitude both the staff and objectors have shown is humiliating to all of us. I'd be embarressed and ashamed if Lauren, Jason, or anyone from Studio B or Hasbro were browsing this thread right now - I'd say it would be a surefire way of distancing the official creators than us, rather than continue the close bond which has resulted in these background ponies recieving offical names clearly styled after the personalities the fans have ascribed to them.
Just please, everypony consider how you're approaching this - it's obvious that passions run deep, just please don't let them run away out of control.
Come on everypony, don't aggro and just approach this with a degree of respect for one another.'
And Shadowdemon137, thankyou for the concession of mentioning her fandom-name in the merchandise section. I'm sure everypony appreciates it :)
@TB3
ReplyDeleteI didn't add it. Throw did. Trust me, I wanted to add a little something about Lyra the whole time.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH! WHAT ARE THESE NAMES!!??? WHAT ARE THEY!?!?!? WE NEED TO GET ANGRY ABOUT THIS!!
ReplyDelete@Shadowdemon137
ReplyDeleteWell then thankyou to you both. :)
And long live Lyra, Heartstrings, Lyra Heartstrings, or any permutation thereof.
(honestly, I've got to admit, she is my favourite background pony - God help me but she is just so adorable).
Shadowdemon.
ReplyDeleteAnd perhaps Faust simply typoed her Deviantart entry by leaving out the a. What ifs aren't going to get us anywhere.
Her word is is her memory of the script. I'd like to think that as little times Mac appears, she can remember if there is an A in his name or not.
But didn't mean to bring it up as a whole here. Just bringing up that the shitstorm wasn't a first for the wiki due to going out the way to remove mentions of an alternate name.
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ReplyDeleteWhat we need is a canon hierarchy. That way when we have conflicting info we can just go with the higher ranked source.
ReplyDeleteSomething like this might work:
A Canon = the show itself
B Canon = interviews with writers/creator of the show
C Canon = toys and toy packaging.
D Canon = promotional material and commercials
As much as I like some of the fanon, by it's very nature it can't be considered canon.
Whatever we do we need to just get organized, this bickering and in-fighting isn't good for the show or the fans.
TL;DR the comments above.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, my personal belief is that those aren't the ponies we've been seeing in the background, but different ponies entirely!
I mean, they're very similar, sure, but there are enough differences to say that they are just close relatives(siblings, perhaps?)
This might not be how canon will turn out, but until I hear names in the show itself, Lyra and Heartstrings will be twin sisters in my book!
Haha, in Polish they translated Blues/Not Worthy text in feminine form! Poor boy.
ReplyDeleteBerry Punch does not suit the Rarity recolour...
ReplyDeleteguys, dont get all worked up over some wiki admins being faggots. 90% of all wikis on the net are ran by complete dicks. welcome to internet.
ReplyDeletebeing controversial is how admins like these get traffic for their sites. how many of you never heard of the mlp wiki, and went there just because of this crap? i thought so.
as with trolls, the only way to win is not to play. just ignore them.
@aldariz
ReplyDeleteIncluding yourself? I take offense to your remark.
Guys, as an admin on the mlp wiki, we WANT to ignore the simple facts, but its hard not to. There is a brony wiki http://mylittlebrony.wikia.com/wiki/MyLittleBrony_Wiki for all this, BG ponies are called what they were orginally named, lyra, blues, berry punch ETC. But guys PLEASE be mature about this. Ive seen people just come to the wiki for episodes or toys or something. please if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.
ReplyDeleteI agree with some of my fellow Bronies:
ReplyDeleteLyra Heartstings
Blues Noteworthy
Golden Harvest (I can get used to it, I guess Carrot Top would be her friend's nickname for her or something)
But Berryshine is a Unicorn and Berry Punch is an Earth Pony... relatives maybe?
how come for the pics theyve just recoloured the main characters
ReplyDeleteFuck it! Lyra is still Lyra and will forever be Lyra. Maybe her last name is Heartstrings. Yeah I like that. Lyra Heartstrings has a nice ring to it.
ReplyDeleteFuck, I was trying to avoid seeing these. Oh well, gave it a good run.
ReplyDeleteI hope I don't accidentally break anything.
All of those pictures are based off Lauren's original art for the Mane Six :/ Do not want, I like our names better, these just look like cheap recolors of the Mane Six :/
ReplyDeleteI actually like Heartstrings a lot! Berry Shine works too. Golden Harvest not so much, Carrot Top's better here.
ReplyDeleteyeah, those names aren't bad, tis a shame they can't use the fanon names tho, i mean, what will become of colgate!
ReplyDeleteI read polish title on Blues and WTF !!!
ReplyDelete"jest bardzo pomocna" POMOCNA !!! THIS IS STALLION NOT MARE !!!! you stupid translations !!!
Remember! Toys = canon! And in show he never states he is male. Canon indeed.
ReplyDeleteNoteworthy sound more important, Blues is more casual, I like Blues better
ReplyDeleteI like the idea that these are simple last names and our names are the first names. So Colgate will still be Colgate just as Lyra and Bon Bon are still Lyra and Bon Bon. It's just now we have last names to use too.
ReplyDelete@mattwhite924
ReplyDeleteFrankly, as far as the show goes I think the toys and toy packaging should be excised completely from canon. Otherwise, Applejack really does have a bright pink truck. It may not have been shown in the show, but there's nothing in it that explicitly says she doesn't either. By the FiM wiki guidelines that means it's official.
@Favo
ReplyDeleteWell, that's not even true. I see more people talking about the names rather than that; Hasbro not wanting to make show-accurate toys is pretty ancient news.
Anyway, like I had said, the toy branch of the company has never been entwined with the actual creators of the show. Hasbro probably just see it as more effort and expenses for what it's worth, which is understandable.
But...
ReplyDeleteNoteworthy's my OC's name...
But...
ReplyDeleteNoteworthy's my OC's name...
"Berryshine"
ReplyDeleteReminds me of moonshine. lmao
NOPE.AVI
ReplyDeleteThis... Heartstrings isn't Lyra. It's a Twilight recolor.
Much less this "Berryshine" is the Berry Punch I worship and adore. It's a Berrity.
I'd accept the names, but the models are just killing it for me. I'm disappoint Hasbro >:(
Noteworthy is a really cool name, I like it better then the fanon, but, THE OTHERS? NO. They suck. ;-; LYRA AND BON-BON WORKS> Heartstrings and Bon-Bon sounds creepy. Ooh... Creepy... Gosh the ideas~ <3
ReplyDeleteOf all the things that could happen. This is THE. WORST. POSSIBLE. THING!!!!
ReplyDeleteI know I'm being dramatic but seriously, these new names aren't going to be easy to get used to considering pretty much everybody knows them by their fanon names.
My God people. Calm down.
ReplyDeleteI mean, since when have ANY of us put stock in what the toys have to contribute to show canon? Because, last I checked, Celestia isn't pink and Applejack doesn't drive a truck.
Obviously, these cards are simply recolours of canon ponies. 'Heartstrings' is a recolour of Twilight, 'Berryshine' is a recolour of Rarity, 'Noteworthy' looks to be a recolour of Big Macintosh and 'Golden Harvest' is a recolour of Pinkie Pie.
We don't have to use these. We probably shouldn't use these - it'll just screw up everyone's established perception of the characters. They're toy canon, which is about as related to the show canon as Applejack's pink truck.
Although Lyra Heartstrings has a nice ring to it...
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ReplyDeleteI'm sorry but these are the official names. It doesn't matter if you like it or not. Noone should have ever expected that these ponies would have kept their fanmade names. They would never have had their fanmade names used in the show and they would never have released toys with the fanmade names.
ReplyDeleteI like the names. There is nothing wrong with them. Seriously, everyone is making up pretty weak excuses to why these names would not be canon. Only because they don't like the names. Hasbro created and owns my little pony. It can hardly be any more official than this.
After having read most of this... why oh why... I think a lot of the fanrage is coming from the MLP Wiki deciding to use the "official" names over the fan names, and not because the names were given. That's a fairly understandable position, I think.
ReplyDeleteNo plan to use the new names, except possibly for ponies that don't have an established fanon name. If any of them get named on the show, I'd be compelled to use the show names, but the toys seem so haphazardly conceived and designed I have no problem generally disregarding them.
ReplyDelete@schnickschnacks
ReplyDeleteI'm not pissed at the fact that there are now 'official' toy names. I'm pissed at the fact that people are kicking up so much of a fuss because they think that they now have to use these names because it comes from Habsro toys (that don't even look like the show characters besides from the cutie marks).
Then there's the people like you who are saying that since these are 'official', people have to use it and not "make up pretty weak excuses", which is just encouraging argument. I'm pissed at the perception of compulsion to use these names, and not the names themselves.
But this'll all be forgotten by the weekend, hopefully. All I'm gonna say is people can use what they want, but in the end most people will either stick with the fanon names to the show characters or they'll use this temporarily and switch back to the fanon show names.
@Municipal Engines
ReplyDeleteHonestly i thought most people realized that the fanmade names were just placeholders. The same problem would have happened if they were suddenly named in the show. People can do whatever they want and noone is forcing anyone but i don't think that switching over to the more official names is really that wierd. It would have happened either way. Unless Hasbro would never had made toys out of them but than people would start complaining about that instead. It seems like they can never win.
These plastic ponies are named like this, but the real ponies in our heart can be whatever we want them to be. *music in background*
ReplyDeleteI thought we bronies were tolerant, can't we be tolerant of hasbro as well?
but ohhhh.... why did they call Blues noteworthy, thats just gross....
"Gross"
ReplyDeleteGosh darn, you people are overracting! The names aren't THAT BAD! Not to mention, you're forgetting this is a merchandise-driven franchise. The show is supposed to promote the toys.
However, I WILL say that the toys should ALSO promote the show, and thus, should at least TRY to be faithful to it. But in this case, these characters never had "official" names, only names used by the fans, and you can't expect everyone at Hasbro to be "in-the-know" with what fans want.
I WANT A BIG MAC AND NOTEWORTHY! WHERE CAN I GET THOSE ONES!
ReplyDeleteLyra has gained a pretty surname. "Lyra Heartstrings."
ReplyDeleteBerry Punch has gained a unicorn cousin, Berry Shine and likely a drinking partner. This would also go along way to explain why Berry Punch's daughter (Berry Pinch) is a unicorn. There is some unicorn blood in the family.
Blues Noteworthy, has gain a surname. And perhaps a dignified family history.
Carrot Top will always be Carrot Top, no matter what is written on her tax forms. If anypony calls her 'Golden Harvest', be prepared to taste the 'hoof of fury'. Rainbow Dash may have a black belt, but guess who is the master.
@Vabla
ReplyDeleteYou make a good point there, but alas we shall forever use the fan names, Lyra is not heartstrings.
are these in stores in US yet?
ReplyDeleteYou know, I read some of them comments. Here's what I have to say:
ReplyDeleteNames. ...Kay. Take it how you want. Berryshine will never be accepted afaict, the others will likely find love in certain circles. (Berryshine is a unicorn, btw, so that will also be accepted.)
"Art." Have you looked at the Blind Bag ponies? ALL of them are the same recolours over and over again. What's new? Why are you complaining now?
"Golden Harvest has 2 carrots on her flank while Carrot Top has 3."
ReplyDelete^This made me laugh. I was going to bring up the idea that 'oh yeah, because the toys are TOTALLY 100% accurate all the way through *cough* pink Celestia *cough*,' but somepony already did.
"It's already well established that the toys blatantly disregard canon -- pink Celestia and AJ's truck, anyone?"
At least my roomie won't be confused when I'm talking about Carrot Top again and think I'm talking about the comedian.
ReplyDelete*sigh*
Okay, time to break out this stupid poem I wrote.
Ode to Fanon – by the reluctant Mitchell Bonds
If you find that you have writ
A story that’s a little bit
Divergent from the status quo
Then here is something you should know.
Put the canon in a cannon
Shoot it into space!
Fan fiction is just for fun, it’s not some kind of race.
Put the canon in a cannon
Shoot it to the moon!
Contradictions only matter never (later? Soon?)
Put the canon in a cannon
Aim it at the stars!
Pony-fy it, ship those people, add some flying cars!
And if what you’ve writ ain’t something that plays well with the canon
Even though it’s fun to read and write,
Just remember: authors cannot cover all their bases
And you can always add new people, stories, times, and places.
So if that thing that wakes you up in the middle of the night
Is a story that belongs, well, children, welcome, then, to… fanon.
So put the canon in a cannon
Shoot it out of sight!
Just grab that pencil, pen or keyboard
And write, write write!
--
Yes that's spawned by some damn decent pony fic, not this naming change, but I figure it fits and I'm going to keep using the names I know and love.
Those are NOT our ponies we know and love!!!
ReplyDeleteI really hope they don't use these names for the show
Its funny when you realize they did recolors of their own pictures
ReplyDeleteGuys, check this.
ReplyDeleteLyra Heartstrings
Berry "Berryshine" Punch
Blues Noteworthy
Carrot "Golden Harvest" Top
Hmm... I think it's kinda hard to fit my frustration into a little tiny comment box. So, I won't try to. Hasbso *sigh* ...ah whatever
ReplyDeleteThese are not in the fandom at all (yet).
ReplyDeleteThey share characteristics with certain fannon characters, eg Golden Harvest looks similar to Carrot Top, but the shape and hair in the picture is completely wrong, and the show has shown that multiple characters can have the same cutie mark (example: the Grand Galloping Gala song in episode 26. Many of the ponies singing share a cutie mark with another singer in the song)
@Unknown
ReplyDeleteIt's funny how everybody but the wiki seems to realize this, though. Then again, the rather hostile attitude of the admins seems to preclude them from doing so.