tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post265314005735620774..comments2024-03-28T13:36:33.816-06:00Comments on Equestria Daily - MLP Stuff!: Dealing with the Media PSASethistohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03362851157623052522noreply@blogger.comBlogger357125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-29021759010763138042011-10-21T08:50:18.746-06:002011-10-21T08:50:18.746-06:00In case no one has already pointed it out...
Kagem...In case no one has already pointed it out...<br />Kagemushi, a well-respected member of the furry community and old hand at public relations, has conducted several panel discussions on presenting to the public. In his case he was discussing furry culture, but all or most of his points apply to brony culture as well.<br />Here's a link to the first section of his discussion, including lots of tips and tricks for sidestepping uncomfortable questions (and when to just hold your tongue because you'll never get a fair shake anyway):<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5HyMH7YXFMstitchedwithcolorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16980006011170418484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-63287822387173512732011-10-16T04:39:32.813-06:002011-10-16T04:39:32.813-06:00i remember steve colbert giving a shout out on his...i remember steve colbert giving a shout out on his show to bronies as well (the crowd cheered). and actionscripter is right, america can turn a sneeze into an aids epidemic. ive seen more homeless people that have more dignity and honesty to them than the media here. its a very interesting thing isnt it? were just normal,open-minded,nice people who can actually enjoy things in life with out judging or hating. which is what the world claims to strive for yet we cant innocently like things thats actually good (its a completely family friendly show, and like old cartoons) but its perfectly ok to watch the trash on tv now a days. it makes me feel that people are exposing them selfs to "unhealthy" media persay that it influences how they think. they watch stuff where alot of bad things are displayed and in turn they probably get scared on the inside. they see something like this and they cant believe the truth. they think that something is wrong because they cant see it any other way.(in other words they cant unsee it) so yes for the love of all things good and innocent. we actually have to protect the good and innocent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-87048777267108253962011-10-15T16:20:12.202-06:002011-10-15T16:20:12.202-06:00@waffle911
I just looked this up myself. Knowing ...@<a href="#c7426925254445296086" rel="nofollow">waffle911</a><br /><br />I just looked this up myself. Knowing this, TLC wouldn't dare incriminate My Little Pony in the way we're all worrying about. Think about it; if they cause The Hub to lose ratings and popularity, John Hendricks (the Chairman of Discovery Communications, which owns TLC and The Hub) will pull the plug on the people behind that documentary pretty quick, and stop giving them paychecks. I doubt the people who are going to make this documentary aren't aware of this.Mehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03436392357399729612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-76278595727169206482011-10-15T13:15:35.821-06:002011-10-15T13:15:35.821-06:00BTW, I feel this entire topic needs to be stickied...BTW, I feel this entire topic needs to be stickied on the front page until the situation is resolved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-35396927158277011562011-10-15T13:11:43.235-06:002011-10-15T13:11:43.235-06:00Alrighty, listen up everypony!
If we send anybody...Alrighty, listen up everypony!<br /><br />If we send anybody to do an interview, we are screwed.<br /><br />If we don't send anybody, they'll either find some bronies on the streets that haven't gotten this warning, or they'll find people to pose as bronies, and thus we are screwed.<br /><br />The past episodes of this show coupled with the fact we are still a new fandom that not too many outsiders know about, means any negative spin (likely) they put on us will result in a total PR disaster.<br /><br />This is one of those situations in which if we don't play the game, we lose. On the other hand, if we play the game according to their rules, we lose as well.<br /><br />So how do we play the game and win? Well, here's some ideas:<br /><br />1. If you're a brony who happens to do something amazing that will awe and respect the public, then make your own interview.<br />- For example, I plan on doing a professional grade interview to upload to YouTube that basically interviews the bronies at my squadron. We work on helos, we fly on helos, and some of us (such as myself and 1 other brony) have open ocean rescues. The public doesn't want to see interviews of normal people. They want to see weird, or amazing.<br />- Do you happen to be a skydiver? BASE jumper? Find all the bronies you can find at a skydive boogie, and get some jump footage of you jumping together mixed in with interviews about how you all became bronies.<br /><br />2. Get our respected artists/writers/musicians featured on big name TV.<br />- You can't just ask the Colbert Report to do a brony interview. The writers for the show need a reason to interview us. So give it to them. Perhaps Lauren Faust or one of the current team leaders of MLP would like to be interviewed on a Colbert Report special on bronies? It'll never happen unless we (the fandom) message the writers of the show, and keep pushing for a brony episode. Perhaps Alex S. would be a good candidate for an interview, as he's definitely an up and coming electronic music star.<br />- Colbert Report not looking likely? Try the Daily Show. I have absolute confidence that we can push to have them do a segment about us. It's a matter of convincing them we have something worthwhile to bring to their show.<br /><br />Going back to my original statement, if we sit around and do nothing, we will lose, and likely lose pretty bad. If we play into their game according to their rules, we will lose even worse.<br /><br />The only way to win in this situation is to beat this show to a widespread public awareness of bronydom, and if we can beat them to it, we can show the brony fandom to the public according to our rules, and how we want to be portrayed.<br /><br />So let's get the ball rolling! It's time to make bronies known everywhere!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-27235776287703583222011-10-15T10:44:48.264-06:002011-10-15T10:44:48.264-06:00This brings up a great point, and honestly we shou...This brings up a great point, and honestly we should all just ignore just ignore this, to quote a Mr. Ackbar "IT'S A TRAP!".Dantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17231198931003954053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-22431410174786494062011-10-15T09:55:56.415-06:002011-10-15T09:55:56.415-06:00I agree that we need a brony-made documentary. So...I agree that we need a brony-made documentary. Something like the video done by That Guy with the Glasses, minus the sarcasm, would be nice.<br /><br />As for the mainstream media, there is <i>one</i> group that comes to mind: <a href="http://www.spacecast.com/fanboyconfessional.aspx" rel="nofollow"><i>Fanboy Confessional</i></a>. In their first season, they covered groups like Cosplayers, Steampunk, Furries and LARPers -- and did so not only in a dignified, non-sensational, non-biased-journalism-student manner, but in a way that made the fandoms I wasn't familiar with look pretty awesome. Personally, though, I think 30 minutes was not enough time for them to properly explore and define each fandom. (The Furry episode, for instance, didn't talk about the artwork and communities online enough. They're kind of important too, you know.)<br /><br />If FC gets a second season, they probably <i>will</i> be covering us bronies. And, again, if there's anyone we can trust to make a decent documentary about us, I think it's these guys.PHR16384https://www.blogger.com/profile/05166871793456098397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-23352384492394803112011-10-15T08:47:28.840-06:002011-10-15T08:47:28.840-06:00@WhiteDiamonds
Well, sometimes i do happen to lose...@<a href="#c2387098268031305217" rel="nofollow">WhiteDiamonds</a><br />Well, sometimes i do happen to lose my mind just a little bit... Good morning, everypony.Favohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13659911296132032331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-84856737413415778762011-10-15T08:17:37.717-06:002011-10-15T08:17:37.717-06:00yeah i don't see how watching a show for littl...yeah i don't see how watching a show for little girls as a male should be similar to people who eat rocks and do other strange weird thingspayphone101https://www.blogger.com/profile/12552790481412642360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-60983111407884345972011-10-15T07:51:33.739-06:002011-10-15T07:51:33.739-06:00Okay, people, the FOX news thing does not count as...Okay, people, the FOX news thing does not count as a serious smear attempt. It is Redeye, they're comedy spoof show. Nothing they do on that show is to be taken seriously, not even by the people doing it.Graywandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03202359683798036700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-75923230664100503872011-10-15T07:44:29.075-06:002011-10-15T07:44:29.075-06:00I'm not seeing a huge need to worry. When it c...I'm not seeing a huge need to worry. When it comes to TLC, people have either never heard of it or know it as that channel full of complete garbage. I don't know if there's some disturbing sub-group of people that actually take that channel seriously, but if there is, that is one group that truly deserves to be featured on "My Strange Addiction".<br /><br />As for general media relations, just refuse to have anything to do with TLC, Fox, or any sensationalist programs like them. Explicitly state concerns about their lack of journalistic integrity and throw up an open letter on ED stating that the fanbase is willing to deal with reputable organizations. This should counter the "secretive cult claims"scienceandponieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11617157469653857326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-8938128754771349522011-10-15T06:36:47.199-06:002011-10-15T06:36:47.199-06:00I really don't think I should have to keep say...I really don't think I should have to keep saying this, but the original post said 20 West Productions wanted bronies to show up on Hidden Lives. My Strange Addition only came up because that was the last program they produced.Lupus Albushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11661788143741740178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-55078792263914377172011-10-15T03:15:16.111-06:002011-10-15T03:15:16.111-06:00@wackyteen Agree 100% percent. A documentary comin...@<a href="#c4668296140324881028" rel="nofollow">wackyteen</a> Agree 100% percent. A documentary coming from the point of views from the fans would allow the people to gain a better understanding of who we are.<br /><br />As for this "My Strange Addiction" show, I really hope the episode doesn't go through. Like the post said, the world is a cruel place, and we would probably be treated worse by the extreme point of view the show likes to have. If the episode does go through, however, I'm hoping the person is a chill Brony or Pegasister.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07916821124352122146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-23870982680313052172011-10-15T02:10:50.964-06:002011-10-15T02:10:50.964-06:00@Favo
Your last post about us going to a junkyard...@<a href="#c290580779580716407" rel="nofollow">Favo</a><br /><br />Your last post about us going to a junkyard and building an 88 millimeter artillery mentally verbalized in Pinkie Pie's voice as I read it. I suppose that's my cue to get some sleep already.WhiteDiamondshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15330881754157567212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-56064020386310180632011-10-15T02:00:38.203-06:002011-10-15T02:00:38.203-06:00Absolutely excellent advice.Thank you for posting ...Absolutely excellent advice.Thank you for posting this.Dev_Nullhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18073051756669246660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-27567196957963248292011-10-15T01:56:20.352-06:002011-10-15T01:56:20.352-06:00hmmm in anycase who ever will be interviewed just ...hmmm in anycase who ever will be interviewed just be careful of what you say they might twist your words around<br /><br />and good luck!Roninfanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489628013200642912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-78143919218357374272011-10-15T01:51:50.314-06:002011-10-15T01:51:50.314-06:00hmmm true true...sometimes a live interview may no...hmmm true true...sometimes a live interview may not turn out good...they might try to twist your words XD<br /><br />in anycase who ever gets interviewed just a word of cautionRoninfanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489628013200642912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-2374372505621900432011-10-15T01:34:26.636-06:002011-10-15T01:34:26.636-06:00@Coyote
Please go away. Before you do I'm goi...@<a href="#c6894010604906853597" rel="nofollow">Coyote</a><br /><br />Please go away. Before you do I'm going to explain this as simply as possible. The furry fandom itself is not a sexual gathering. People NEED to understand that in any fandom, it's not some... minor amount of people who have sexual urges. It's everyone. Every last one of you has/or will have depending on your age, sexualized urges and fantasies. Everyone's gotta get off.<br /><br />So when, naturally, people in that fandom find well-done sexualized artwork, it becomes material. It's not some great, dark sickness that infects and spreads, because everyone is capable of it. Furries have been around for decades, so there's tons of furry porn. And yes, subcultures tend to attract people who can't find acceptance elsewhere, but they're just part of us - and shouldn't be consigned to the corner to be treated like the red headed stepchild that everyone else outside their fandom already treats them as.<br /><br />That said, I agree... we need to avoid the media. If we do, they'll say we're secretive and cultish, yes. But then what? That's all they can say. But if we try to play their game, we'll inadvertently give them ammo to use against us. Any fandom you've been in before, any of you, knows this to be true. Especially the mainstream hate-machine targets.<br /><br />If you say something good about what you like, someone will immediately twist what you say or bring it back to the central idea of what the commonplace thinks is wrong with it so that you're unable to escape either helping their attempts or just making yourself look bad.<br /><br />I plead with you, fellow bronies... don't think you can be some sort of hero and save the fandom or make it look pure and wonderful by going with these jackoffs. No matter who or what you are, you are not beyond reproach.<br /><br />Such as to the Navy Brony, our nation thanks you for your service, but this television station will use it against you. There's already the ages-old inter-branch casual hate-machining of each other. Coming from an Air Force family, I know this first hand, that the stigma with the Navy is that it's generally made up of homosexuals. Now, I doubt any brony is going to have a serious issue with that, but the show would make note of it. (Leave on a battleship, come back on a ferry/fairy boat) They can also swing it harder into the negative sensationalism, saying that bronies are 'infiltrating'/'corrupting' the military, like we're some sort of cult. Or worse, that 'even the nation's finest can't escape...'. Examples off the top of my head. Anything can be made to sound like anything if you spin it right/clever inflection and manipulation.<br /><br />Better to avoid them altogether rather than expecting you're the chosen one who can beat the odds. Do. Not. Gamble. This. Of course, that's just caution speaking. Maybe nothing will come of it. Maybe it won't be such a big deal if it does. But prepare for the worst and hope for the best.Kayrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389178649626608453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-64100331615253193392011-10-15T01:02:06.036-06:002011-10-15T01:02:06.036-06:00This was very enlightening, great information to k...This was very enlightening, great information to keep in mind!Applejack85https://www.blogger.com/profile/13644123865941328368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-86469215471168523482011-10-15T00:46:28.433-06:002011-10-15T00:46:28.433-06:00I's this for real? i mean, maybe I forgot my m...I's this for real? i mean, maybe I forgot my meds again...fakeguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07606029461419907601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-2905807795807164072011-10-15T00:31:53.753-06:002011-10-15T00:31:53.753-06:00Oh! I know what to do! We should go to a junkyard ...Oh! I know what to do! We should go to a junkyard and get pieces to build and 88 milimiter artillery to raid international banks and then raise funds to get a fleet of AC-130 gunships and-<br />We're fucked, aren't we?Favohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13659911296132032331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-8528886975696110022011-10-15T00:23:17.140-06:002011-10-15T00:23:17.140-06:00My biggest fear is the poor soul that they do deci...My biggest fear is the poor soul that they do decide to interview is naive and completely, bluntly honest. They'll tear him to shreds.<br /><br />I feel awful sometimes for people like Rebecca Black; they honestly did something that they enjoyed, showed it off, like everybody else does on the internet, and got positively thrashed for it. Yes, I know that her parents spent a lot of money on it, and she's probably spoiled as well, but there are plenty of other horrible music videos. PLENTY. And hers was pinpointed and ridiculed almost instantly. She even had to drop out of high school because of the bullying.<br /><br />I really do fear the outcome of this. I really really do. Not really for the community itself; we have a lot more resilience than an individual.Lorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18053319997808602894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-48719148593166233012011-10-14T23:52:58.751-06:002011-10-14T23:52:58.751-06:00I can only hope that everypony who sent a response...I can only hope that everypony who sent a response to the casting call sees thisProzzakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05126794098139032469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-8252079280927743102011-10-14T23:52:10.898-06:002011-10-14T23:52:10.898-06:00@Ish
Money>Ponies
That's the fucking terrib...@<a href="#c4922111918998843784" rel="nofollow">Ish</a><br />Money>Ponies<br />That's the fucking terrible world we live inFavohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13659911296132032331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-49221119189988437842011-10-14T23:37:02.978-06:002011-10-14T23:37:02.978-06:00Y'know, you guys need to have a little more fa...Y'know, you guys need to have a little more faith in the power of the pony. Even though these guys are trying to create a negative show (and I'm certain they'll succeed), they do need to do at least a basic level of research about it. They'll fall directly into the trap.<br /><br />Let me put it this way, they have a negative outlook on this show and the fans. They'll research the show possibly to the point of actually watching it because they need to find some dirt on us.<br /><br />Does that sound familiar to you, because to me it sounds like the way 90% of us became bronies. None of us knew what we were getting into before we saw this, and I'm willing to bet that they don't know either.<br /><br />Just wait, when the people behind the show suddenly realize that these ponies are awesome, they'll tone down the hate. There will still be hate because they need it to make money, but not nearly as much as there could be.<br /><br />Basically, business as usual. Move on.Solar Poweredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02707544371899864931noreply@blogger.com