tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post1685661422775002856..comments2024-03-25T01:23:13.554-06:00Comments on Equestria Daily - MLP Stuff!: Clarification From Hasbro About Regional DVD Sales and Episode ReleasesSethistohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03362851157623052522noreply@blogger.comBlogger179125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-6072362184238857592012-01-11T18:14:12.693-07:002012-01-11T18:14:12.693-07:00Surely it would have made better sense for Hasbro ...Surely it would have made better sense for Hasbro and Discovery to launch The Hub worldwide (especially since it replaced Discovery Kids, which did have a worldwide presence), rather than get into an absolute rights mess that we've got and be well behind the US?ElNormohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17703990464051069117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-35817703821686600562012-01-11T17:56:32.468-07:002012-01-11T17:56:32.468-07:00Respect for Hasbro is starting to grow.Respect for Hasbro is starting to grow.Favohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13659911296132032331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-24777938813407350912012-01-11T15:59:38.644-07:002012-01-11T15:59:38.644-07:00It's not quite as simple as selling everywhere...It's not quite as simple as selling everywhere at the same time, unfortunately.<br /><br />Different products require different strategies, and although a near-simultaneous worldwide release makes sense for some products there are additional costs and overheads involved in doing that, and it's only worth paying those costs if something is expected to be popular and have strong word-of-mouth sales. For something that's predicted to make a marginal profit at best a staggered release saves money and is more efficient. Hasbro probably expected that most of the world would never even notice their unassuming little show was there and certainly not discuss it, and I don't think anyone can credibly claim that they should have anticipated and planned for the Brony market. This is very much an exceptional situation for them.<br /><br />On top of that, MLP:FiM is not a standalone product. Hasbro has to consider not just the popularity of the show itself but also their ability to meet the demand for toys that it will generate. Their capacity for manufacturing MLP toys is limited and can't easily be altered, so they need to balance their desire to sell the show itself with their desire to sell the associated products. Distribute the show slowly and they risk losing the momentum it has gained. Distribute it quickly and they risk being unable to meet the resulting demand for the toys. They have to find a compromise that best suits the needs of the entire business, and getting the toy sales wrong will hurt them a lot more than getting the FiM sales wrong. FiM is not the primary product.<br /><br />There is no one-size-fits-all-products-and-all-markets strategy for Internet commerce. It's easy to use the benefit of hindsight to say what Hasbro should have done, but had the actual audience been the expected one of prepubescent girls then a simultaneous worldwide release would have been the wrong strategy and the additional costs and manufacturing limitations could well have wiped out any profits that might have been gained from the advertising. Taking everything into account Hasbro may not have made the best of all possible decisions, but in the absence of any ability to see the future the decision they did make was far from unreasonable.<br /><br />I'm no happier about the situation than any other non-US fan of the show, but I understand why the situation is what it is and why, in the absence of a time machine, it couldn't really have been any different. There are no easy answers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-56438526247837353182012-01-11T15:14:04.128-07:002012-01-11T15:14:04.128-07:00Aaaaaaaaand THIS is why I hate the fact that Hasbr...Aaaaaaaaand THIS is why I hate the fact that Hasbro is actually taking down the YT episodes.<br /><br />BUILD BEFORE DESTROYING, GUYS. <br /><br />*facepalm*Not A Good Username 360https://www.blogger.com/profile/12875105656885649770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-51576990191014238672012-01-11T11:44:31.819-07:002012-01-11T11:44:31.819-07:00@the-matthew
Well thanks for the clarification. Th...@<a href="#c6578033116215119355" rel="nofollow">the-matthew</a><br />Well thanks for the clarification. That explains a bunch... Altrough as of why one would agree to such deal in such manner on the first place escapes me.<br /><br />And still. I get the reason of wanting to have "the dibs" for a show. But it's been well over an year already with nothing in sight. The show is popular but no-one seems to be in any hurry to bring the episodes out.WhatPaynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11381907871500742754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-41013185156653332832012-01-11T11:21:26.730-07:002012-01-11T11:21:26.730-07:00Wait, why is the name of the manager redacted? Isn...Wait, why is the name of the manager redacted? Isn't that public information?henke37https://www.blogger.com/profile/15386775206223776809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-67363981350733288832012-01-11T10:33:11.240-07:002012-01-11T10:33:11.240-07:00OTOH I see MLP is at 182 in the itunes episode cha...OTOH I see MLP is at 182 in the itunes episode charts. So maybe they're right. We're nothing, because we don't buy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06378739614733672501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-78672263659642073892012-01-11T10:31:17.451-07:002012-01-11T10:31:17.451-07:00That's what we call a missed commercial opport...That's what we call a missed commercial opportunity. Someone ought to be losing their job. They're paralysed from exploiting an opportunity because of being trapped into bad contracts unsuited to the modern age.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06378739614733672501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-50713229576131155762012-01-11T10:28:29.455-07:002012-01-11T10:28:29.455-07:00In ten years time will we care? Right now we'd...In ten years time will we care? Right now we'd pay $50 for the bluray boxset. in ten years time it'll need to be heavily discounted i expectAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06378739614733672501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-74509737675028993192012-01-11T10:26:45.489-07:002012-01-11T10:26:45.489-07:00@TechnoTrot
Actually I sent the e-mail (of wich we...@<a href="#c3156970935269616486" rel="nofollow">TechnoTrot</a><br />Actually I sent the e-mail (of wich we have this reply) to Hasbro, and tried to contact US department. Unfortunately it went to Finland department instead, or got stopped there, wich got directed to her.<br />(the mail was lenghty, slightly rambling and polite)<br /><br />It is of little importance however who gets the credits of being the messenger, and besides there seems to be more than few mail bearers around anyway. As long as we are on the loop everything's okay.<br />Or as long as the messenger(s) doesn't get shot that is. :b<br /><br /><br />Anyhow, what really dreads me, is that Hasbro is currently making a contract (or contracts) with Finnish companies, wich means that they are probably doing same all around Scandinavia. If they follow the pattern they have followed so far, it is only dubbed ponies to us.<br />Horrible, horrible dubs...<br /><br />I hope that the DVD/Blue-ray packets will have English as an language option in them, if and when they land 10 years later here.MrCartierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04076961920909899828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-48264658688193044192012-01-11T09:45:27.298-07:002012-01-11T09:45:27.298-07:00@the-matthew
Yes, actually. It's been show ti...@<a href="#c1818018427801705135" rel="nofollow">the-matthew</a><br /><br />Yes, actually. It's been show time and again that corporations don't "get" the Internet, especially big ones. The games industry completely botched handling piracy in Russia for a decade until Valve took the (at the time) insane step of actually selling stuff at the same time rather then on a six month delay. Sales shot up and piracy went down.<br /><br />People will buy stuff if you sell it, who knew?<br /><br />This is the same type of nonsense. The only way to watch season 2 outside the US is torrents and Youtube. People aren't showing it, and Hasbro isn't selling it. Then they whine about piracy of the episodes.<br /><br />What the **** did they think was going to happen? If their partners in other countries aren't doing their part, maybe its time for Hasbro to start doing something about it instead of blaming fans.Tridushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14207065992394675380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-2882155372329653092012-01-11T09:41:19.509-07:002012-01-11T09:41:19.509-07:00So, they can't sell the episodes until Treehou...So, they can't sell the episodes until Treehouse airs them (in Canada). Treehouse STILL hasn't started airing season 2, which seemingly nobody outside the US is.<br /><br />Thus, with how this is going it'll never be possible to buy season 2 in Canada. And then these people wonder why we turn to Youtube and torrents?Tridushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14207065992394675380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-49117017305144051502012-01-11T08:23:38.532-07:002012-01-11T08:23:38.532-07:00As long as we can watch the show anyway I don'...As long as we can watch the show anyway I don't mind. I'll definetally buy it when it comes out though.<br /><br />I also slowly start to dislike many of the agreements and systems that big old companies work with. I hope it's worth it, and that a part of the money Hasbro gets from doing that supports the show!Cgetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12902668442492055516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-18180184278017051352012-01-11T07:23:35.523-07:002012-01-11T07:23:35.523-07:00@Ceorlic
Hasbro probably got the best deal they co...@<a href="#c495188115630366442" rel="nofollow">Ceorlic</a><br />Hasbro probably got the best deal they could get at the time. Chances are that none of the free-to-air channels wanted MLP:FiM, so they'd have sold the series on the best terms available to them. Boomerang offered the best terms. They may have been the only ones to take up the offer at all. We don't know, but we have to assume that Hasbro chose Boomerang for a reason.<br /><br />@everyone<br />Hasbro isn't run by idiots. They know their business, they've been trading on the Internet for at least 15 years, and they have far more information available to them than anyone here does. Does anyone here honestly think they understand Hasbro's business better than Hasbro does?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-56452654345686438552012-01-11T06:01:05.660-07:002012-01-11T06:01:05.660-07:00Sorry Hasbro, but until the lawmakers and rights r...Sorry Hasbro, but until the lawmakers and rights rulers realise that we are indeed living in an internet age, the 21st century, and learn to change with the times, I refuse to wait months, sometimes years, just to watch shows on my television.<br />Until Hasbro lets me buy the episodes from them day and date they're released on US tv, then we're at a stalemate.<br />Televsion businessmen need to stop living in the 80's.WizardWannabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07685193093322145381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-77117905964841528182012-01-11T05:58:44.072-07:002012-01-11T05:58:44.072-07:00I'm from Canada as well, and of course Treehou...I'm from Canada as well, and of course Treehouse carries MLP, and that is all. As others have noted, it shares airing with Dora the explorer, Thomas the tank engine, Teletubbies and other preschool shows.<br /><br />Not that these shows don't belong, treehouse has always been about these age-range of shows. But MLP is the odd show out in this case, for sure. As far as I know, they only ever show up to the 1st half of season 1 anyways.<br /><br />YTV would be a much better choice, or Teletoon (american channel we get).<br /><br />Anyways, it must be killing Hasbro that they are forcing so many potential buyers into piracy, where they get nothing. I sure hope a solution happens soon. The world is getting smaller and smaller, and its time to tear down these ridiculous legal borders.Greenie-Piehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08734981514784845922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-87940966706100001942012-01-11T05:50:16.277-07:002012-01-11T05:50:16.277-07:00Yes, in the UK for instance, I have Freesat. The m...Yes, in the UK for instance, I have Freesat. The minimum sky contract I'd need to get Boomerang is £20/month. For that, to get just season 1 episodes 1-13 on endless repeat, in standard definition with adverts in an ntsc->pal conversion. yeah, not a value proposition.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06378739614733672501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-4951881156303664422012-01-11T05:37:32.918-07:002012-01-11T05:37:32.918-07:00It's bad business to limit your market like th...It's bad business to limit your market like they've done.<br /><br />In the UK MLP airs on pay TV. Half the people in the UK have free-to-air TV, they'd have to buy new technology and then subscribe in order to watch MLP legally. None of which would benefit Hasbro directly.<br /><br />Hasbro could have sold us those episodes direct, making a profit on each and demonstrating the value of the show to TV channels. They'd probably have got a free-to-air channel interested despite the presence of downloads and DVD's and would have ended up with twice the exposure they currently have.Ceorlichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681060913061738237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-48251047893670880472012-01-11T04:07:49.329-07:002012-01-11T04:07:49.329-07:00And yeah i did the silly dance to buy from us-itun...And yeah i did the silly dance to buy from us-itunes, to ensure my supply of pony as other sources disappear or become uncertain. But it doesn't stop it being silly, and of course it subtracts from a future uk-itunes sales figure.<br /><br />It is odd; I've never been a regular downloader, preferring itunes or rent or purchase of dvds and blurays, but I've also never felt so motivated to monetarily support a show i liked before, and now it's happened, it's weirdly made so difficult for me to do so.<br /><br />I guess, also, it may be the first time i've come across a show I liked that much that seemed to *need* such an expression of support. It has a kind of fragility about it, *because* we're not the target market I suppose, *because* it's always been so proverbially awful, and they *should* be rewarded for making it good...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06378739614733672501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-6315126931747556292012-01-11T03:54:37.972-07:002012-01-11T03:54:37.972-07:00So basically, outdated, pre-internet-style distrib...So basically, outdated, pre-internet-style distribution contracts are costing them money by rendering them unable to respond to a commercial opportunity.<br /><br />I hope they learn the lesson.<br /><br />I hope the lesson they learn isn't "don't make good tv shows, they only show up problems with our antiquated business model".<br /><br />But yeah, I guess they're stuck in a situation where piracy is literally the only way a large portion of their willing-to-pay fanbase can get content. Or the silly dance to buy from us-itunes.<br /><br />Can't contracts be renegotiated?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06378739614733672501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-25814028511611503352012-01-11T03:46:04.544-07:002012-01-11T03:46:04.544-07:00I fear that when (or if) we got a DVD release wher...I fear that when (or if) we got a DVD release where I live it won't contain the original language - but I guess that will have to wait some time, since the channel that apparently have the rights to the show here haven't begun showing it yet...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-72768391713297727532012-01-11T03:33:43.722-07:002012-01-11T03:33:43.722-07:00I thought it may have had to do something with tha...I thought it may have had to do something with that. Oh well will carry on watching the episodes on YouTube until they can release it officially.Agile Wingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13596759399437539398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-85723938211008607422012-01-11T03:26:13.925-07:002012-01-11T03:26:13.925-07:00Maybe us Aussie bronies should petition ABC3 to pi...Maybe us Aussie bronies should petition ABC3 to pick up MLP? They suprised me by showing Avengers:EMH just months after it aired in the US, so maybe they'll do the same here?<br />The commercial networks seem pretty unlikely to show MLP at this point. Unless by some miracle it somehow gets noticed as doing 'well' on the cable network it's currently aired on.RainbowLeader 510https://www.blogger.com/profile/06855182348278625798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-91891396677588368932012-01-11T03:06:59.080-07:002012-01-11T03:06:59.080-07:00I'm okay with this: patience is one of my most...I'm okay with this: patience is one of my most practiced virtues.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00281262892398422317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1865775941337421610.post-3634804193298986642012-01-11T02:18:38.306-07:002012-01-11T02:18:38.306-07:00I totally understand this legal text they've w...I totally understand this legal text they've written to be applied to countries they've already sold their rights to, but how come I don't have any legal option to watch the show over the internet neither by watching it in the TV.Legedenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08493754991697038218noreply@blogger.com