@Kim Rather, I'd see nothing wrong with executing murderers or other capital offenders, or if necessary in self defense, but I do not ever want to see an innocent person die.
You have the most fascinating rants. Mine are short and not interesting to anyone but myself.
My word, you folks burn through pages faster than a fire wraith in a paper factory. It's quite impressive, I can see how you have over 10k comments now.
News everyone! I might have figured out what I causing my fucking headache and wooziness: Lack of proper air. It became kinda clear to me after my dad had stood with the front door open and smoked, then went inside directly once done. Causing my room to be severely polluted during the whole time, making it painful to breathe, as well as give freaking head pains similar to those in period rank. Hope trying to get some air in works.
@Overlong Analysis Cobalt That comparison somehow related me to how stupid a steady damage system would be for the FoE-RPG.
And I think I understood what that part meant. (And let me just say I was the only one not high. And they got the idea of the "kind" of baking from that rather odd book that uses a certain male bodily fluid as an ingredient, but since this was a "girls night", just think of the counterpart, and that's pretty much what happened. I'm quite sure I was suffering from dehydration that day, especially with how little I eat and drink. Anyhow, I've already mentioned quite enough TMI, this is not the place to discuss these kind of things, bad brain.
@Ketchup: Yeah, I don't want to see innocents die, but I don't mind seeing bad guys die. Speaking of which, I got my knife back! :P
Anyway; Thank you for both of the compliments =3 I used to have an original GOW1 shirt, but it's gone missing a long time ago. and thanks for the cupcakes compliment. usually my baking goes wrong somewhere, but this time it was PERFECT.
@Kim I get headaches from sitting near the smokers and stoners in my classes (they are IMPOSSIBLE to avoid) and to think that the school takes pride in being "tobacco free". I think it would be even creepier if the "certain male bodily fluid" was blood or spinal fluid, and not what you are implying. Grats on the knife... I guess?
@Kippershy I used to sit beside someone in Eighth grade who had Gears of War pajamas, and he wore them to school. My best friend had a very similar Halo 3 pair that he wore all the time, I don't know if he wore them to school though, since he got kicked out of the school I went to. I solicit with a lot of delinquents, despite not being one.
@Stephen Cawking Umm... yeah, normal people do that... suuuuure...
That depends on the quality of the prereading :) 7k words, Luna x human Give some private contact, randomblank at derpymail.org if you don't want to post it here.
@ketchup504 Improper grammar and flawed writing are against my morality (well... against my aesthetics, anyway), but I'm also super busy for pretty much the entire immediately foreseeable future. Um, not that your story's got improper grammar or flawed writing, Random, I haven't read it so I don't know.
@Stephen Cawking That is a concern of mine; "Liking" something on Facebook that could get me fired.
Link to asian porn: coworkers are down with that. Link to Scootaloo clop: FIRED!
You are right though: we need to all be honest. We all watch porn. I am not ashamed. Would be very uncomfortable for your Dad to comment on a video you shared on your wall "ya know Stephen, under the right light, she kind of looks like your sister."
you know what? I use a secure connection for facebook and I do not allow certain people to see certain posts, and then I also don't put coworkers on my facebook, and chickens...
@Overlong Analysis Cobalt Morality was not a proper term for that, It would go against my values, I suppose.
@Nuhvok01 Having a secret and being honest are two different things, and you are right, I think a situation along those lines would be VERY uncomfortable. ...
Alrighty then, I suggest a new topic. Although, as usual, I don't have one. Lame, eh?
@ketchup504 How about silly stories? I've got a good one.
A couple weeks ago, I was at work, minding my own business, going across the building to complete my next task, when I see one of my supervisors walking towards the elevator.
Being deliciously evil, I quietly snuck up behind him and waited. Then, when the elevator door opened, I shouted "HI!" in the loudest, best impression of Pinkie Pie I could muster.
Dude, My high school english teacher had us read "Brave New World".
To sum it up: Babies get mass produced in towering assembly lines and get conditioned chemically, physically, and mentally from fetus to young adult so that they range anywhere from Alpha Superior to epsilon semi-retard. A well known childrens game that gets played everywhere is called Orgy-Porgy and is exactly what you think it is. A super drug was created that induced absolute bliss, had no long term side effects, and was used for everything from recreational use to crowd control. The civilization as a whole worships Gerald Ford as a God and cut the tops off of every cross so they would be giant T's in praise of Ford's Model T. The only groups of people who have morals and still worship Christianity are considered savages and are inclosed in huge reserves surrounded by 10 foot tall lethal electrical fences. All progress has pretty much stopped and only the status-quot is kept. and the whole world is about ten times worse than what I just described.
Makes the FOE world sound a bit more appealing, doesn't it?
As for new topics, and touching on Jacky's religion quote, I wonder what the various religions are in FOE:PH. I mean, we've got the Fell Choir, The Goddess, The (unknowingly expired) Godesses, Steel Rangers have a Technology Idol, The Pilgrimage (although Priest is dead now I guess), the Raiders have the Reapers, the Zebras have the Stars. Am I missing anything/one/being?
It made a hell of a lot more sense back when it was written. which was sometime between WWI and the great depression and was a satire on what the author thought was the direction the world was heading. I believe it was either my Junior or Senior year when I read it. I don't quite remember, I been out of high school for over three years now and I had the same english teacher throughout highschool. He also had us read Fahrenheit 451, basically in that story, if you owned any form of published literature, a group of firemen would come to your house, burn it down, and send you off to the happy farm, never to heard from again.
@theBSDude Good, then maybe you could explain it better than me.
@Luminous Security worships whiskey/and or the porcelain throne the morning after, and Little Pip becomes something of a religious figure herself by stories end. Hmm wonder if years down the line she will start hearing prayers directed to her or eventually some clever little stable filly using her name in nearly poetically creative vulgarity.
@Jacky2734 Ah yes, the US' Great Depression. I suppose distopia camouflaged within 'futuristic utopia' could indeed be a clever way of trolling during that period.
That second book seems interesting and makes a bit more sense, to be certain.
@ketchup504 It's not Bradbury's best work by any means, but it's not a bad read. I really recommend his horror anthology "The October Country" - I read it in third or fourth grade, and, looking back, it's entirely possible that it was at least partially responsible for me turning out how I did. Really, really good stuff in there; literary horror, psychological horror, Lovecraftian horror, and a smattering of comedy and drama. Even the weakest story was fantastic.
@Jacky2734 ...Henry Ford. Gerald Ford was the president that tripped over everybody. I'll assume that was just a typo (name-o), though still leave the correction in case anybody who hasn't read it is suddenly confused.
Also, the movie version of Fahrenheit 451 is hilariously bad. I had to read it (for the third time) in high school, and the teacher decided to show the movie without having seen it beforehand. After the first day he semi-apologized to all of us because he had no idea how terrible it was and we couldn't stop laughing at it the entire time. The firetruck looks like a giant plastic scooter and has its own ridiculous theme song, for one thing.
@ketchup504 I just usually take forever to do things, heh - sometimes when it's important and I'm lucky to have enough focus I can do drawings pretty quickly. Also, thank you, sir.
@Kippershy Heh, well I'm very glad you liked it so much, sir. *smiles* I do hope you had a very happy birthday - and I'll be sure to pass on the cupcakes to Boo, she'll be very happy.
@kirbuu I wonder if Security years down will be remembered in weird drinking rituals, say, setting a glass "for her" aside and setting the contents on fire, or maybe the title of Queen Whiskey passed down through the ages in some celebrations, with increasingly fancy whiskey crowns, ultimately towering art forms of glass, filled with finest Wild Pegasus.
Or at least gets commemorated by a whiskey brand named after her.
@Kim If you have a furnace in the house, you might get it checked (or get a carbon monoxide detector). Low-level CO poisoning can cause persistent headaches, among other things.
On a lighter note, have you seen the new blind bag ponies? Check out Fluttershy. Or should I say, Psychoshy?!
Blackjack worshipped as a Dionysus-esque drinking and partying goddess?
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Hell yes!
I can totally picture future wastelanders / tribals trying to invoke the protection of Queen Whiskey by leaving a shot of Wild Pegasus outside their camp at night. Or
had a thought, it was one of those funny stories, but then I forgot it.
although I did manage to sneak up on one of the waitresses at work and scare the daylights out of her... just kinda went "AHH!" as she made eye contact with me, not knowing I was behind her and she screamed for a good I dunno 5 seconds...at about 3 seconds I proceeded to hover my palm over her mouth then she stopped...
Heh, I generally look scary. I don't start with scaring people, though appearing from behind a corner I elicited a scared yelp at least two times. But one time there were two kids walking some way ahead of me. One looks back, talks to the other, the other looks back, then they start running. So, I began running too. They looked back. The screams! The speed!
@WaffleSmart To be fair, they were pretty much savages. Brave New World did not cast Christianity in a very good light, unless you're into self-flagellation. Hell, it even drew a symbolic link between ritualistic orgy and Christian ritualism.
I'm sorry, everyone. I really hoped... really wanted... to get 39 done. I think that I'm starting to suffer from burnout. It's not the lack of ideas. I know what needs to happen next in the story it's just... sigh. I need to move things along. Originally 35,36,37,38,and 39 were all supposed to be one chapter. Just... one... and now they're 160 pages.
I'm sorry. I'm not going to quit. I'm not going to try and slow down. I need to push through and finish before I'm on chapter 80...
I wonder if this is how Jordan felt when it got to WoT book nine... ugggh...
@Random Blank And I simply scare everyone in my house by just walking somewhere...apparently I picked some Sneak perk at some point...and they presented me a bell, on rope...so I will make some noise, while walking.
I really don't have the right to tell you how to write your story, but I think you should not try to push through a burnout.
The last thing I would want, if I were in your position, is to produce something you aren't satisfied with. Working on in spite of a lack of motivation means taking that risk.
We're only just at the beginning of 'book two.' So it isn't too late to say that you need a break before continuing. Even if it's just for a month or even a week.
Slowing down might actually make it easier to condense things a little bit, by rethinking what needs to go in and what can be cut out.
oh you know what, I do have a sneak story. I was up at a friends house for the night, they have this old rickety wooden floor, she said its impossible to sneak around her house because of this old creaky floor. The irony, She says this,
"I hear you wandering around *clomp clomp* on one side of the house, then suddenly *silence*. Its like you're not there at all. I call out 'Alex?' and you're right on the complete opposite side of me the other side of the House, right where you should not have been, merely moments before you were on the other side of the house. And you say 'What?' scaring me so badly, because i did not know you were there, I drop my knife. 'How did you do that?' I scream."
Honestly, it is loud to walk around her house... but I apparently do this all the time. Her at the time boyfriend said I would likely have gotten stabbed if it were him. ;)
Hey, I know this is my first post here; heck, I only just started reading FIM fan-fiction about a month ago, and have only recently finished reading 38, but from someone who both works in the medical field AND loves your story; Please don't feel compelled to "push through" your burnout. No one blames you for needing to take a breather (or, rather, no one whose opinion means a damn). Any true fan of Project Horizons will understand the needs of the author.
Seriously, though, Somber... for such a talented writer, you seem to have some self-esteem issues... not that I'm trying to nitpick, but I have noticed that you do a lot of apologizing.
The reason I bring this up is because I get the impression that you feel as though you owe us something... and you don't. Really. It always gets my goat when I see self-entitled internet users who get all bent-out-of-shape because, say, the author needs some time to rest between chapters.
The fact is; this is a free service. You aren't getting paid to write this, nor are your readers paying to read it. This gives you the right to write at your own, comfortable pace. This means you can effect the story however you see fit. Most importantly, this means you have the right to produce the story the way you want to.
@Somber Just take as long as you need. Personally I wouldn't push through it. Although those 150 pages were meant to be one chapter, what would we have lost along the way? Probably a lot if the more personal dynamics which make this story so good. There's nothing wrong with slowing down a bit- trying to get a chapter of your typical size out every week is a simply Herculean endeavour. You certainly won't lose readers if this does reach 80 chapters but the quality is consistent with your current work.
@Stephen: Mayhaps, but I still see it as kinda iffy to share such details heh.
And yeah, sadly I can immagine the tweets xD 14:31 "Got a Twilight toy today!" [picture] 14:37 "Just got on ponibooru/e621, gonna do some cloppin'" 14:56 "Man, just squirted all over Twilight, it was amazing" [picture] 15:05 "Giving my Twilight a bath, gonna comb her mane in a few" 15:09 "Brushy, brushy. Good as new" Or something, I dunno. And yay, I have an awful knack for derailing stuff xD (And yeah, I understood that ;P)
@Ketchup: Hate people like that. As well as their logic of "shove a stick up your ass till it stops hurting or becomes numb enough that you don't feel it!" (basically the logic of smoking/drinking. No-one likes it at first, you "get used to it". And like said, why'd I want to get used to having a stick shoved up my ass? Let alone: Pay for it? Then you just get to a state where you need it to feel "normal", it gives the impression that you feel better by having you feeling worse when you don't take it. Heck, I get that for free by not eating enough. Anyhow, I don't see how blood or spinal fluid would be "certain male", since I'm quite sure both genders have the same type of those. And yeah, I just feel a bit better knowing I have a more lethal weapon with me then martial arts.
@Random: Would say FiMchan, I think the name was. They have a few proofreader threads you post your stuff in. (since don't post it seperately, just find a proofreader there that takes your type of work)
@Swicked: Mind telling me what is not? I kinda derped out a bit
And unrelated to any of this: Just wana ask your opinion on a kinda gruesome matter. (really, don't read if you dislike/can't stand that stuff, which I kinda doubt as you are reading PH xP) Some whiles ago I saw a sexual gore (?) pic, basically male dragon, female pony, big size difference. Where she more or less got "impaled"/semi-torn apart. (blood was involved) And among the usual comments of mixed opinions, there was someone that asked what a possible follow up/revenge pic could be. (or reversed roles) And my reply was "Possibly poke/stab some holes in it with her horn, then use raw telikinitec pressure to crush/compress it to a more "suitable" size for her. And apparently, quite a few thought this was "way out of proportion" or "totally not the same/equal punishment". What do you guys think? (and as for "reversed roles", I just went with my standard "ruptured erectile tissue through twisting". Also however noticed it could turn rather gory depending how strong vaginal muscles said female would have.) (Or wait, is this to related to the non-con topic? And if so, is this to soon?) ->
And more unrealted, on the topic of fics: Still stuck on my 2 rapefics. My P-21 one I want to keep writing, but I'm out of ideas what to write, but I could put them down smoothly if I had them. And recently started a new fic, trying to write my favorite, "dream" fic. Which has the oposite problem. I want to work on it, I know what to write in it for "story", but I completly fail with how to write it. Plus, kinda need motivation for both of them ^^'
@Robored: That sounds a bit like when I snuck up on some friends in the middle of the night, jumped from behind a wall and shouted "SNEAK ATTACK!" xP
@Jacky: That sounds like a very odd book. Yet kinda interesting.
@Silent: Hum.. not that I know. And I saw them, got a smug grin on "Lyra Heartstrings", (mainly since of the "only canon info" pony site) I was one of the first in the discussion "Lyra VS Heartstrings" to point out it could be a double name.
@Random: When have I ever said I am in a healthy condition? ;P
@Somber: I know that feeling, pretty much a constant state of mine heh.. I know what will happen, just have to formulate it properly. And Somber, don't aim for burnout's, you know what happened to Pip, she couldn't magic for days.
@PonyParadox: Actually, Somber is getting donations, so she feels compelled to do it, she is technically getting paid to write.
And also: Wow, I am in much worse shape then I thought. I went out dashing to a place to help with some stuff, after just running ~250 meters straight, I almost passed out, vision was blurry, and I could barely breathe or stand. I am not in a very brand condition... and heh, it wheezes when I breathe xD
@Kim I know that those two fluids are indeed common between sexes, but in order to obtain them, from a male or female, bodily harm must take place, especially spinal fluid. And one might take irrational pleasure in using one from the opposite sex. That would make it creepy.
It's rather two fold... First, I've been writing this for eight months now. It's huge. Much longer than I ever imagined. And more than anything else I want to finish so that from begining to end I've got the story done. I'm terrified that if I get a teaching job... that's it. I'll never get finished. Taking a month off is 4 chapters not updated.
The other reason is people donate to keep this story going and when I fail to produce then it feels like I'm getting in a very dangerous place. So if I can't write anymore then I'm doubly screwed.
I was the story finished. I want it to be awesome. Some folks have been reading since July, when I started. I just don't want this to end up 'Oh, another somber story that never got finished...'
I just gone done eating at a restaurant and was about to go pay my bill when a guy I've never met, heard of, am pretty sure doesn't know anybody I know, and will probably never meet again pulls me to the side and tells me he's paying for my lunch. He wouldn't except no for an answer and tells me I'll be doing him a favor by allowing him to pay for lunch. What are the odds?
All of these random headaches, pains, pressures and deliriums are starting to sound an awful lot like a brain tumor. What does your doctor say about them?
I think I saw that dragon pic. Wasn't it Celestia instructing said dragon? In that case, directing the revenge at only the dragon wouldn't be justice, no.
@Somber Hey, I posted this earlier, but it was lost. First off, this fic is amazing. But what if non-bronies want to enjoy it also? II propose giving me the task of rewriting it as humans. I know it sounds sstupid at first, but I already have chapter 1 down as a sample. Just message me about it?
Hey somber, if you need to slow down, then slowdown, just don't stop and don't call it a break... try devoting I dunno maybe a little less time a day than you normally do for this fiction. We want to support you as best we can, I agree the only thing you can do against burnout is push against it. Not as hard as you've been pushing, but you must continue if you wnat to climb that mountain. when you've reached the top, you can say I did this!
@Somber I understand your frustration, but please don't try to power through just to reach the end. Few things are more disappointing than investing a huge chuck of time reading a story, only for it to end abruptly.
@Random Blank "clopfoc" I know this fandom is all about tolerance and whatnot, but for some reason this really rustles my jimmies
@Somber I too have a problem with not finishing my stories, I can totally relate, I can only hope you can find the inspiration to continue soon! I don't know what I'd do wothout another chapter of your story to read every week!
@Rawrthedinosaurpony I see what you're thinking, I've thought about Kkat humanifying her story and getting it published once, but if you think about it, the story really wouldn't be as good. It was originally written to be about animals, you can't just replace every "pony" with "person" and call it a day. The whole point is that the ponies didn't know what war was like, they were peaceful and innocent, and had no idea what they were doing... I can go on and on about how the the main characters are animals for more reasons than just being funny. Also, I think it would be kind of offensive to edit Kkat's or Sombers story like that.
How much water you drinking? Average human needs 1000ml (~32 oz) of water a day, but twice that is a good idea. Also, juice only counts fir like, 3/4 volume.
@Somber Well, don't rush too much, or the story will end in "A bomb exploded and killed everypony. Fin." or something like that next chapter. You should take your time. I'm sure you can pull through such a dilemma.
@WaffleSmart It sure is good that we can choose what we love and tolerate, otherwise, I'd go insane.
@Somber *hugs Somber* Things take as long as they take, sir - that goes both for writing and the story itself. Just try your best, but please don't push yourself too hard.
Also, sir, please don't let my obsession with Boo unjustly influence what you have planned. I mean, don't expect me not to bawl my head off when she dies - but I've accepted that it's entirely likely, and can think off-hand of 5 different situations that would result in her death. So please don't pay me any mind, and just do what you do best.
@Somber *hugs again* If you were able to get a job, so that you actually had some stability (dare I say, even be able to live on your own, by some chance), I would gladly accept waiting longer for chapters. Although I do love this story (and all the stories you've written), I've donated to keep you going, sir.
@about filly-Boo Alright, I know I said it would be the next thing I'd draw, after I finished my huge project. But I haven't finished the huge project yet... and then three different things suddenly sprang up that I had to draw something for immediately. *rubs forehead* So yes... I'll get to it right soon. In the mean-time, Boo is doing her best to prepare to be cute.
@WaffleSmart I can understand you - "these are just innocent ponies". Well, for me they are more, and the story is primarily a drama and romance leading up to a bittersweet ending, spiced up with (admittedly, graphic) erotica where it naturally belongs. I don't do cheap porn, trust me.
But I admit my sexuality is quite "off standard" so I understand many people might find the idea of sexualizing the ponies repulsive. So, each to their own, I'm not insisting on you reading it, you put that pitchfork away...
and re:Rawrthedinosaurpony Yeah, try explaining what's so special and unusual about Blackjack's new cyberhands having fingers. I think I smell a troll.
@Rawrthedinosaurpony If my friend had never told me about FO:E, I would never have become a Brony. Anyone with the prerequisite of liking Fallout and reading would likely find this enjoyable, even with the ponies. I started more 'normal' pony-related activities after reading 20 chapters to aid in understanding. Now I can't wait for Saturdays.
@Random Blank I do agree with one thing, ponies can be more. People always have assumed that MLP is a childish thing, and from the impression left by the last few gens, they have a good reason to. PH and FO:E are examples of a 'childish' thing turned into a work of art. Granted, it took the help of an excellent game to happen, but it did.
And, for some, I suppose 'clops' are another way of making 'art', if it's your preference. I personally find Clops repulsive, I don't even read dedicated Ships.
@blank Just to throw in my two cents, while I don't like romance (personal preference) I can completely understand the attraction to these personalities. I just can't imagine these marshmallow ponies as sexual beings. Enough authors see fit to humanize the ponies for the clop fic, though. Are you doing that for your fic?
@Somber ♪ Sounds like somepony needs a huuuugggg...♪
35-39 being all one chapter? Damn that would've been a big chapter (assuming all text was intact, of course). And 80 chapters total!? *brainsplode* I expected this to go to about 50-60.
You just gotta be careful of those whose first inclination is to inflict physical harm.
@Kim Sometimes I like to jump out and scream "NINJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!" (which ironically is the complete opposite of what a ninja would do, but it's fun nonetheless.)
@Somber Ah, July. So that's when this whole thing started...
@WavemasterRyx I saw that earlier this morning. I d'awwed.
I admit, I too will be sad if she is gone.
@ketchup504 Hmmm...Ghost Boo may have the potential for even cuter and physics-breaking antics...
@ketchup504 Ooooh, there's an idea for a topic: "How did you become a brony?"
Happened to me back in August. By this point in time, I had only been vaguely aware of MLP, and wasn't even aware that the current series was relatively brand new. I had seen various images from the show captioned with current memes and silly stuff potentially relating to the image at hand. I pretty much paid in no mind and put it under the pretense of "people will meme-itize/caption anything nowadays if it amuses them". I had also once seen a video of a modified Portal 2 game with a "Pinkie Sphere", which I found pretty amusing.
The turning point came one day when I visited another usual hangout of mine, Jalopnik. There were already a handful of users there in the off-topic section who gave occasional use to the captioned MLP images. But one day, one of them decided to post a link to a youtube video that contained the entirety of Season 1. (I don't remember for certain which user, but I strongly suspect it was the one calling himself "RainbowDash".) So I figured, "Eh. If there's this many guys obsessed over it and making all of this funny business on the internet, I guess it can't be that bad". So I clicked the link, watched the first few episodes, and was like, "Wow, this is actually pretty good!".
Anyways, I was hooked. I spent the next few days working though the video. Interest was magnified when I found out that a bunch of the people who worked on the show also had worked on some of my other all-time favorite cartoons (Ed Edd n Eddy being a particular).
@RoboRed If you want to know of another 'kid's show' turned meme look up Adventure Time. Damn, it is messed up. But it is funny, and that guy that voiced Bender voices a main character, a shape-shifting dog. I think the name is John DiMaggio.
Yep. John DiMaggio voices Jake the Dog, Bender from Futurama, and Marcus Fenix from Gears of War.
Adventure Time isn't all that bad. I never really watched it that much because it was always on when I was either at work or class. And I hardly watch the TV at all now.
Regular Show and Amazing World of Gumball are also pretty good.
@Somber It is becoming increasingly unlikely that you will finish writing before the 18th month after you started. You only have two things to fear: Fear itself, (don't let fear control you,) and your steadily increasing writing talent and ability. You are completely capable of dealing with the above and everything else.
Completely unrelated, but does anyone have the number on Pinkie Pie's party planning service? You can never start planing for an anniversary party too soon.
Yep, 'Industrialization' goes to whole new levels here, from alphas to gammas, still, i wouldn't sacrifice the entire concept of 'future' for soma and... 'that' life. to me, ignorance to a certain extent isn't a life. At least FOE *has* a future =D still, fallout is still a hell of a fine-line. interesting discussion!
well... to add to the religious conatations (and biblical links), probably the entire concept of fallout and how it's brought forth in the games. heroes in armor, great evils though cannon for stories when applied in the original fallout stories has some awry comparable points. big topics, just throwing it out there. like your point =D
Hey, HEY! Don't beat yourself up, not over your fans cries for updates (we always do that because we're spoiled by you and your great works =D) you've been doing amazing, nothing less, you got sick and that's not your fault. and about a chapter that got bigger then one? well, HEY, it's better to have such important parts of the plot come into their own schedule (and ordained by YOU), i never thought it was slow, i never thought it needed to 'pick up'. quality has always been up somewhere above the sky and BJ has gone through things that in my perspective shouldn't be rushed.
We're all giddy at every update but i don't think ANYPONY here would want to whicpcrack you back into work. we care. we can be patient(i think...). we respect your need to take time cause that's part of the learning and writing process.
And the golden rule: Do Not rush the writers! They are the hands that FEED us art!
take care, have fun with what you do and I thank you for this wonderful addition to the Fallout Equestria World, never forget, we all support you!
If somber agrees, i'd be willing to pitch in, I also see how great this is (I'm currently working on a FO:E side-fic of my own =D), turning ponies into humans would definitly allow others to be interested in it but I'd be interested in knowing how you would translate the 'fantasial' parts into 'science', would you change magic into F.E.V. induced psyonics?
Personally I don't have any issues with someone doing clopfick or any other animated/written ogrophy related, i could say my perspectives are also 'off-standard' knowing as i've seen and went from regular, to 'H' (Anime in all forms has changed how i look at things drasticly) and whatever else some curious artist decides to dwell through. Personally, I just think that if quality is there then go right ahead, i haven't really been exploring much of the 'other' stuff produced from mlp but i'd be interested at least.
Well, i couldn't imagine 'marshmallows' being hotty any further then the 'bedroom eyes' (smilled the first time i saw it) but just so you know, there are some really good artists doing the stuff, check up on Deviant Art maker by 'Slugbox' even if you don't 'clop', the art is still amazing.
Hello everybody, would any of you be interested in possibly getting a physical copy of Fallout: Equestria? There's a mass-printing (of a sort) being organised on Facebook here: http://www.facebook.com/groups/FalloutEquestria/
The price will apparently go down if more than 150 people agree to get copies, and the projected cost for the 150 mark is ~$85US.
@medler I really have very little taste for art and I really don't like slug's style at all. I'm much more into the written word. In any case, not really in the mood for looking at nice things, anyway. As horrible as last week was for me in terms of stress and fear, this week might have been worse with its disappointment and depression. When it rains, it pours.
@swicked No, I don't humanize the ponies and I definitely dislike all the "humanized".
But I'm definitely fascinated by the character of Princess Luna and her difficulties with fitting in. So, she was doing her best, and nobody appreciated it. She was feeling lonely and alienated. She reacted badly, and got punished terribly. Then she is back, and... while most things have changed, the essence is still the same: she's lonely, alienated, doing her best and unappreciated. Ouch.
So, she craves for company. But there's no companion for her among the ponies. Instead, she finds one who is already in love with her... a human, a brony.
But a princess of Equestria can't have a human for a mate, this would not be acceptable, and besides, she doesn't find him physically attractive the least bit. So all they have is just one night together, and she warms up to his personality as she gets to know him better.
How can this lead up to hot sex? Why, through Lambda Calculus, duh.
What's to dislike about humanizing them? They are already mentally human, so any further change is just physical. And I don't mean furry half-transformations where they still have hooves and six breasts or whatever. I dunno. Again, it's all just preferences and if you would really like to get it on with an intelligent horse.
@ChaosMedler I'm not a great fan of Slugbox. When it comes to weird/creepy I much prefer CrookedTrees, ECMajor and Iram/Crappyunicorn. When it comes to cute sexy, nothing beats John Joseco's flanks.
@blank You are a very confused individual. How, exactly, do their personalities resemble that which is capable of a horse? They are modeled after humans. Written and voiced by humans. They are mentally idealized humans.
I understand completely; I really just didn't want you to think that you have to push yourself, but in the end, if finishing is what you feel you have to do, then that's what you have to do.
You're right, of course. I certainly wasn't trying to tell Somber to take a break, though I can see that it looks that way. I only wanted to say that he should write at his own pace; incidentally, if that means finishing the story before his head explodes, that's fine.
@somber Honestly, just do your best. I get that its becoming difficult, so just work through it, like you would probably do anyway. More than anything try not to feel too guilty if your best isn't quite what you wish it was. You are a better author now than you were when you started this fic, and you will continue to get better.
@Somber For my part, I send money because I care about you and what happens to you, mate, not as payment for the story. (I'd love to be able to pay for the story as well, mind, but that'd be a mite shady) I don't really have much advice on getting out of a burnout; I generally try to just push on through 'em, one word at a time, and if I'm lucky I regain whatever spark started me writing the story in the first place that way, but my standards are also significantly lower than yours (I also don't have readers, which helps take pressure off considerably =P). I wish you luck, for partially selfish reasons (love the story!), and, for the record, I wouldn't mind a drastically decreased update speed (even a hiatus) if it meant that you got that substitute teaching gig.
@Wavemaster Boo is still cutestbestpony! =D
@The Great Clop Debate Of Our Time (specifically, are intelligent equines the same as ponified humans?) Ooh, ooh, ooh, it sounds like we're about to talk about embodiment! Are we about to talk about embodiment? This is relevant to my interests! It's also relevant to the idea of replacing ponies with humans in the story, naturellement. Magic use in unicorns, for one, changes both physical interactions and how the mind works. (This isn't the extent of my theories and opinions on the issue, just a sample in case it's not actually interesting to other folks)
As for the general concept of clop itself, I... okay, my roommate is speaking in tongues, this is odd... ahem. I'm a kind of stupid about romanticism and romance - it's a weakness - so the "romance" tagged stuff tends to pull at my heartstrings, especially if it's written well. Actual eroticism can work well with that stuff, but I'm not too interested in it for its own sake. /shrug I dunno, I figure people like what they like. Not like I've got room to judge, I've enjoyed listening to some pretty godawful grindcore. =P (For the curious. Don't be curious, it is one minute and twelve seconds of your life you will never get back.)
@swicked Take Celestia. She's absolutely dedicated to her role, a selfless, incorruptible ruler, protective, wise and sensitive. Her nation trusts her limitlessly, not even a shade of dissent, distrust or dislike, and rightly so, because she deserves all of this.
That is precisely the relation of a lead mare to the rest of the herd. She will never act selfishly against the good of the herd, biologically incapable of betrayal, and the herd trusts her completely, following her command without even thinking of questioning them.
Now translate this to ANY human nation/group and ANY human politician/leader.
@Somber Hey, don't be like that, you will re-gain that spark, which you have to write further. Believe me or not, but I know how you feel, just don't stop and don't rush. Write chapter longer time, than usually, but don't stop. I've been there, few month have passed, since I was getting my 'rest from work' and it was hard to start. But, there was one thing that pulled me together and...well...forced me to work - music. Maybe it'll work for you too (not forcing to work, but re-gain that spark and overcome burnout). I don't know do you like this kind of music or not, but this helped me, I hope this will help you too.
"If you were able to get a job, so that you actually had some stability (dare I say, even be able to live on your own, by some chance), I would gladly accept waiting longer for chapters." What he said! Writing this fic should be a hobby, not a job.
I remember listening to it after finishing the Fluttershy Hospital chapter. At the time, I was still on the fence about whether I had the patience to read all of Horizons (especially since it meant having to read all of Fo:E as wel).
That chapter, man. That chapter.
Terminate life support? Y/N
It moved the shit out of me. I didn't cry, like I did at the end of Simply Rarity. Killing the foals was the right thing to do. Hell, technically they weren't even foals anymore, having been alive and conscious for centuries. It just left me feeling angry... empty... just... loss.
That, and playing red light/green light with a giant steel beast, as well as the general atmosphere in the hospital. I had to keep reading.
It seem my comment got eaten by the internet. So here it is again.
Somber@ This is an extended audio clip remove from Mass Effect 3.
Spoiler alert
Extended final conversation with Anderson (Fem Shepard version) http://vulpesetuva.tumblr.com/post/19107540704/because-were-not-all-depressed-enough-one-thing
(If I have post this already than my bad for "spamming the comments". I look the comment up on the comments section and couldn't found it so I just assume it got eaten by internet vampires.)
@ketchup504 ... fair enough point. But my point was kinda a "exclusive" bodily fluid. But I see where you're getting at.
@Jacky: That sounds rather random, but also kind as well... in a rather odd way heh.
@Stephen: She wasn't instructing from what I got to know about it, she was just "assisting" it. If I got it explained properly, the dragon was pretty much either offered to do it, or Celestia offered to aid him with it. But yes, both would need a payback in order for it to "work".
@Radnom: Ah, okies.I know that from experience, posting it in "new threads" is sorta frowned upon. I personally just never found any "writing/editing" help threads ^^'
@TheBS: I'm guessing you're trying to say it would be "kinda equal", or however to put it, "eye for an eye"?
Other post: Hum... think I drink like ½ to 1 litre a day. Sometimes less.
@Swicked: (about fics) Personally, being pansexual (with quite much *cough*dyke*cough* tendencies) I just see them as sentient beings. Like how many of you might see ex: elves, or certain blue things from mass effect xP I'd never be attracted to a rl equiine or animal, but in fantasy, they are fully sentient. And okay sure, different body anatomy would make... "certain tasks" a bit hard, but that is just how you'd have to adjusts some things to apply to their anatomy. It's what's inside, and how they are that counts. For me at least heh.
(Also, they are not "mentally human", technically at least. They have humanoid mental capacity, or whatever to call it. Just like how dwarves are not "mentally human", but still think similarly. Just because they can think, doesn't make them human, it makes them sentient. Or would you say every race in mass effect "thinks human"? They have "inspiration from humans". But really, allot of things are there as animals as well, it's just that sentient creatures can express and rationalize these better.)
@Robo: It's actually quite similar to what my half-orc barbarian-rogue does, doing a rage induced charge, yelling "PELLY BACKSTAB/SMASH!" with her halberd xP
About the clop debate: The pretty much best thing I've read in romance matter, has been "Romance Reports". Think it's been mentioned before thou.
Also, unrelated to anything: I've kinda recently been playing to much Kirby. And it's happy crack. (Anyone who has seen the Jimqusition "National Kirby day" knows what I'm on about) played with my friend yesterday. And we concluded how awesome Crystal Shards for 64 was, it has an epic combination system. And for the wii game, Meta Knight is to swag, he got the swagmobile ability that owns everything,just place a electric charged Kirby on top, use the Meta-Swag, and you win any map that is not a narrow hallway. Also, he got way to much glorification in the movie scenes. Waddle Doo really needed some better personality, I mean, he didn't even get a voice, the poor guy. Dedede was just bein' Pimp as always, going "*King Dedede noise*" and swinging his hammer around. Kirby was... Kirby, and Meta Knight was pretty much "Man... this blanket is SO DAMN cozy...", "You can tell on my expression I am so exited right now..." and "I'M THE GOD DAMN META KNIGHT! MY BLADE DEFLECTS THE POWER OF GODS!" despite that, I still love the little bugger xP And I really have to complete the Crystal shards...but it's so damn hard xD
@Kim >>. It's what's inside, and how they are that counts.
I know what you meant but I still LOLd at how that can be understood.
Anyway, ponies being human - um,nope. For me, looking at their social habits, they are right halfway between humans and sentient equines - I'd say, not even regularly halfway, but depending on episode=writer. Sometimes they are written in entirely human way, quarrelsome, sophisticated, sneaky and insensitive, sometimes they are very equine in extreme level of bond(friendship), deep empathy, acting instinctively under stress, being quick to forgive and forget minor faults while holding major grudges forever, and many other features very characteristic to horse psyche.
@Random Blank Dude, I got like, 9 ranks in having people misinterpreter me xD
But yeah, as said, we think things are "human", since it's all we know and can "personally" relate to. They have a vitally different way of living compared to us, technically, so does ex: elves or krogans (no idea if that last is spelled right xP)
@Stephen: I won't lie, RR (and a few of the very rare "spa" fics) has been the few that has got... "blood flowing" to put it oddly xP They could be clopped to, but... at the same time, it felt to good to clop to. It's like cracking open anything really new and expensive... you WANT to "play" with it, but at the same time... you'd just make it dirty xP So yeah, it was awesome, but at the same time, I thought it was a bit to good to "ruin the moment" with xD
@Random Blank If only sentient horses existed, or any other sentient life form we could communicate with. That would be so... cool. Besides, other sentients should exist, in all probability, somewhere else.
Reminds me of the ST:DS9 episode If Wishes Were Horses, where a race of telepathic, non-corporeal beings manifest themselves as images from the wishes or dreams of the life forms they encounter.
@Derpmind *Twilight lecture glasses* Well, life appeared on Earth practically as soon as the proteins were capable of holding together, once the Late Heavy Bombardment stopped pasting the planet with a mass-extinction class impact every hundred years or so. So that's good news in the life department -- keeping in mind that we only have one data point to work from, life seems likely to appear in any environment that can support it.
Intelligent life is a far bigger dice roll. The vast majority of Earth's history was spent in unicellular mode, and intelligence didn't arise for most of the multicellular period, either. So it seems likely to be fairly rare compared to life-bearing worlds. It's an amazing survival mechanism once developed, but it's biologically expensive to work up to.
My own personal opinion is the scenario I like to call "Stewards of the Universe" -- that life is common but intelligence vanishingly rare, and humanity should feel free to harvest the bounty of the universe without worrying about intelligences that will probably never develop.
(The other scenarios are "All These Worlds Are Yours", a largely lifeless universe where there's little reason not to strip-mine everything that can't be terraformed, and "The Galactic Community", where intelligence is common and habitable worlds probably have natives already.)
As for FTL, it's... unlikely, barring some obscenely convoluted twist of physics that we've somehow overlooked to this point. General Relativity pretty much guarantees that any form of FTL communication is equivalent to time travel, which destroys all physics forever.
@silentcarto Sadly (as Rum stated) humans are EXTREMELY stupid and destructive. We've wiped out countless species and natural resources just since we were lazy or cba to check it. The Dodo got killed since they were cheap to just collect, kill and eat off that one island, somehow they became fewer and fewer as it became a more common stop, and suddenly they just wasn't there any more... and the sailors just didn't know why or how, the last time there were here and killed and ate half of the remaining birds, there was still 20 left... so yeah, as said, we either realize something got fucked up by us after it's destroyed, or when it's on the brink of collapse.
So even thou I'd want to see another sentient race, I don't think humans would handle it well. At least not currently.
There's one more option rather viable: intelligent life, as rare as it is, is not unique to Earth, and occurred elsewhere as well. They happened earlier, and had hundreds of thousands of years of civilization development, as opposed to our ~4000. They didn't overcome the speed of light limit so they didn't spread into our area of the galaxy (or maybe they did, and they are a thousand galaxies away, they could arrive here within seconds if they only knew there is intelligent life here), and specifically decided that a single monolithic civilization, a single uniform body is ultimately vulnerable (maybe they found ruins of a prior one).
The key to survival is diversity, a wildly wide one. So they engineered themselves into a wide variety of species, settling different planets and often loosening bonds between each other - full variety, galactic empires and lonely colonies, spread far and wide, developing independently, sometimes trading technology and inventions, sometimes depending on their own. Some might have even quite regressed civilizationally - that's okay, as long as diversity remains.
From time to time they find other lifeforms, sometimes intelligent. The contacts are just as diverse as them, ranging from conquer&burn through friendship to completely ignoring the "aliens". Any group of them may discover Earth at any time.
...Some of more extreme "diversifists" decided a marshmallowy equine form with inborn physics-bending powers would be a good idea...
Say what you want, I find the idea that it would be humans who would discover the others first, that humans would be the more advanced ones, or even that the humans would be the first discovered by the aliens seems very arrogant to me. The time of our civilization is so short in the galactic scale, that if ever any other sprouted, the likehood that it's vastly older and more advanced than ours, as opposed to "similar" or "less advanced" is enormous.
@Random Blank Yeah, I don't really see humans as the first race to make contact. That, and I wouldn't trust other races to much either. I could quite easily see them being aggressive.
And meh... I just sat and stared into space for 10 minutes, not knowing what I was doing, derp.
Also, anyone that is proofreading my story, I know I haven't checked it yet, but I've actually added 2 new scenes. And I will check the correction things once finished with those... then after that, I will try to fix that last test part.
Totally unrelated to anything (AND TMI) but: Hum... is it odd my current "zen" state of writing is: naked, gecko on shoulder, with quite loud pony music in headphones, while eating an apple and driking juice with a straw? xD
You're implying that humans are any worse than any other type of animal. Entire species are often killed of by their natural predator, humans aren't the first species to kill off another. This happens naturally in nature, the superior creature wins.
The problem is that we're SO superior to every other species. By I don't mean that human life is any more valuable than that of any other species. I mean that we're A LOT better at survival. So much so that we risk driving every other species to extinction. I think that the fact that we're aware that we're driving these species to extinction, and are trying to prevent it, makes us a lot smarter than most other species on the planet. Let's not start a "human hating" conversation, it's the worst type of internet discussion.
@Kim Okay, first? I refuse to feel guilty for outcompeting a rival species before my own discovered agriculture.
Second, The word 'steward' implies taking care of your surroundings. Life is worth protecting (as Sweetie Bot reminds us), but at the same time, there's not much point in tip-toeing around a planet full of microbial soup until its star burns out.
Third, yes, most cultures prior to the 20th century didn't even have a concept of environmentalism, much less try to preserve particular species. But we learned from that lesson. Again, I refuse to feel guilty over the actions of people who died over a century ago. We're trying to do better now, and that's what counts.
@Derpmind Our understanding of physics isn't complete, but we've sketched in all the big chunks.
It's more like focusing a telescope than putting together a puzzle; Newton's laws of motion and the Chemical Revolution explained the universe adequately at human scales of size and time and conventional speeds. Bohr's atomic model and relativistic physics explained things more correctly at extremely large and small scales and at high energies, but the older versions are still correct within their limitations. Quantum physics sharpened the picture yet further, but it still reduces to Newtonian physics when you average out all the subatomic wobbling.
Further advances will yield even 'more correct' solutions, but the improvements will come in the form of exceptions and caveats, not invalidating a previous model.
39 is coming along. I can't speak for Somber, but hopefully it should be set for release on saturday or, with some luck, perhaps thursday or friday, depending on editor availability.
On that note, please don't bug Somber for chapters. He's just gotten over an illness and is already working very hard; please let him get things done at his own pace.
@WaffleSmart Yes, it's "happened before", but we don't do it for survival in many times, we just do it for "it's easier". Like with the Dodo, or ex: killing ~30 elephants just for the tusks, not using any of the meat. We waste animals, so we're not doing it "naturally". Plus, no animal has so far used atomic bombs or ruined soil or vegetation quite like us.
But yeah, we can take another topic.
@Kipper: Gecko's are the soft. And if I can get ~5 more people to admit my gecko as a deity, I have right by law to make it a religion xD
@Silent: I'm quite sure our ancestors did way worse things than just "out-compete" them, if you know what I'm saying...
And yeah, there's no point tip toeing, but completely ignoring everything for purpose of personal comfort is not a good way to go on about it with the "why should I care? that's my children's children's problem, I won't be alive then.". Humans have very easy to aim for extremely short term gains. Take rain forests, the soil is useless to grow on, but it can be done for a few years, then it is completely ruined. What do we do? Take the few years since it currently saves us time and money. Similar was with trash. We COULD recycle, but much more easy to just pile it up. Then when the junk-yards became gargantuan, then we started going "Hm... maybe stacking the garbage doesn't work for 100 years after all...".
And oh, I am not feeling guilty over it, I am just going "Sigh... humans..." up until very recently, we haven't been a to good example of a species. And do note it's just a quite big quotation sign on the "we have learned/doing better now". Tbh, I don't have the best faith in humans, but it seems to finally might be turning around.
Unrelated to any of this, and a dumb thing to even mention but: On a scale of 1-10, how stupid is it even of me to even consider pulling a "Glory" on Somber? I know there's no way to do one, but it crossed my sleep riddled mind.
Actually, Neanderthals are not completely extinct, as a small amount of humans are descendants of crossbreeding. They may have been stronger and 'dumber', but they were a lot like us 'Wise Men'.
@Kim I presume utter chaos will ensue after we run out of fuel, and my generation will most likely die before the previous one. Transport services will cease to exist for fresh food, so locally grown and produced foods would become the only source. Which, in our society, is a death sentence. We import more food than we produce by a longshot, and none of it would be possible without fuels. Pollution is also a big issue, but we can fix that a lot easier than mass starvation.
2012 won't kill us all, we will. Yippee. Dead before 30.
Furthermore, with our ballooning population in poorer areas, we have more mouths to feed all the time with less farmspace. We will reach a point when we consume more food than there is enough space to produce it. I think we need mass hydroponics facilities, but the 'cost too much'. Greed will kill us all.
Actually, theory suggests that Neanderthals weren't dumber by any means at all - rather, they were more intelligent and less aggressive, but less successful with breeding.
I can't remember my citation now, so I could be utterly wrong. but yeah. apparently they were taller, stronger and smarter, just they didn't breed as often and chance of pregnancy was lower.
@Kippershy Aparently neanderthals were inable to think artisticaly. This means no artwork, stories, etc. Because of this, neanderthals had a much harder time coming up with new inventions, so humans were able to outsmart them with better tools.
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum If you really can't wait, you can always reread older chapters. They don't suddenly stop being entertaining just because you've read them once or a half dozen times. There's also many other Fallout Equestria stories, some of which are very unique.
@silentcarto That analogy is beautiful. I really liked reading it. But by your logic, the Heliocentric theory and the Quantum theory are both pictures of the same thing. They're not. All of these are extremely constrained views. There are just too many known unknowns in physics for me to honestly believe that we're running out of unknown unknowns anytime soon. All (mathematically sound) theories hold true for the imaginary universes they exist in where only their rules apply. I believe that new theories will come along that predict those exceptions, and these new theories will have their own unexplainable exceptions. In other words, I think that every theory is right except everywhere that it's wrong. :P
@Kippershy That's why it is in parentheses. Some theories are that they were dumber, others say they were smarter. We will never know unless we develop time travel or somehow create a Neanderthal. They did lose the evolution race somehow, we don't know where.
I am as aware of the situation as you are. I did not demand a chapter, I expressed a need and desire for one. There is a difference.
For example, "Somber hurry up, I need my fix, get that chapter up fast." Would be a demand.
Saying "I need another chapter" implies nothing of haste or demand, as it is merely an expression of desire.
Don't take me for being ungrateful for his generosity. I recall I've encouraged him to take his time; to cut back a little of the time he dedicates to writing so he can do other things.
Sinus infections are extremely painful, not to mention life threatening if left untreated. Obviously he is still recovering.
Honestly, if you've been lurking, you would be aware of this.
@Derpmind Sort of like mathematics, physics work because we think they do. We create the little theories and 'rules' to follow, yet they might make very little sense to everyone who didn't develop them. Math lesser so, but physics are just the opinions of one or more smart-ish people. An alien species might use a totally different math system, because it make sense to them.
@WaffleSmart Locusts are terribly destructive, but we can stop them. They don't use intelligence to destroy the Earth, they use instinct. They have to do what they do to survive. We destroy the planet for convenience or greed. Or, you are talking about GoW's Locust, who cannot exist due to lack of Hollow Earth evidence. You probably knew that, and were not talking about them, though.
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum We all want another chapter, and Somber knows that. But we can wait, because you guys understand the problems Somber has to deal with. I don't really, but I am patient and content with waiting for another epic chapter in a story of a ridiculous scale. For free. Well, until I can donate, that is. :P
I have considered picking up new stories, however it would trigger a marathon reading session. I really can't afford to dedicate myself to that. You see I don't read a chapter here and there until I catch up. No, I read until I am caught up, forsaking almost everything. I meet my obligations, but everything goes to shit. I mean things are already pretty shitty as it is, so I think I need to hold off on picking up another side story.
All I can do it shine and complain to myself and get super excited with next chapter. Honestly I cannot wait for the ending. I simply must read it.
As far as starting it over, its actually a great thing to do. I love rereading this particular story because like you said something new pops out at you every time. I have been tempted to print out the story, get it duplexed and set in a three ring binder. Only I haven't the ink resources and I am wary of dedicating my stepfather's office resources to this as it would still be costly for them. I am soo tempted, especially since they have white paper with holes already punched in it! how awesome is that?
On to this, I have given some thought and said to myself, when PH is complete, and it will be. If I were to print it, I would try to break it into three "books" I have decided to name them "Security", "Ante Up" and finally "Blackjack". What do you think of these?
@ketchup504 Yeah, and taking that 50 % of earth's population is a "unplanned mistake" doesn't make the situation better.
But yeah, faith in humanity? Not that high xP Kinda doubt I will live long enough to witness the world being fucked up more thou. Or the rarer event it would be fixed. So many miss the "you can't eat money" logic.
And whew... only ~7 % left on my fic now, yay. Althou, I still have to check over all the proofreading and fix that last part of it.
The other side's argument is that those things that, in humans, we call laziness, greed, selfishness, and shortsightedness, is called "instinct" in every other living creature.
@theBSDude That is a fair opinion. But Humans are not all selfish, lazy, greedy, and shortsighted. Take Gandhi, for example, he was none of those. We are easily the most diverse species on the planet, as some groups have different values than another. We call this culture. Animals don't have culture, do they?
Compared to animals, we are more influenced by our thoughts and feelings than we are by our survival instincts, as we meet them easily. We do, as a common rule, practice slight greed and selfishness, because they effect us favorably in most situations. But, most practice neither in excess. We are usually shortsighted due to our inability to accurately predict the future. Not much we can do about that. Laziness is resting when you are not tired. We have no need to work as hard as our ancestors to survive, so we rest until we need to work. Virtually no wild animals can do that. Domestic animals do because we take care of any needs they have, so they don't have to hunt. Usually.
@ketchup504 Well, I don't know about "best", but I'll try my hardest to keep it cute and interesting. As for ghost-Boo, perhaps - I'll just wait and see what happens - last minute plans are best plans heh.
@RoboRed Thank you, sir, and yeah, definitely sad.
@Overlong Analysis Cobalt Thank you, she makes it easy for me to try my best to make her cute somehow, heh.
@silentcarto Hey! Her advice isn't b- No, you're probably right, it would be a terrible idea to follow her advice. Actually about half of the messages to her right now are serious questions, it kinda shocked me, heh.
I do believe I'll stay out of these serious conversations going on, and just post more Boo (and Blackjack).
You mean tying him to a bed, blindfolding, gagging, and then giving him oral till you blow his mind?
@ketchup504 The food problem wouldn't be so bad if people went more for efficiency, and less for BEEF&BACON. A cow eats 12 times its own weight before it's ready to be slaughtered. Humans would be somewhat more picky and wasteful but still going fully vegetarian would easily triple food production of the world with the same land and resource use.
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum Heroes with wings. 3 chapters so far, so not much catching up.
@theBSDude >those things that, in humans, we call laziness, greed, selfishness, and shortsightedness, is called "instinct" in every other living creature.
I agree with laziness. Shortsightedness means we fail to use our brains we so pride ourselves in possessing. Being no better than animals in area which we like to claim we are better in. Selfishness exists with solitary species, but you'd be really surprised how herd species could be "generous" to members of the herd. And greed? What other animal hoards more than they can use? Which will betray the members of own pack, risking the whole group for own profit?
Man, I wish necromancy worked so I could raise up zombie Kropotkin and have him talk about human nature, that'd be so awesome! He'd totally have cool stuff to say about all this, and he'd love MLPFIM.
@Wavemaster Oh my goodness, this may be the fever talking but that comic gives me this amazing feeling of mixed sadness and happiness. Boo is as adorable as ever, but the tragedy of her existence up to being found by Blackjack is so accentuated by her idealized mental image of her... and it's both really sweet and really moving.
@Somber That's great news! You haven't any need to apologize, things happen. Bed sounds like a great idea, too. G'night tout le monde!
@ketchup504 >>We do, as a common rule, practice slight greed and selfishness, because they effect us favorably in most situations.
The problem is not with "a common rule" but with exceptions.
If some biological defect creates a squirrel that doesn't store just enough to survive winter but keeps storing nuts till no more can be found, maybe one fragment of a forest will be affected. But if you take a human who hoards money for the purpose of hoarding money, like most owners of world banks, global tragedies happen, whole countries fall and billions of people suffer due to greed of few. If the current amount of hoarded goods was distributed roughly equally throughout the world population, everyone would be upper-middle class. It's that one rich accumulates goods that make thousands poor.
Or a stallion is born with genetic defect that makes him kill other horses. He will kill how many in his lifetime? 100? As for humans, Hitler?
>>We are usually shortsighted due to our inability to accurately predict the future.
I disagree. We are usually shortsighted due to laziness and comfort of immediate profit. We prefer not to think about future because that may bring uncomfortable thoughts. A person may be marginally aware of risk of global warming, but they still choose to drive three blocks to a gym where they spend a hour on a treadmill. If they paused to think they'd understand the stupidity of their action, but it's not inability, it's laziness - unwillingness to use imagination.
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum I have been lurking, and I'm not trying to suggest that you, or anyone else, is being ungrateful. However, the fact is that you're putting undue pressure on Somber. There's been a few "I need a chapter" or "where's the chapter" posts lately - not just from you - and I think it would be better for everyone if they stopped. That's all.
@Random Blank I know it was BJ, but laser to the face make some scar on it...if I remember thing right (if not, I swear, I will reread all story again). Somber would look pretty badass...or like villain. In every story, someone with scar on the face looks badass or like villain...or badass villain :D
I really like it :) It's a more standard pony feel over Waves cutesy Boo - not that its a bad thing he does her that way, I love her that way, but yeah. gives her more of a normal pony look, which is also great!
@theBSDude Partially, but they are not sentient. That, and an animal wouldn't kill a prey when not hungry, just for the kicks, then leave it to rot. (only like ex: animals in self defence that aren't carnivore or can eat something that big does it)
@Random: Why do you think I just explained it as quotation signs... it's called subtlety/grace xP Also, quite sure there was no gag... or maybe it was removed later.. yeah, that seems kinda plausible.
@Stephen: No, you have to be more imaginative. About everyone BJ meets tries or have shot her in the face or somewhere on her body xP Think deeper, something more "what has only she done"? (random fact, I actually suggested said action like, around 1 thread ago... partially since I wanted one myself at the time heh)And besides, where would I find a laser pistol?
@Katarn: "Scar on face" just makes me think of a certain wizard...
@Rum: I'm pretty sure both methods would accomplish that tbh. Neither would be any good ^^' But yeah... that's pretty much everyday thoughts for me, even thou I know they are bad... or as said, have thought about getting them myself.
Dolphins kill for fun. They also rape and torture.
@Re: rest of discussion
I'm not trying to say that humans aren't wrong to do what they do, or even that they shouldn't be blamed/punished for it. I'm saying it makes sense. I'm saying that human behavior is not evil beyond the ken of nature. All these damaging behaviors obviously worked pretty well for our river-dwelling ancestors, otherwise the behavior wouldn't have been passed on.
Kim hit the nail on the head though: we're sentient, animals aren't. It's a "great power; great responsibility" thing. We can't afford to act just however we want, but when some people give into their base instincts, we shouldn't be surprised. They're merely failing to overcome millennia of breeding.
@theBSDude Dolphins are also highly intelligent for an animal, they also have sex just for fun. Also, did you know a female dolphin have more muscles in their vagina then a well buffed human got in their arm. So yeah, technically they can grapple shit with their genitals... or tear off... dolphins are freaky thou, male dolphins ejaculate sperm in ridiculous speeds, and female ones have super buffed vulva's.
And yes, I will admit it would be sweet to have that much muscles down there, not exactly sure what'd they be good for... apart from like, being able to sit still and just flex a guy off xD ... or lock them in place xD Ah well, can still swag about being endowed xP
@Kim You keep saying "we" as if slash-and-burn agriculture or hunting species to extinction were somehow accepted practices.
@Derpmind It's not the same thing at all. Heliocentrism is demonstrably wrong -- all you have to do is observe the solar system to prove it. It was a nonscientific idea based on religion, not observation.
Newtonian physics, on the other hand, is demonstrably right. We can make ballistic calculations all day long, even explain the motions of the planets and go into orbit ourselves, without ever messing around with relativistic physics.
While it becomes inaccurate at high velocity, Newtonian laws are never actually broken -- gravity still attracts with a force proportional to its mass and every action still produces an equal and opposite reaction. In fact, relativity ensures that each observer's perceptions bend to make it continue to work from their perspective.
One of the basic tenets of relativity and of quantum physics, likewise, is that information cannot be transferred faster than light speed. And as much as I would love for that to not be the case, simple logic dictates that doing so would inevitably create paradoxes. It doesn't matter if you could somehow cheat the universe into thinking you weren't really moving faster than light -- you would still be able to shoot yourself before you left, and that doesn't make any damn sense.
@Derpmind DURP. I was thinking "geocentrism". I guess I don't understand what you mean, they're not both pictures of the same thing. They are. Quantum physics derives to relativity when you integrate it across all probabilities.
@O. Hinds Pretty sweet looking map, sir. I love maps, those and architecture are two of my greater weaknesses.
@Overlong Analysis Cobalt Fevers aren't good at all, I hope you feel better soon, sir. However, if you attempt to learn necromancy and your fever worsens, I suggest finding Zecora post-haste. And wow... I didn't know I'd made a simple answer that deeply meaningful, thank you so much. *smiles*
@silentcarto This is more of the reaction I was expecting, heh. Giggling is good, so thank you too!
you can exercise a vagina...also the human arm does not have very many muscles in it to begin with... So, kim when you say more muscles do you mean number or muscle volume?
@WaffleSmart Very nice morning I have now. Just woke up and want to read PH thread, but dolphins, with their vaginas derailed topic...thanks for my good mood guys and girls ^_^
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum the Sith and Jedi were both species, and they both died out. They're ideology and combat styles were taught to others to preserve them. I am not sure which Doctor you are referring to, but I'm thinking he wouldn't win in most combative situations.
@Kim I already knew that dolphins were batshit crazy. That they kill for fun and rape things. They are still adorable to the ignorant population though.
Off topic... But I have got to stop taking naps. From 8:30 PM to 10:45 PM as it was yesterday, and today I slept from 8:30 PM to 2:30 AM. This has not been good so far for my already erratic sleep cycle.
@Stephen Cawking I may need to check Simply Rarity out. It sounds like something I might have read before, but there's a bunch of sad stuff I've read before and haven't marked, so I'll go check it out.
@RoboRed Ironically when I was drawing Blacjack, I kept drawing her with her usual mane style and it just felt "not regal enough", so I gave her the wavy mane instead. Then I looked up a reference for Shining Armor on ponibooru since I wanted to give Blackjack some fancy clothes, and saw that the artist had drawn Shining Armor with the exact same style mane as Blackjack normally has. I facehoofed. So. Hard.
Wait... and I just realized... if Blackjack is Shining Armor... then I just reinforced her relationship to Twilight. Again. How does this keep happening?!
Fff- accidentally removed my reply, this sucks cervix big time... and I had just re-written it for the third time. *BUY SOME APPLES*
@Silent: I referred to "us" as "we" since I didn't see it as a small enough minority. Like some cannibalistic, rapist tribe on some island over in fuck knows. I'd go Velvet logic there and say "They're not ponies".
We could talk about vulva's instead if you want? People say I got a minor obsession about them, knowing more then any non-gynaecologist should know xD
(Forgot what I mentioned here)
Totally random: If P-21 would have a "pet name" for "his little friend", what do you think it would be? (preferably to work in pre-wasteland, but any reference to anything in the story would be neat to)
And *maniacal giggle*. My story is technically done! I just have to keep correcting the grammar and whatnot now that the writing part is done. :P ... and possibly apply some more duct tape on dat death scene...
@WaffleSmart You think that's random? You should see some of my other de-railments xD
@Rum: I am fully aware of that ;P *flex* xD And I'm not sure, all I know is that I read that they got "more".
@Ketchup: Ignorance (?) is bliss eh? And @off topic: My own sleep cycle is rather fucked up to heh.
@Robo: Pher the vulva and it's mighty vagina, holding powers over both life and death xD
@swicked Add to that a sudden, severe sinus and ear infection. What the crap is happening to me?
@I don't remember Someone once recommended a fic called Carousel as one that was supposed to induce tears. It didn't. I'm not even sure what was supposed to be sad about it... it had a relatively happy ending.
Been trying to comment for over 24h now. Blogger went down and then I was forced to use my iPod touch, which totally sucks for trying to comment here because most of the time it fails and eats the thing. On the environmental topic, about Dodos, it wasn't people actively killing them which was the problem. Indeed, Dodos weren't good to eat and were so docile hunting them for sport wasn't worth the time. The big problem was new land based predators bought with the ships like rats and dogs which killed all the chicks in the nests. Whenever people migrate to a new area there's effectively a mass extinction, usually of the larger, more slowly reproducing animals, like the giant sloth thing in North America. I'm particularly annoyed that the Moa got wiped out, since that was the staple food of the largest modern eagle in the world, which although was revered by the people it died out only a few hundred years ago. It would have been the size of the big sea eagles but with feet proportioned like terrestrial hunters- in short both magnificent and terrifying. Thing is, once something's gone it won't ever come back so we've seriously got to look after the environment. Taking the stance that they died out because they weren't well adapted enough is pretty bull when you can damn well do something about it. Also, we frankly have no idea how everything fits together so if one thing dies out a whole ecosystem could collapse (there's actually one example where without a type of orchid a large section of tropical rainforest would die, including a popular fruit bearing tree) which would be bad for everything and everyone. The worst damage is usually done at sea where noone but divers can see it, since its out of sight, out of mind.
@Stephen Cawking That wouldn't make much sense as it'd mean he'd either call it "Little P-x" from up to 1 to 20... and I guess that technically can make sense, but eh xP
@Swicked: That sounds like it sucks cervix/dock. My moods been a steady sway ^^'
@Random: Make that centimetres and it would make sense xP I'm finding it amusing, but it would be a bit iffy if he'd call it that xP So far it's about the best I got thou...
@WavemasterRyx Thanks for the concern, but I'm pretty sure I'll be fine :) - I get these pretty regularly in the spring at college. Plus, the first day or so is usually kind of fun! Fever alters my consciousness a bit, which makes it exceptionally difficult to concentrate on anything (the pain helps with that, too), which in turn means that I don't get stuck in unhappy cyclical thinking! Fever and the aches that come with it are way more preferable. (Oh, and now my ear is bleeding, derp. Today, my body has decided to be silly. =P) Good advice about the necromancy, I reckon.
Thanks for making it, I really liked it! :)
@swicked Ya might have strep - I got a case of strep in my ear once (well, inner ear) and I couldn't move for about a week because of intense motion sickness (vomit inducing). It also did the usual strep stuff, though, including sinus and fever and whatnot. Good luck with the sinus stuff and everything else!
The Doctor. The Doctor always wins. Sure, Jedi have the force and their light sabers, but the doctor would probably do something clever like emit a bio magnetic pulse that interferes with the Jedi's metachlorines so they can't use the force and then use his sonic screw driver to short out their light sabers thus rendering them completely helpless. Same goes for the Sith.
5,000 comments:
First! :D
ReplyDelete@Kim
ReplyDeleteRather, I'd see nothing wrong with executing murderers or other capital offenders, or if necessary in self defense, but I do not ever want to see an innocent person die.
You have the most fascinating rants. Mine are short and not interesting to anyone but myself.
Hey Somber. quick question - do you ever plan to bring back Blackjacks rapists?
ReplyDeleteOne of my friends, someone else who reads PH, mentioned about how my use of one of them could come... problematic.
I know its not canon and shit, but it just made the thought come up - do you plan to have us meet them again?
My word, you folks burn through pages faster than a fire wraith in a paper factory. It's quite impressive, I can see how you have over 10k comments now.
ReplyDelete@Waves
ReplyDeleteHere, Boo can have as many as she wants
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0sj2g8URK1r2emhyo1_500.jpg
all hoof made by myself, lemon drizzle cupcakes.
@Kippershy
ReplyDeleteNice Gear shirt. The cupcakes are nice too. :3
News everyone! I might have figured out what I causing my fucking headache and wooziness: Lack of proper air. It became kinda clear to me after my dad had stood with the front door open and smoked, then went inside directly once done. Causing my room to be severely polluted during the whole time, making it painful to breathe, as well as give freaking head pains similar to those in period rank. Hope trying to get some air in works.
ReplyDelete@Overlong Analysis Cobalt That comparison somehow related me to how stupid a steady damage system would be for the FoE-RPG.
And I think I understood what that part meant. (And let me just say I was the only one not high. And they got the idea of the "kind" of baking from that rather odd book that uses a certain male bodily fluid as an ingredient, but since this was a "girls night", just think of the counterpart, and that's pretty much what happened. I'm quite sure I was suffering from dehydration that day, especially with how little I eat and drink. Anyhow, I've already mentioned quite enough TMI, this is not the place to discuss these kind of things, bad brain.
@Ketchup: Yeah, I don't want to see innocents die, but I don't mind seeing bad guys die. Speaking of which, I got my knife back! :P
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteIt ate my comment! =o
I only just realised.
Anyway; Thank you for both of the compliments =3 I used to have an original GOW1 shirt, but it's gone missing a long time ago.
and thanks for the cupcakes compliment. usually my baking goes wrong somewhere, but this time it was PERFECT.
/happy happy happy.
@Kim
ReplyDeleteIn a much more honest and perfect world, Facebook and Twitter might be a place where we could share that kind of information with each other.
Well, I imagine it wouldn't be perfect for everyone. But can you imagine the Tweets?
19:23: "@ponibooru Cloppin' to foals, yo."
19:55: "still clopping to foals... oh Scootaloo, why are you so perfect?"
@Stephen Cawking
ReplyDeleteThat was a reply to the post on the previous page...
@Stephen Cawking
ReplyDeleteಠ_à²
Oh, okay. I was really confused for a second there.
@Kim
ReplyDeleteI get headaches from sitting near the smokers and stoners in my classes (they are IMPOSSIBLE to avoid) and to think that the school takes pride in being "tobacco free".
I think it would be even creepier if the "certain male bodily fluid" was blood or spinal fluid, and not what you are implying.
Grats on the knife... I guess?
@Kippershy
I used to sit beside someone in Eighth grade who had Gears of War pajamas, and he wore them to school. My best friend had a very similar Halo 3 pair that he wore all the time, I don't know if he wore them to school though, since he got kicked out of the school I went to. I solicit with a lot of delinquents, despite not being one.
@Stephen Cawking
Umm... yeah, normal people do that... suuuuure...
Okay, a question to anypony concerned:
ReplyDeleteWhere can I find prereaders for my clopfic?
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteUh... no, normal people don't. That was my point, duh.
@Random Blank
>prereaders
>clopfic
lol
Actually, how many do you need? I could help out, depending on the length.
@Random Blank
ReplyDeletehonestly, depending on length, I don't mind.
That stuff doesn't freak me out personally.
That depends on the quality of the prereading :)
ReplyDelete7k words, Luna x human
Give some private contact, randomblank at derpymail.org if you don't want to post it here.
@Random Blank
ReplyDeleteregardless, what I said earlier to you, about clopfics, I could read it.
@Kim
ReplyDeleteNo, it's not...
my steamname is stoiccrusader... just so ya know
ReplyDelete@Random Blank
ReplyDeleteI'd pre-read it, but that would go against a half dozen of my morals. Sorry.
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteIt's the internet. Be ready for anything.
@Admiral Stoic "El Cazador" Rum
What games do you play? I might consider adding you. (of course, it'll likely be a long time before I'm on again)
kibugamikenzo is doing a livestream of his OC pony Archaic Remedy, its an action shot check it out
ReplyDeletehttp://www.livestream.com/kibugamikenzo
hes doing coloring and brass right now
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteImproper grammar and flawed writing are against my morality (well... against my aesthetics, anyway), but I'm also super busy for pretty much the entire immediately foreseeable future. Um, not that your story's got improper grammar or flawed writing, Random, I haven't read it so I don't know.
@Stephen Cawking That is a concern of mine; "Liking" something on Facebook that could get me fired.
ReplyDeleteLink to asian porn: coworkers are down with that.
Link to Scootaloo clop: FIRED!
You are right though: we need to all be honest. We all watch porn. I am not ashamed. Would be very uncomfortable for your Dad to comment on a video you shared on your wall "ya know Stephen, under the right light, she kind of looks like your sister."
you know what? I use a secure connection for facebook and I do not allow certain people to see certain posts, and then I also don't put coworkers on my facebook, and chickens...
ReplyDelete@RoboRed
ReplyDeletePfft, censorship.
@Overlong Analysis Cobalt
Morality was not a proper term for that, It would go against my values, I suppose.
@Nuhvok01
Having a secret and being honest are two different things, and you are right, I think a situation along those lines would be VERY uncomfortable.
...
Alrighty then, I suggest a new topic. Although, as usual, I don't have one. Lame, eh?
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteHow about silly stories? I've got a good one.
A couple weeks ago, I was at work, minding my own business, going across the building to complete my next task, when I see one of my supervisors walking towards the elevator.
Being deliciously evil, I quietly snuck up behind him and waited. Then, when the elevator door opened, I shouted "HI!" in the loudest, best impression of Pinkie Pie I could muster.
The result was something akin to this.
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteDude, My high school english teacher had us read "Brave New World".
To sum it up:
Babies get mass produced in towering assembly lines and get conditioned chemically, physically, and mentally from fetus to young adult so that they range anywhere from Alpha Superior to epsilon semi-retard.
A well known childrens game that gets played everywhere is called Orgy-Porgy and is exactly what you think it is.
A super drug was created that induced absolute bliss, had no long term side effects, and was used for everything from recreational use to crowd control.
The civilization as a whole worships Gerald Ford as a God and cut the tops off of every cross so they would be giant T's in praise of Ford's Model T.
The only groups of people who have morals and still worship Christianity are considered savages and are inclosed in huge reserves surrounded by 10 foot tall lethal electrical fences.
All progress has pretty much stopped and only the status-quot is kept.
and the whole world is about ten times worse than what I just described.
Makes the FOE world sound a bit more appealing, doesn't it?
@Jacky2734
ReplyDeleteWhat the hell... That makes no sense whatsoever. Lol. Sounds ridiculous. What grade did you have to read it in?
@RoboRed
Cool story, bro. Tell it again. If I had any 'funny' stories to share, they would not be funny to any of you, fortunately or unfortunately.
As for new topics, and touching on Jacky's religion quote, I wonder what the various religions are in FOE:PH. I mean, we've got the Fell Choir, The Goddess, The (unknowingly expired) Godesses, Steel Rangers have a Technology Idol, The Pilgrimage (although Priest is dead now I guess), the Raiders have the Reapers, the Zebras have the Stars. Am I missing anything/one/being?
ReplyDelete@Jacky
ReplyDeleteI read that freshmen year of college.
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteIt made a hell of a lot more sense back when it was written. which was sometime between WWI and the great depression and was a satire on what the author thought was the direction the world was heading. I believe it was either my Junior or Senior year when I read it. I don't quite remember, I been out of high school for over three years now and I had the same english teacher throughout highschool. He also had us read Fahrenheit 451, basically in that story, if you owned any form of published literature, a group of firemen would come to your house, burn it down, and send you off to the happy farm, never to heard from again.
@theBSDude
Good, then maybe you could explain it better than me.
@Luminous Security worships whiskey/and or the porcelain throne the morning after, and Little Pip becomes something of a religious figure herself by stories end. Hmm wonder if years down the line she will start hearing prayers directed to her or eventually some clever little stable filly using her name in nearly poetically creative vulgarity.
ReplyDelete@Jacky2734
ReplyDeleteAh yes, the US' Great Depression. I suppose distopia camouflaged within 'futuristic utopia' could indeed be a clever way of trolling during that period.
That second book seems interesting and makes a bit more sense, to be certain.
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteIt's not Bradbury's best work by any means, but it's not a bad read. I really recommend his horror anthology "The October Country" - I read it in third or fourth grade, and, looking back, it's entirely possible that it was at least partially responsible for me turning out how I did. Really, really good stuff in there; literary horror, psychological horror, Lovecraftian horror, and a smattering of comedy and drama. Even the weakest story was fantastic.
@Jacky2734
ReplyDelete...Henry Ford. Gerald Ford was the president that tripped over everybody. I'll assume that was just a typo (name-o), though still leave the correction in case anybody who hasn't read it is suddenly confused.
Also, the movie version of Fahrenheit 451 is hilariously bad. I had to read it (for the third time) in high school, and the teacher decided to show the movie without having seen it beforehand. After the first day he semi-apologized to all of us because he had no idea how terrible it was and we couldn't stop laughing at it the entire time. The firetruck looks like a giant plastic scooter and has its own ridiculous theme song, for one thing.
@Salculd
ReplyDeleteYeah, I completely derped the name. thanks for pointing that out.
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteI just usually take forever to do things, heh - sometimes when it's important and I'm lucky to have enough focus I can do drawings pretty quickly. Also, thank you, sir.
@Kippershy
Heh, well I'm very glad you liked it so much, sir. *smiles*
I do hope you had a very happy birthday - and I'll be sure to pass on the cupcakes to Boo, she'll be very happy.
@silentcarto
*smiles*
@Random Blank
Boooooo! Sign handles are not for nomming!
Hilarious, sir.
@kirbuu
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Security years down will be remembered in weird drinking rituals, say, setting a glass "for her" aside and setting the contents on fire, or maybe the title of Queen Whiskey passed down through the ages in some celebrations, with increasingly fancy whiskey crowns, ultimately towering art forms of glass, filled with finest Wild Pegasus.
Or at least gets commemorated by a whiskey brand named after her.
@Random Blank
ReplyDeleteOr who will win in drink contest, while saving ponies? :)
Hm...'Security Whiskey' - strong and reliable taste.
'Black Jack Whiskey' - Ante Up!
heh... I'm bad at making slogans =/
@Random Blank
ReplyDeleteNah nah nah. they'll get the title of princess whiskey, but BJ will never give up queen whiskey.
@Kim
ReplyDeleteIf you have a furnace in the house, you might get it checked (or get a carbon monoxide detector). Low-level CO poisoning can cause persistent headaches, among other things.
On a lighter note, have you seen the new blind bag ponies? Check out Fluttershy.
Or should I say, Psychoshy?!
...especially that small amounts of smoke (whatever, cigarette too) shouldn't cause migraines. That's not a healthy body reaction.
ReplyDeleteSilentcarto: That Luna. Argh!
Blackjack worshipped as a Dionysus-esque drinking and partying goddess?
ReplyDelete...
Hell yes!
I can totally picture future wastelanders / tribals trying to invoke the protection of Queen Whiskey by leaving a shot of Wild Pegasus outside their camp at night. Or
@Stephen Cawking
ReplyDeleteOr wearing duct-taped whiskey bottle crowns into battle, believing them to grant magical protection.
Dang it. What is wrong with me today? Why do I press 'post' if I'm not done typing?
@Stephen Cawking
ReplyDeleteKeyboard gremlins.
had a thought, it was one of those funny stories, but then I forgot it.
ReplyDeletealthough I did manage to sneak up on one of the waitresses at work and scare the daylights out of her... just kinda went "AHH!" as she made eye contact with me, not knowing I was behind her and she screamed for a good I dunno 5 seconds...at about 3 seconds I proceeded to hover my palm over her mouth then she stopped...
@Jacky2734
ReplyDelete"The only groups of people who have morals and still worship Christianity are considered savages"
Oh boy, here we go
Heh, I generally look scary. I don't start with scaring people, though appearing from behind a corner I elicited a scared yelp at least two times. But one time there were two kids walking some way ahead of me. One looks back, talks to the other, the other looks back, then they start running. So, I began running too. They looked back.
ReplyDeleteThe screams! The speed!
@WaffleSmart
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, they were pretty much savages. Brave New World did not cast Christianity in a very good light, unless you're into self-flagellation. Hell, it even drew a symbolic link between ritualistic orgy and Christian ritualism.
I'm sorry, everyone. I really hoped... really wanted... to get 39 done. I think that I'm starting to suffer from burnout. It's not the lack of ideas. I know what needs to happen next in the story it's just... sigh. I need to move things along. Originally 35,36,37,38,and 39 were all supposed to be one chapter. Just... one... and now they're 160 pages.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry. I'm not going to quit. I'm not going to try and slow down. I need to push through and finish before I'm on chapter 80...
I wonder if this is how Jordan felt when it got to WoT book nine... ugggh...
@Random Blank
ReplyDeleteAnd I simply scare everyone in my house by just walking somewhere...apparently I picked some Sneak perk at some point...and they presented me a bell, on rope...so I will make some noise, while walking.
@Somber
ReplyDeleteIt's okay dude. Take as much time as you need. You seemingly spend all your time writing this fic non stop and of course it's going to wear you down.
Just remember we'll wait as long as you need us to, and have confidence in yourself. k?
@Jacky2734
ReplyDeletethat sounds fucking beautiful to me.
@Somber
ReplyDeleteI really don't have the right to tell you how to write your story, but I think you should not try to push through a burnout.
The last thing I would want, if I were in your position, is to produce something you aren't satisfied with. Working on in spite of a lack of motivation means taking that risk.
We're only just at the beginning of 'book two.' So it isn't too late to say that you need a break before continuing. Even if it's just for a month or even a week.
Slowing down might actually make it easier to condense things a little bit, by rethinking what needs to go in and what can be cut out.
oh you know what, I do have a sneak story. I was up at a friends house for the night, they have this old rickety wooden floor, she said its impossible to sneak around her house because of this old creaky floor. The irony, She says this,
ReplyDelete"I hear you wandering around *clomp clomp* on one side of the house, then suddenly *silence*. Its like you're not there at all. I call out 'Alex?' and you're right on the complete opposite side of me the other side of the House, right where you should not have been, merely moments before you were on the other side of the house. And you say 'What?' scaring me so badly, because i did not know you were there, I drop my knife. 'How did you do that?' I scream."
Honestly, it is loud to walk around her house... but I apparently do this all the time. Her at the time boyfriend said I would likely have gotten stabbed if it were him. ;)
@Somber
ReplyDeleteHey, I know this is my first post here; heck, I only just started reading FIM fan-fiction about a month ago, and have only recently finished reading 38, but from someone who both works in the medical field AND loves your story; Please don't feel compelled to "push through" your burnout. No one blames you for needing to take a breather (or, rather, no one whose opinion means a damn). Any true fan of Project Horizons will understand the needs of the author.
Seriously, though, Somber... for such a talented writer, you seem to have some self-esteem issues... not that I'm trying to nitpick, but I have noticed that you do a lot of apologizing.
The reason I bring this up is because I get the impression that you feel as though you owe us something... and you don't. Really. It always gets my goat when I see self-entitled internet users who get all bent-out-of-shape because, say, the author needs some time to rest between chapters.
The fact is; this is a free service. You aren't getting paid to write this, nor are your readers paying to read it. This gives you the right to write at your own, comfortable pace. This means you can effect the story however you see fit. Most importantly, this means you have the right to produce the story the way you want to.
So please: take a break. You've earned it.
@Somber
ReplyDeleteJust take as long as you need. Personally I wouldn't push through it. Although those 150 pages were meant to be one chapter, what would we have lost along the way? Probably a lot if the more personal dynamics which make this story so good.
There's nothing wrong with slowing down a bit- trying to get a chapter of your typical size out every week is a simply Herculean endeavour. You certainly won't lose readers if this does reach 80 chapters but the quality is consistent with your current work.
@Stephen: Mayhaps, but I still see it as kinda iffy to share such details heh.
ReplyDeleteAnd yeah, sadly I can immagine the tweets xD
14:31 "Got a Twilight toy today!" [picture]
14:37 "Just got on ponibooru/e621, gonna do some cloppin'"
14:56 "Man, just squirted all over Twilight, it was amazing" [picture]
15:05 "Giving my Twilight a bath, gonna comb her mane in a few"
15:09 "Brushy, brushy. Good as new"
Or something, I dunno. And yay, I have an awful knack for derailing stuff xD
(And yeah, I understood that ;P)
@Ketchup: Hate people like that. As well as their logic of "shove a stick up your ass till it stops hurting or becomes numb enough that you don't feel it!" (basically the logic of smoking/drinking. No-one likes it at first, you "get used to it". And like said, why'd I want to get used to having a stick shoved up my ass? Let alone: Pay for it? Then you just get to a state where you need it to feel "normal", it gives the impression that you feel better by having you feeling worse when you don't take it. Heck, I get that for free by not eating enough.
Anyhow, I don't see how blood or spinal fluid would be "certain male", since I'm quite sure both genders have the same type of those.
And yeah, I just feel a bit better knowing I have a more lethal weapon with me then martial arts.
@Random: Would say FiMchan, I think the name was. They have a few proofreader threads you post your stuff in. (since don't post it seperately, just find a proofreader there that takes your type of work)
@Swicked: Mind telling me what is not? I kinda derped out a bit
And unrelated to any of this: Just wana ask your opinion on a kinda gruesome matter. (really, don't read if you dislike/can't stand that stuff, which I kinda doubt as you are reading PH xP) Some whiles ago I saw a sexual gore (?) pic, basically male dragon, female pony, big size difference. Where she more or less got "impaled"/semi-torn apart. (blood was involved) And among the usual comments of mixed opinions, there was someone that asked what a possible follow up/revenge pic could be. (or reversed roles) And my reply was "Possibly poke/stab some holes in it with her horn, then use raw telikinitec pressure to crush/compress it to a more "suitable" size for her. And apparently, quite a few thought this was "way out of proportion" or "totally not the same/equal punishment". What do you guys think? (and as for "reversed roles", I just went with my standard "ruptured erectile tissue through twisting". Also however noticed it could turn rather gory depending how strong vaginal muscles said female would have.)
(Or wait, is this to related to the non-con topic? And if so, is this to soon?)
->
And more unrealted, on the topic of fics: Still stuck on my 2 rapefics. My P-21 one I want to keep writing, but I'm out of ideas what to write, but I could put them down smoothly if I had them. And recently started a new fic, trying to write my favorite, "dream" fic. Which has the oposite problem. I want to work on it, I know what to write in it for "story", but I completly fail with how to write it. Plus, kinda need motivation for both of them ^^'
ReplyDelete@Robored: That sounds a bit like when I snuck up on some friends in the middle of the night, jumped from behind a wall and shouted "SNEAK ATTACK!" xP
@Jacky: That sounds like a very odd book. Yet kinda interesting.
@Silent: Hum.. not that I know.
And I saw them, got a smug grin on "Lyra Heartstrings", (mainly since of the "only canon info" pony site) I was one of the first in the discussion "Lyra VS Heartstrings" to point out it could be a double name.
@Random: When have I ever said I am in a healthy condition? ;P
@Somber: I know that feeling, pretty much a constant state of mine heh.. I know what will happen, just have to formulate it properly. And Somber, don't aim for burnout's, you know what happened to Pip, she couldn't magic for days.
@PonyParadox: Actually, Somber is getting donations, so she feels compelled to do it, she is technically getting paid to write.
And also: Wow, I am in much worse shape then I thought. I went out dashing to a place to help with some stuff, after just running ~250 meters straight, I almost passed out, vision was blurry, and I could barely breathe or stand. I am not in a very brand condition... and heh, it wheezes when I breathe xD
@Kim
ReplyDeleteI know that those two fluids are indeed common between sexes, but in order to obtain them, from a male or female, bodily harm must take place, especially spinal fluid. And one might take irrational pleasure in using one from the opposite sex. That would make it creepy.
@PonyParadox
ReplyDeleteIt's rather two fold... First, I've been writing this for eight months now. It's huge. Much longer than I ever imagined. And more than anything else I want to finish so that from begining to end I've got the story done. I'm terrified that if I get a teaching job... that's it. I'll never get finished. Taking a month off is 4 chapters not updated.
The other reason is people donate to keep this story going and when I fail to produce then it feels like I'm getting in a very dangerous place. So if I can't write anymore then I'm doubly screwed.
I was the story finished. I want it to be awesome. Some folks have been reading since July, when I started. I just don't want this to end up 'Oh, another somber story that never got finished...'
Talk about luck.
ReplyDeleteI just gone done eating at a restaurant and was about to go pay my bill when a guy I've never met, heard of, am pretty sure doesn't know anybody I know, and will probably never meet again pulls me to the side and tells me he's paying for my lunch. He wouldn't except no for an answer and tells me I'll be doing him a favor by allowing him to pay for lunch. What are the odds?
@PonyParadox
ReplyDeleteAllow me ti disagree. Taking a break doesn't help a bit against burnout. Really, speaking from experience here. I took YEARS of break.
Sure Somber has no obligations. Sure he can slow down from his insane tempo. Sure he has right to some fun. I'm not arguing with that.
But taking a break in order to fight burnout is... useless. It just doesn't work.
@Kim
ReplyDeleteAll of these random headaches, pains, pressures and deliriums are starting to sound an awful lot like a brain tumor. What does your doctor say about them?
I think I saw that dragon pic. Wasn't it Celestia instructing said dragon? In that case, directing the revenge at only the dragon wouldn't be justice, no.
@Kim
ReplyDeleteThanks, but the story is already up on fimfiction. Bronies from fimfiction irc appeared very helpful too.
@Somber
ReplyDeleteHey, I posted this earlier, but it was lost. First off, this fic is amazing. But what if non-bronies want to enjoy it also? II propose giving me the task of rewriting it as humans. I know it sounds sstupid at first, but I already have chapter 1 down as a sample. Just message me about it?
@Somber
ReplyDeleteWhatever you need, Somber, let us know.
@Rawrthedinosaurpony
ReplyDeletelol
@silentcarto
ReplyDeleteLuna? What Luna? I don't see anypony that looks even remotely like Luna there.
@Kim
ReplyDeletePersonally, I'd think that was... "reasonable" is the wrong word.... "Appropriate"? No, that doesn't fit either. You know what I mean, though.
I haven't seen the pic though (<-- filtered "gore" and "rape" on poniboruu).
Hey somber, if you need to slow down, then slowdown, just don't stop and don't call it a break... try devoting I dunno maybe a little less time a day than you normally do for this fiction. We want to support you as best we can, I agree the only thing you can do against burnout is push against it. Not as hard as you've been pushing, but you must continue if you wnat to climb that mountain. when you've reached the top, you can say I did this!
ReplyDelete@Somber
ReplyDeleteI understand your frustration, but please don't try to power through just to reach the end. Few things are more disappointing than investing a huge chuck of time reading a story, only for it to end abruptly.
@Random Blank
ReplyDelete"clopfoc"
I know this fandom is all about tolerance and whatnot, but for some reason this really rustles my jimmies
@Somber
I too have a problem with not finishing my stories, I can totally relate, I can only hope you can find the inspiration to continue soon! I don't know what I'd do wothout another chapter of your story to read every week!
@Rawrthedinosaurpony
I see what you're thinking, I've thought about Kkat humanifying her story and getting it published once, but if you think about it, the story really wouldn't be as good. It was originally written to be about animals, you can't just replace every "pony" with "person" and call it a day. The whole point is that the ponies didn't know what war was like, they were peaceful and innocent, and had no idea what they were doing... I can go on and on about how the the main characters are animals for more reasons than just being funny. Also, I think it would be kind of offensive to edit Kkat's or Sombers story like that.
Also
ReplyDelete@Kim, RE: headaches
How much water you drinking? Average human needs 1000ml (~32 oz) of water a day, but twice that is a good idea. Also, juice only counts fir like, 3/4 volume.
@Somber
ReplyDeleteWell, don't rush too much, or the story will end in "A bomb exploded and killed everypony. Fin." or something like that next chapter. You should take your time. I'm sure you can pull through such a dilemma.
@WaffleSmart
It sure is good that we can choose what we love and tolerate, otherwise, I'd go insane.
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteYou mean "choose what we love," right? I think we're supposed to tolerate anything that isn't harmful.
@Somber
ReplyDelete*hugs Somber*
Things take as long as they take, sir - that goes both for writing and the story itself. Just try your best, but please don't push yourself too hard.
Also, sir, please don't let my obsession with Boo unjustly influence what you have planned. I mean, don't expect me not to bawl my head off when she dies - but I've accepted that it's entirely likely, and can think off-hand of 5 different situations that would result in her death. So please don't pay me any mind, and just do what you do best.
@Somber
*hugs again*
If you were able to get a job, so that you actually had some stability (dare I say, even be able to live on your own, by some chance), I would gladly accept waiting longer for chapters. Although I do love this story (and all the stories you've written), I've donated to keep you going, sir.
@about filly-Boo
Alright, I know I said it would be the next thing I'd draw, after I finished my huge project. But I haven't finished the huge project yet... and then three different things suddenly sprang up that I had to draw something for immediately. *rubs forehead*
So yes... I'll get to it right soon. In the mean-time, Boo is doing her best to prepare to be cute.
http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/19248815810
@theBSDude
ReplyDeleteThanks for catching that. That is what I meant. Damn it, lol.
@WavemasterRyx
Boo tumblr is best tumblr. I agree on Somber not taking ideas that we suggest we like, and to write what she wants and plans.
@WavemasterRyx
ReplyDeleteOh, and if she dies, you can do Ghost Boo!
@WaffleSmart
ReplyDeleteI can understand you - "these are just innocent ponies". Well, for me they are more, and the story is primarily a drama and romance leading up to a bittersweet ending, spiced up with (admittedly, graphic) erotica where it naturally belongs. I don't do cheap porn, trust me.
But I admit my sexuality is quite "off standard" so I understand many people might find the idea of sexualizing the ponies repulsive. So, each to their own, I'm not insisting on you reading it, you put that pitchfork away...
and re:Rawrthedinosaurpony
Yeah, try explaining what's so special and unusual about Blackjack's new cyberhands having fingers.
I think I smell a troll.
@Rawrthedinosaurpony
ReplyDeleteIf my friend had never told me about FO:E, I would never have become a Brony. Anyone with the prerequisite of liking Fallout and reading would likely find this enjoyable, even with the ponies. I started more 'normal' pony-related activities after reading 20 chapters to aid in understanding. Now I can't wait for Saturdays.
@Random Blank
ReplyDeleteI do agree with one thing, ponies can be more. People always have assumed that MLP is a childish thing, and from the impression left by the last few gens, they have a good reason to. PH and FO:E are examples of a 'childish' thing turned into a work of art. Granted, it took the help of an excellent game to happen, but it did.
And, for some, I suppose 'clops' are another way of making 'art', if it's your preference. I personally find Clops repulsive, I don't even read dedicated Ships.
There is also a lot of FO:E themed pictures in this Drawfriend. Nice ones.
ReplyDelete@blank
ReplyDeleteJust to throw in my two cents, while I don't like romance (personal preference) I can completely understand the attraction to these personalities. I just can't imagine these marshmallow ponies as sexual beings. Enough authors see fit to humanize the ponies for the clop fic, though. Are you doing that for your fic?
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum
ReplyDeleteLulz. XD
@Somber
♪ Sounds like somepony needs a huuuugggg...♪
35-39 being all one chapter? Damn that would've been a big chapter (assuming all text was intact, of course). And 80 chapters total!? *brainsplode* I expected this to go to about 50-60.
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum
Sneaking up on people is fuuuun. :D
You just gotta be careful of those whose first inclination is to inflict physical harm.
@Kim
Sometimes I like to jump out and scream "NINJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!" (which ironically is the complete opposite of what a ninja would do, but it's fun nonetheless.)
@Somber
Ah, July. So that's when this whole thing started...
@WavemasterRyx
I saw that earlier this morning. I d'awwed.
I admit, I too will be sad if she is gone.
@ketchup504
Hmmm...Ghost Boo may have the potential for even cuter and physics-breaking antics...
@ketchup504
Ooooh, there's an idea for a topic: "How did you become a brony?"
Happened to me back in August. By this point in time, I had only been vaguely aware of MLP, and wasn't even aware that the current series was relatively brand new. I had seen various images from the show captioned with current memes and silly stuff potentially relating to the image at hand. I pretty much paid in no mind and put it under the pretense of "people will meme-itize/caption anything nowadays if it amuses them". I had also once seen a video of a modified Portal 2 game with a "Pinkie Sphere", which I found pretty amusing.
The turning point came one day when I visited another usual hangout of mine, Jalopnik. There were already a handful of users there in the off-topic section who gave occasional use to the captioned MLP images. But one day, one of them decided to post a link to a youtube video that contained the entirety of Season 1. (I don't remember for certain which user, but I strongly suspect it was the one calling himself "RainbowDash".) So I figured, "Eh. If there's this many guys obsessed over it and making all of this funny business on the internet, I guess it can't be that bad". So I clicked the link, watched the first few episodes, and was like, "Wow, this is actually pretty good!".
Anyways, I was hooked. I spent the next few days working though the video. Interest was magnified when I found out that a bunch of the people who worked on the show also had worked on some of my other all-time favorite cartoons (Ed Edd n Eddy being a particular).
And the rest is history.
@RoboRed
ReplyDeleteIf you want to know of another 'kid's show' turned meme look up Adventure Time. Damn, it is messed up. But it is funny, and that guy that voiced Bender voices a main character, a shape-shifting dog. I think the name is John DiMaggio.
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteYep. John DiMaggio voices Jake the Dog, Bender from Futurama, and Marcus Fenix from Gears of War.
Adventure Time isn't all that bad. I never really watched it that much because it was always on when I was either at work or class. And I hardly watch the TV at all now.
Regular Show and Amazing World of Gumball are also pretty good.
@Somber
ReplyDeleteIt is becoming increasingly unlikely that you will finish writing before the 18th month after you started. You only have two things to fear: Fear itself, (don't let fear control you,) and your steadily increasing writing talent and ability. You are completely capable of dealing with the above and everything else.
Completely unrelated, but does anyone have the number on Pinkie Pie's party planning service? You can never start planing for an anniversary party too soon.
@Jacky2734
ReplyDeleteYep, 'Industrialization' goes to whole new levels here, from alphas to gammas, still, i wouldn't sacrifice the entire concept of 'future' for soma and... 'that' life. to me, ignorance to a certain extent isn't a life. At least FOE *has* a future =D still, fallout is still a hell of a fine-line.
interesting discussion!
@Luminous
ReplyDeletewell... to add to the religious conatations (and biblical links), probably the entire concept of fallout and how it's brought forth in the games. heroes in armor, great evils though cannon for stories when applied in the original fallout stories has some awry comparable points. big topics, just throwing it out there. like your point =D
@Somber
ReplyDeleteHey, HEY! Don't beat yourself up, not over your fans cries for updates (we always do that because we're spoiled by you and your great works =D) you've been doing amazing, nothing less, you got sick and that's not your fault. and about a chapter that got bigger then one? well, HEY, it's better to have such important parts of the plot come into their own schedule (and ordained by YOU), i never thought it was slow, i never thought it needed to 'pick up'. quality has always been up somewhere above the sky and BJ has gone through things that in my perspective shouldn't be rushed.
We're all giddy at every update but i don't think ANYPONY here would want to whicpcrack you back into work. we care. we can be patient(i think...). we respect your need to take time cause that's part of the learning and writing process.
And the golden rule: Do Not rush the writers! They are the hands that FEED us art!
take care, have fun with what you do and I thank you for this wonderful addition to the Fallout Equestria World, never forget, we all support you!
=D
@Rawrthedinosaurpony
ReplyDeleteIf somber agrees, i'd be willing to pitch in, I also see how great this is (I'm currently working on a FO:E side-fic of my own =D), turning ponies into humans would definitly allow others to be interested in it but I'd be interested in knowing how you would translate the 'fantasial' parts into 'science', would you change magic into F.E.V. induced psyonics?
@Random Blank
ReplyDeletePersonally I don't have any issues with someone doing clopfick or any other animated/written ogrophy related, i could say my perspectives are also 'off-standard' knowing as i've seen and went from regular, to 'H' (Anime in all forms has changed how i look at things drasticly) and whatever else some curious artist decides to dwell through. Personally, I just think that if quality is there then go right ahead, i haven't really been exploring much of the 'other' stuff produced from mlp but i'd be interested at least.
@swicked
ReplyDeleteWell, i couldn't imagine 'marshmallows' being hotty any further then the 'bedroom eyes' (smilled the first time i saw it) but just so you know, there are some really good artists doing the stuff, check up on Deviant Art maker by 'Slugbox' even if you don't 'clop', the art is still amazing.
@Everybody
ReplyDeleteHello everybody, would any of you be interested in possibly getting a physical copy of Fallout: Equestria? There's a mass-printing (of a sort) being organised on Facebook here: http://www.facebook.com/groups/FalloutEquestria/
The price will apparently go down if more than 150 people agree to get copies, and the projected cost for the 150 mark is ~$85US.
Check it out! :D
@medler
ReplyDeleteI really have very little taste for art and I really don't like slug's style at all. I'm much more into the written word.
In any case, not really in the mood for looking at nice things, anyway. As horrible as last week was for me in terms of stress and fear, this week might have been worse with its disappointment and depression. When it rains, it pours.
@swicked
ReplyDeleteNo, I don't humanize the ponies and I definitely dislike all the "humanized".
But I'm definitely fascinated by the character of Princess Luna and her difficulties with fitting in. So, she was doing her best, and nobody appreciated it. She was feeling lonely and alienated. She reacted badly, and got punished terribly. Then she is back, and... while most things have changed, the essence is still the same: she's lonely, alienated, doing her best and unappreciated. Ouch.
So, she craves for company. But there's no companion for her among the ponies. Instead, she finds one who is already in love with her... a human, a brony.
But a princess of Equestria can't have a human for a mate, this would not be acceptable, and besides, she doesn't find him physically attractive the least bit. So all they have is just one night together, and she warms up to his personality as she gets to know him better.
How can this lead up to hot sex? Why, through Lambda Calculus, duh.
What's to dislike about humanizing them? They are already mentally human, so any further change is just physical.
ReplyDeleteAnd I don't mean furry half-transformations where they still have hooves and six breasts or whatever.
I dunno. Again, it's all just preferences and if you would really like to get it on with an intelligent horse.
@ChaosMedler
ReplyDeleteI'm not a great fan of Slugbox. When it comes to weird/creepy I much prefer CrookedTrees, ECMajor and Iram/Crappyunicorn. When it comes to cute sexy, nothing beats John Joseco's flanks.
@swicked
>>They are already mentally human
You give humans far too much credit.
Trust my word, they are intelligent equines much more than ponified humans.
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ReplyDelete@blank
ReplyDeleteYou are a very confused individual. How, exactly, do their personalities resemble that which is capable of a horse?
They are modeled after humans. Written and voiced by humans. They are mentally idealized humans.
@Somber
ReplyDeleteI understand completely; I really just didn't want you to think that you have to push yourself, but in the end, if finishing is what you feel you have to do, then that's what you have to do.
@Random Blank
You're right, of course. I certainly wasn't trying to tell Somber to take a break, though I can see that it looks that way. I only wanted to say that he should write at his own pace; incidentally, if that means finishing the story before his head explodes, that's fine.
@somber
ReplyDeleteHonestly, just do your best. I get that its becoming difficult, so just work through it, like you would probably do anyway. More than anything try not to feel too guilty if your best isn't quite what you wish it was. You are a better author now than you were when you started this fic, and you will continue to get better.
@Somber
ReplyDeleteFor my part, I send money because I care about you and what happens to you, mate, not as payment for the story. (I'd love to be able to pay for the story as well, mind, but that'd be a mite shady) I don't really have much advice on getting out of a burnout; I generally try to just push on through 'em, one word at a time, and if I'm lucky I regain whatever spark started me writing the story in the first place that way, but my standards are also significantly lower than yours (I also don't have readers, which helps take pressure off considerably =P). I wish you luck, for partially selfish reasons (love the story!), and, for the record, I wouldn't mind a drastically decreased update speed (even a hiatus) if it meant that you got that substitute teaching gig.
@Wavemaster
Boo is still cutestbestpony! =D
@The Great Clop Debate Of Our Time (specifically, are intelligent equines the same as ponified humans?)
Ooh, ooh, ooh, it sounds like we're about to talk about embodiment! Are we about to talk about embodiment? This is relevant to my interests! It's also relevant to the idea of replacing ponies with humans in the story, naturellement. Magic use in unicorns, for one, changes both physical interactions and how the mind works. (This isn't the extent of my theories and opinions on the issue, just a sample in case it's not actually interesting to other folks)
As for the general concept of clop itself, I... okay, my roommate is speaking in tongues, this is odd... ahem. I'm a kind of stupid about romanticism and romance - it's a weakness - so the "romance" tagged stuff tends to pull at my heartstrings, especially if it's written well. Actual eroticism can work well with that stuff, but I'm not too interested in it for its own sake. /shrug I dunno, I figure people like what they like. Not like I've got room to judge, I've enjoyed listening to some pretty godawful grindcore. =P (For the curious. Don't be curious, it is one minute and twelve seconds of your life you will never get back.)
@swicked
ReplyDeleteTake Celestia. She's absolutely dedicated to her role, a selfless, incorruptible ruler, protective, wise and sensitive.
Her nation trusts her limitlessly, not even a shade of dissent, distrust or dislike, and rightly so, because she deserves all of this.
That is precisely the relation of a lead mare to the rest of the herd. She will never act selfishly against the good of the herd, biologically incapable of betrayal, and the herd trusts her completely, following her command without even thinking of questioning them.
Now translate this to ANY human nation/group and ANY human politician/leader.
@Somber
ReplyDeleteHey, don't be like that, you will re-gain that spark, which you have to write further. Believe me or not, but I know how you feel, just don't stop and don't rush. Write chapter longer time, than usually, but don't stop. I've been there, few month have passed, since I was getting my 'rest from work' and it was hard to start. But, there was one thing that pulled me together and...well...forced me to work - music. Maybe it'll work for you too (not forcing to work, but re-gain that spark and overcome burnout). I don't know do you like this kind of music or not, but this helped me, I hope this will help you too.
@WavemasterRyx
ReplyDeleteBad Advice Boo? :D
"If you were able to get a job, so that you actually had some stability (dare I say, even be able to live on your own, by some chance), I would gladly accept waiting longer for chapters."
What he said! Writing this fic should be a hobby, not a job.
Is it "Send Somber Inspirational Music" time?
ReplyDeleteI'll pitch in this: http://youtu.be/B-x7CpJXhek
I remember listening to it after finishing the Fluttershy Hospital chapter. At the time, I was still on the fence about whether I had the patience to read all of Horizons (especially since it meant having to read all of Fo:E as wel).
That chapter, man. That chapter.
Terminate life support? Y/N
It moved the shit out of me. I didn't cry, like I did at the end of Simply Rarity. Killing the foals was the right thing to do. Hell, technically they weren't even foals anymore, having been alive and conscious for centuries. It just left me feeling angry... empty... just... loss.
That, and playing red light/green light with a giant steel beast, as well as the general atmosphere in the hospital. I had to keep reading.
It seem my comment got eaten by the internet. So here it is again.
ReplyDeleteSomber@ This is an extended audio clip remove from Mass Effect 3.
Spoiler alert
Extended final conversation with Anderson (Fem Shepard version)
http://vulpesetuva.tumblr.com/post/19107540704/because-were-not-all-depressed-enough-one-thing
(If I have post this already than my bad for "spamming the comments". I look the comment up on the comments section and couldn't found it so I just assume it got eaten by internet vampires.)
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteI never said I didn't tolerate it, I just don't love it
@ketchup504 ... fair enough point. But my point was kinda a "exclusive" bodily fluid. But I see where you're getting at.
ReplyDelete@Jacky: That sounds rather random, but also kind as well... in a rather odd way heh.
@Stephen: She wasn't instructing from what I got to know about it, she was just "assisting" it. If I got it explained properly, the dragon was pretty much either offered to do it, or Celestia offered to aid him with it. But yes, both would need a payback in order for it to "work".
@Radnom: Ah, okies.I know that from experience, posting it in "new threads" is sorta frowned upon. I personally just never found any "writing/editing" help threads ^^'
@TheBS: I'm guessing you're trying to say it would be "kinda equal", or however to put it, "eye for an eye"?
Other post: Hum... think I drink like ½ to 1 litre a day. Sometimes less.
@Swicked: (about fics) Personally, being pansexual (with quite much *cough*dyke*cough* tendencies) I just see them as sentient beings. Like how many of you might see ex: elves, or certain blue things from mass effect xP I'd never be attracted to a rl equiine or animal, but in fantasy, they are fully sentient. And okay sure, different body anatomy would make... "certain tasks" a bit hard, but that is just how you'd have to adjusts some things to apply to their anatomy. It's what's inside, and how they are that counts. For me at least heh.
(Also, they are not "mentally human", technically at least. They have humanoid mental capacity, or whatever to call it. Just like how dwarves are not "mentally human", but still think similarly. Just because they can think, doesn't make them human, it makes them sentient. Or would you say every race in mass effect "thinks human"? They have "inspiration from humans". But really, allot of things are there as animals as well, it's just that sentient creatures can express and rationalize these better.)
@Robo: It's actually quite similar to what my half-orc barbarian-rogue does, doing a rage induced charge, yelling "PELLY BACKSTAB/SMASH!" with her halberd xP
About the clop debate: The pretty much best thing I've read in romance matter, has been "Romance Reports". Think it's been mentioned before thou.
Also, unrelated to anything: I've kinda recently been playing to much Kirby. And it's happy crack. (Anyone who has seen the Jimqusition "National Kirby day" knows what I'm on about) played with my friend yesterday. And we concluded how awesome Crystal Shards for 64 was, it has an epic combination system. And for the wii game, Meta Knight is to swag, he got the swagmobile ability that owns everything,just place a electric charged Kirby on top, use the Meta-Swag, and you win any map that is not a narrow hallway. Also, he got way to much glorification in the movie scenes. Waddle Doo really needed some better personality, I mean, he didn't even get a voice, the poor guy. Dedede was just bein' Pimp as always, going "*King Dedede noise*" and swinging his hammer around. Kirby was... Kirby, and Meta Knight was pretty much "Man... this blanket is SO DAMN cozy...", "You can tell on my expression I am so exited right now..." and "I'M THE GOD DAMN META KNIGHT! MY BLADE DEFLECTS THE POWER OF GODS!" despite that, I still love the little bugger xP And I really have to complete the Crystal shards...but it's so damn hard xD
@Kim
ReplyDelete>>. It's what's inside, and how they are that counts.
I know what you meant but I still LOLd at how that can be understood.
Anyway, ponies being human - um,nope.
For me, looking at their social habits, they are right halfway between humans and sentient equines - I'd say, not even regularly halfway, but depending on episode=writer. Sometimes they are written in entirely human way, quarrelsome, sophisticated, sneaky and insensitive, sometimes they are very equine in extreme level of bond(friendship), deep empathy, acting instinctively under stress, being quick to forgive and forget minor faults while holding major grudges forever, and many other features very characteristic to horse psyche.
Romance Reports is fantastic.
ReplyDelete@Random Blank Dude, I got like, 9 ranks in having people misinterpreter me xD
ReplyDeleteBut yeah, as said, we think things are "human", since it's all we know and can "personally" relate to. They have a vitally different way of living compared to us, technically, so does ex: elves or krogans (no idea if that last is spelled right xP)
@Stephen: I won't lie, RR (and a few of the very rare "spa" fics) has been the few that has got... "blood flowing" to put it oddly xP They could be clopped to, but... at the same time, it felt to good to clop to. It's like cracking open anything really new and expensive... you WANT to "play" with it, but at the same time... you'd just make it dirty xP So yeah, it was awesome, but at the same time, I thought it was a bit to good to "ruin the moment" with xD
@Random Blank
ReplyDeleteIf only sentient horses existed, or any other sentient life form we could communicate with. That would be so... cool. Besides, other sentients should exist, in all probability, somewhere else.
Reminds me of the ST:DS9 episode If Wishes Were Horses, where a race of telepathic, non-corporeal beings manifest themselves as images from the wishes or dreams of the life forms they encounter.
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteHumans: Forever Alone? :(
I want my FTL reality-breaking interstellar travel now, not a few centuries from now!
@Derpmind
ReplyDeleteMe too...
I WANT IT NAO!
@Stephen Cawking
ReplyDeleteThis.
@Derpmind
*Twilight lecture glasses*
Well, life appeared on Earth practically as soon as the proteins were capable of holding together, once the Late Heavy Bombardment stopped pasting the planet with a mass-extinction class impact every hundred years or so. So that's good news in the life department -- keeping in mind that we only have one data point to work from, life seems likely to appear in any environment that can support it.
Intelligent life is a far bigger dice roll. The vast majority of Earth's history was spent in unicellular mode, and intelligence didn't arise for most of the multicellular period, either. So it seems likely to be fairly rare compared to life-bearing worlds. It's an amazing survival mechanism once developed, but it's biologically expensive to work up to.
My own personal opinion is the scenario I like to call "Stewards of the Universe" -- that life is common but intelligence vanishingly rare, and humanity should feel free to harvest the bounty of the universe without worrying about intelligences that will probably never develop.
(The other scenarios are "All These Worlds Are Yours", a largely lifeless universe where there's little reason not to strip-mine everything that can't be terraformed, and "The Galactic Community", where intelligence is common and habitable worlds probably have natives already.)
As for FTL, it's... unlikely, barring some obscenely convoluted twist of physics that we've somehow overlooked to this point. General Relativity pretty much guarantees that any form of FTL communication is equivalent to time travel, which destroys all physics forever.
the thing is, homo sapiens wiped out the other sentient species on the planet...
ReplyDeleteeinstein rosenburg bridge...
ReplyDelete@silentcarto Sadly (as Rum stated) humans are EXTREMELY stupid and destructive. We've wiped out countless species and natural resources just since we were lazy or cba to check it. The Dodo got killed since they were cheap to just collect, kill and eat off that one island, somehow they became fewer and fewer as it became a more common stop, and suddenly they just wasn't there any more... and the sailors just didn't know why or how, the last time there were here and killed and ate half of the remaining birds, there was still 20 left... so yeah, as said, we either realize something got fucked up by us after it's destroyed, or when it's on the brink of collapse.
ReplyDeleteSo even thou I'd want to see another sentient race, I don't think humans would handle it well. At least not currently.
There's one more option rather viable: intelligent life, as rare as it is, is not unique to Earth, and occurred elsewhere as well. They happened earlier, and had hundreds of thousands of years of civilization development, as opposed to our ~4000. They didn't overcome the speed of light limit so they didn't spread into our area of the galaxy (or maybe they did, and they are a thousand galaxies away, they could arrive here within seconds if they only knew there is intelligent life here), and specifically decided that a single monolithic civilization, a single uniform body is ultimately vulnerable (maybe they found ruins of a prior one).
ReplyDeleteThe key to survival is diversity, a wildly wide one. So they engineered themselves into a wide variety of species, settling different planets and often loosening bonds between each other - full variety, galactic empires and lonely colonies, spread far and wide, developing independently, sometimes trading technology and inventions, sometimes depending on their own. Some might have even quite regressed civilizationally - that's okay, as long as diversity remains.
From time to time they find other lifeforms, sometimes intelligent. The contacts are just as diverse as them, ranging from conquer&burn through friendship to completely ignoring the "aliens". Any group of them may discover Earth at any time.
...Some of more extreme "diversifists" decided a marshmallowy equine form with inborn physics-bending powers would be a good idea...
Say what you want, I find the idea that it would be humans who would discover the others first, that humans would be the more advanced ones, or even that the humans would be the first discovered by the aliens seems very arrogant to me. The time of our civilization is so short in the galactic scale, that if ever any other sprouted, the likehood that it's vastly older and more advanced than ours, as opposed to "similar" or "less advanced" is enormous.
@Random Blank Yeah, I don't really see humans as the first race to make contact. That, and I wouldn't trust other races to much either. I could quite easily see them being aggressive.
ReplyDeleteAnd meh... I just sat and stared into space for 10 minutes, not knowing what I was doing, derp.
Also, anyone that is proofreading my story, I know I haven't checked it yet, but I've actually added 2 new scenes. And I will check the correction things once finished with those... then after that, I will try to fix that last test part.
Totally unrelated to anything (AND TMI) but: Hum... is it odd my current "zen" state of writing is: naked, gecko on shoulder, with quite loud pony music in headphones, while eating an apple and driking juice with a straw? xD
ReplyDelete@Kim
ReplyDeleteWHAT HAVE I SAID ABOUT YOU.
ahahhaha.
Seriously. Stop, now.
otherwise I'll have to say the c word again, and I have a very weird/broad spectrum of what is .... it.
Seriously though? that's awesome. lol.
@silentcarto
ReplyDeleteYou're right, going from point A to point B any sooner than it takes light to travel normally is clearly impossible.
If a method was obvious and easy, we would have already done it. No matter how hard the impossible is, people will still strive to achieve it.
Besides, there's no way our current understanding of physics is anywhere close to complete.
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ReplyDelete@WaffleSmart
ReplyDeleteNot horses, specifically.
@Kippershy Actually, tbh, I am quite unsure of what you just said ^^'
ReplyDeleteI'll just go back to writing bad stuff xP
... right after I sacrifice this here cricket to the mighty gecko of eyeball-licking.
@Kim
ReplyDeleteYou're implying that humans are any worse than any other type of animal. Entire species are often killed of by their natural predator, humans aren't the first species to kill off another. This happens naturally in nature, the superior creature wins.
The problem is that we're SO superior to every other species. By I don't mean that human life is any more valuable than that of any other species. I mean that we're A LOT better at survival. So much so that we risk driving every other species to extinction. I think that the fact that we're aware that we're driving these species to extinction, and are trying to prevent it, makes us a lot smarter than most other species on the planet. Let's not start a "human hating" conversation, it's the worst type of internet discussion.
@theBSDude
ReplyDeleteThat may be less creepy, but it's still extremely shallow
@Kim
ReplyDeleteThat is absolutely cute =3
I want a gecko!
@Kim
ReplyDeleteOkay, first? I refuse to feel guilty for outcompeting a rival species before my own discovered agriculture.
Second, The word 'steward' implies taking care of your surroundings. Life is worth protecting (as Sweetie Bot reminds us), but at the same time, there's not much point in tip-toeing around a planet full of microbial soup until its star burns out.
Third, yes, most cultures prior to the 20th century didn't even have a concept of environmentalism, much less try to preserve particular species. But we learned from that lesson. Again, I refuse to feel guilty over the actions of people who died over a century ago. We're trying to do better now, and that's what counts.
@Derpmind
Our understanding of physics isn't complete, but we've sketched in all the big chunks.
It's more like focusing a telescope than putting together a puzzle; Newton's laws of motion and the Chemical Revolution explained the universe adequately at human scales of size and time and conventional speeds. Bohr's atomic model and relativistic physics explained things more correctly at extremely large and small scales and at high energies, but the older versions are still correct within their limitations. Quantum physics sharpened the picture yet further, but it still reduces to Newtonian physics when you average out all the subatomic wobbling.
Further advances will yield even 'more correct' solutions, but the improvements will come in the form of exceptions and caveats, not invalidating a previous model.
somber I'm sorry to say this, but... I need another chapter...
ReplyDelete@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum
ReplyDelete39 is coming along. I can't speak for Somber, but hopefully it should be set for release on saturday or, with some luck, perhaps thursday or friday, depending on editor availability.
On that note, please don't bug Somber for chapters. He's just gotten over an illness and is already working very hard; please let him get things done at his own pace.
@Snipehamster
ReplyDeleteTo be honest, I think most of us are just glad he does this at all. I know I am.
Like the majority of us say; we can wait, we'd love to read the next chapter sooner, but by no means does that mean Somber should feel pressured.
Writing a fic myself I've come to understand how much work it really is, even when you have everything planned out - it's still a lot of effort.
@Somber
ReplyDeleteLove you, so much love.
You may not know it, but this story has had a profound effect on my life.
Thank you, Somber, for one of the greatest stories I've ever read.
I will be an old man, in a nursing home possibly, I'll still pull this out and be reading it. You are a genius.
Thank you, thank you so much for doing what you do.
@WaffleSmart Yes, it's "happened before", but we don't do it for survival in many times, we just do it for "it's easier". Like with the Dodo, or ex: killing ~30 elephants just for the tusks, not using any of the meat. We waste animals, so we're not doing it "naturally". Plus, no animal has so far used atomic bombs or ruined soil or vegetation quite like us.
ReplyDeleteBut yeah, we can take another topic.
@Kipper: Gecko's are the soft. And if I can get ~5 more people to admit my gecko as a deity, I have right by law to make it a religion xD
@Silent: I'm quite sure our ancestors did way worse things than just "out-compete" them, if you know what I'm saying...
And yeah, there's no point tip toeing, but completely ignoring everything for purpose of personal comfort is not a good way to go on about it with the "why should I care? that's my children's children's problem, I won't be alive then.". Humans have very easy to aim for extremely short term gains. Take rain forests, the soil is useless to grow on, but it can be done for a few years, then it is completely ruined. What do we do? Take the few years since it currently saves us time and money. Similar was with trash. We COULD recycle, but much more easy to just pile it up. Then when the junk-yards became gargantuan, then we started going "Hm... maybe stacking the garbage doesn't work for 100 years after all...".
And oh, I am not feeling guilty over it, I am just going "Sigh... humans..." up until very recently, we haven't been a to good example of a species. And do note it's just a quite big quotation sign on the "we have learned/doing better now". Tbh, I don't have the best faith in humans, but it seems to finally might be turning around.
Unrelated to any of this, and a dumb thing to even mention but: On a scale of 1-10, how stupid is it even of me to even consider pulling a "Glory" on Somber? I know there's no way to do one, but it crossed my sleep riddled mind.
Actually, Neanderthals are not completely extinct, as a small amount of humans are descendants of crossbreeding. They may have been stronger and 'dumber', but they were a lot like us 'Wise Men'.
ReplyDelete@Kim
I presume utter chaos will ensue after we run out of fuel, and my generation will most likely die before the previous one. Transport services will cease to exist for fresh food, so locally grown and produced foods would become the only source. Which, in our society, is a death sentence. We import more food than we produce by a longshot, and none of it would be possible without fuels. Pollution is also a big issue, but we can fix that a lot easier than mass starvation.
2012 won't kill us all, we will. Yippee. Dead before 30.
Furthermore, with our ballooning population in poorer areas, we have more mouths to feed all the time with less farmspace. We will reach a point when we consume more food than there is enough space to produce it. I think we need mass hydroponics facilities, but the 'cost too much'. Greed will kill us all.
ReplyDelete@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteActually, theory suggests that Neanderthals weren't dumber by any means at all - rather, they were more intelligent and less aggressive, but less successful with breeding.
I can't remember my citation now, so I could be utterly wrong. but yeah. apparently they were taller, stronger and smarter, just they didn't breed as often and chance of pregnancy was lower.
@Kippershy
ReplyDeleteAparently neanderthals were inable to think artisticaly. This means no artwork, stories, etc. Because of this, neanderthals had a much harder time coming up with new inventions, so humans were able to outsmart them with better tools.
@humansarebad discussion
Locusts
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum
ReplyDeleteIf you really can't wait, you can always reread older chapters. They don't suddenly stop being entertaining just because you've read them once or a half dozen times. There's also many other Fallout Equestria stories, some of which are very unique.
@silentcarto
That analogy is beautiful. I really liked reading it. But by your logic, the Heliocentric theory and the Quantum theory are both pictures of the same thing. They're not. All of these are extremely constrained views. There are just too many known unknowns in physics for me to honestly believe that we're running out of unknown unknowns anytime soon. All (mathematically sound) theories hold true for the imaginary universes they exist in where only their rules apply. I believe that new theories will come along that predict those exceptions, and these new theories will have their own unexplainable exceptions. In other words, I think that every theory is right except everywhere that it's wrong. :P
@Kippershy
ReplyDeleteThat's why it is in parentheses. Some theories are that they were dumber, others say they were smarter. We will never know unless we develop time travel or somehow create a Neanderthal. They did lose the evolution race somehow, we don't know where.
@Snipehamster
ReplyDeleteDon't take me for a lout.
I am as aware of the situation as you are. I did not demand a chapter, I expressed a need and desire for one. There is a difference.
For example, "Somber hurry up, I need my fix, get that chapter up fast." Would be a demand.
Saying "I need another chapter" implies nothing of haste or demand, as it is merely an expression of desire.
Don't take me for being ungrateful for his generosity. I recall I've encouraged him to take his time; to cut back a little of the time he dedicates to writing so he can do other things.
Sinus infections are extremely painful, not to mention life threatening if left untreated. Obviously he is still recovering.
Honestly, if you've been lurking, you would be aware of this.
@Derpmind
ReplyDeleteSort of like mathematics, physics work because we think they do. We create the little theories and 'rules' to follow, yet they might make very little sense to everyone who didn't develop them. Math lesser so, but physics are just the opinions of one or more smart-ish people. An alien species might use a totally different math system, because it make sense to them.
@WaffleSmart
Locusts are terribly destructive, but we can stop them. They don't use intelligence to destroy the Earth, they use instinct. They have to do what they do to survive. We destroy the planet for convenience or greed.
Or, you are talking about GoW's Locust, who cannot exist due to lack of Hollow Earth evidence. You probably knew that, and were not talking about them, though.
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum
ReplyDeleteWe all want another chapter, and Somber knows that. But we can wait, because you guys understand the problems Somber has to deal with. I don't really, but I am patient and content with waiting for another epic chapter in a story of a ridiculous scale. For free. Well, until I can donate, that is. :P
@Derpmind
ReplyDeleteThanks derpmind
I have considered picking up new stories, however it would trigger a marathon reading session. I really can't afford to dedicate myself to that. You see I don't read a chapter here and there until I catch up. No, I read until I am caught up, forsaking almost everything. I meet my obligations, but everything goes to shit. I mean things are already pretty shitty as it is, so I think I need to hold off on picking up another side story.
All I can do it shine and complain to myself and get super excited with next chapter. Honestly I cannot wait for the ending. I simply must read it.
As far as starting it over, its actually a great thing to do. I love rereading this particular story because like you said something new pops out at you every time. I have been tempted to print out the story, get it duplexed and set in a three ring binder. Only I haven't the ink resources and I am wary of dedicating my stepfather's office resources to this as it would still be costly for them. I am soo tempted, especially since they have white paper with holes already punched in it! how awesome is that?
On to this, I have given some thought and said to myself, when PH is complete, and it will be. If I were to print it, I would try to break it into three "books" I have decided to name them "Security", "Ante Up" and finally "Blackjack". What do you think of these?
@ketchup504 Yeah, and taking that 50 % of earth's population is a "unplanned mistake" doesn't make the situation better.
ReplyDeleteBut yeah, faith in humanity? Not that high xP Kinda doubt I will live long enough to witness the world being fucked up more thou. Or the rarer event it would be fixed. So many miss the "you can't eat money" logic.
And whew... only ~7 % left on my fic now, yay. Althou, I still have to check over all the proofreading and fix that last part of it.
For anyone who's interested, here's my attempt at a map of Equestria:
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@ketchup, Kim
ReplyDeleteThe other side's argument is that those things that, in humans, we call laziness, greed, selfishness, and shortsightedness, is called "instinct" in every other living creature.
@theBSDude That is a fair opinion. But Humans are not all selfish, lazy, greedy, and shortsighted. Take Gandhi, for example, he was none of those. We are easily the most diverse species on the planet, as some groups have different values than another. We call this culture. Animals don't have culture, do they?
ReplyDeleteCompared to animals, we are more influenced by our thoughts and feelings than we are by our survival instincts, as we meet them easily. We do, as a common rule, practice slight greed and selfishness, because they effect us favorably in most situations. But, most practice neither in excess. We are usually shortsighted due to our inability to accurately predict the future. Not much we can do about that. Laziness is resting when you are not tired. We have no need to work as hard as our ancestors to survive, so we rest until we need to work. Virtually no wild animals can do that. Domestic animals do because we take care of any needs they have, so they don't have to hunt. Usually.
@ketchup504
ReplyDeleteWell, I don't know about "best", but I'll try my hardest to keep it cute and interesting.
As for ghost-Boo, perhaps - I'll just wait and see what happens - last minute plans are best plans heh.
@RoboRed
Thank you, sir, and yeah, definitely sad.
@Overlong Analysis Cobalt
Thank you, she makes it easy for me to try my best to make her cute somehow, heh.
@silentcarto
Hey! Her advice isn't b-
No, you're probably right, it would be a terrible idea to follow her advice.
Actually about half of the messages to her right now are serious questions, it kinda shocked me, heh.
I do believe I'll stay out of these serious conversations going on, and just post more Boo (and Blackjack).
http://boo-project-horizons.tumblr.com/post/19333722602
Well, had a bit of a break through today. Got a solid ten pages done. Two scenes left to go... so definitely done Friday or Saturday...
ReplyDeleteSorry for the failure on my part.
Now, off to bed.
@Somber
ReplyDeleteHey, 10 pages is great for one day! Just keep trying your best, sir, you have nothing to be sorry about. Sleep tight. *hugs*
@Kim
ReplyDelete>>pulling a "Glory" on Somber?
You mean tying him to a bed, blindfolding, gagging, and then giving him oral till you blow his mind?
@ketchup504
The food problem wouldn't be so bad if people went more for efficiency, and less for BEEF&BACON. A cow eats 12 times its own weight before it's ready to be slaughtered. Humans would be somewhat more picky and wasteful but still going fully vegetarian would easily triple food production of the world with the same land and resource use.
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum
Heroes with wings.
3 chapters so far, so not much catching up.
@theBSDude
>those things that, in humans, we call laziness, greed, selfishness, and shortsightedness, is called "instinct" in every other living creature.
I agree with laziness. Shortsightedness means we fail to use our brains we so pride ourselves in possessing. Being no better than animals in area which we like to claim we are better in.
Selfishness exists with solitary species, but you'd be really surprised how herd species could be "generous" to members of the herd.
And greed? What other animal hoards more than they can use? Which will betray the members of own pack, risking the whole group for own profit?
Man, I wish necromancy worked so I could raise up zombie Kropotkin and have him talk about human nature, that'd be so awesome! He'd totally have cool stuff to say about all this, and he'd love MLPFIM.
ReplyDelete@Wavemaster
Oh my goodness, this may be the fever talking but that comic gives me this amazing feeling of mixed sadness and happiness. Boo is as adorable as ever, but the tragedy of her existence up to being found by Blackjack is so accentuated by her idealized mental image of her... and it's both really sweet and really moving.
@Somber
That's great news! You haven't any need to apologize, things happen. Bed sounds like a great idea, too. G'night tout le monde!
Wait, hold on a sec...
@Hinds
Dude! So cool!
@ketchup504
ReplyDelete>>We do, as a common rule, practice slight greed and selfishness, because they effect us favorably in most situations.
The problem is not with "a common rule" but with exceptions.
If some biological defect creates a squirrel that doesn't store just enough to survive winter but keeps storing nuts till no more can be found, maybe one fragment of a forest will be affected.
But if you take a human who hoards money for the purpose of hoarding money, like most owners of world banks, global tragedies happen, whole countries fall and billions of people suffer due to greed of few. If the current amount of hoarded goods was distributed roughly equally throughout the world population, everyone would be upper-middle class. It's that one rich accumulates goods that make thousands poor.
Or a stallion is born with genetic defect that makes him kill other horses. He will kill how many in his lifetime? 100?
As for humans, Hitler?
>>We are usually shortsighted due to our inability to accurately predict the future.
I disagree. We are usually shortsighted due to laziness and comfort of immediate profit. We prefer not to think about future because that may bring uncomfortable thoughts. A person may be marginally aware of risk of global warming, but they still choose to drive three blocks to a gym where they spend a hour on a treadmill. If they paused to think they'd understand the stupidity of their action, but it's not inability, it's laziness - unwillingness to use imagination.
@Kim
ReplyDelete"How stupid is it even of me to even consider pulling a "Glory" on Somber?"
You mean shooting him in the face with a laser pistol?
@Admiral guy
You do realize that, no matter what your tone, you're going to have the same effect?
@Stephen, Random
ReplyDelete"How stupid is it even of me to even consider pulling a "Glory" on Somber?"
One answer burned in my brain not pleasant image, other make me laugh.
Call me weird, but I laugh at 'shooting him in the face with a laser pistol'
@Katarn
ReplyDeleteon second thought both of this make me giggle.
>One answer burned in my brain not pleasant image
ReplyDeleteWait, lasers to the face burn in your brain, but not pleasant images!
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum
ReplyDeleteI have been lurking, and I'm not trying to suggest that you, or anyone else, is being ungrateful. However, the fact is that you're putting undue pressure on Somber. There's been a few "I need a chapter" or "where's the chapter" posts lately - not just from you - and I think it would be better for everyone if they stopped. That's all.
@Random Blank
ReplyDeleteI know it was BJ, but laser to the face make some scar on it...if I remember thing right (if not, I swear, I will reread all story again).
Somber would look pretty badass...or like villain. In every story, someone with scar on the face looks badass or like villain...or badass villain :D
With everyone drawing Boo, I decided to give it a shot as well.
ReplyDeleteHere's my interpretation: link
@Necr0maNceR
ReplyDeleteI really like it :) It's a more standard pony feel over Waves cutesy Boo - not that its a bad thing he does her that way, I love her that way, but yeah. gives her more of a normal pony look, which is also great!
Kim,
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure random blank's version of the Glory method would be counter intuitive to what you hope to accomplish given his history.
@ suggested reading Material.
I'm actually following heroes with wings... actually I've been following JustMoth since before he started his Wings project.
I think
@ Somber
10 pages is incredible progress, here's to you Somber. No need to apologize for my greed.
@ Random Blank ie Human Nature
"Don't think about it."
Sounds familiar doesn't it?
10 pages is way more then I ever manage in a day.
ReplyDeleteI think my best was... 3,500 words in a day perhaps?
Well done Somber on managing to break through your spot of trouble.
@theBSDude Partially, but they are not sentient. That, and an animal wouldn't kill a prey when not hungry, just for the kicks, then leave it to rot. (only like ex: animals in self defence that aren't carnivore or can eat something that big does it)
ReplyDelete@Random: Why do you think I just explained it as quotation signs... it's called subtlety/grace xP Also, quite sure there was no gag... or maybe it was removed later.. yeah, that seems kinda plausible.
@Stephen: No, you have to be more imaginative. About everyone BJ meets tries or have shot her in the face or somewhere on her body xP Think deeper, something more "what has only she done"? (random fact, I actually suggested said action like, around 1 thread ago... partially since I wanted one myself at the time heh)And besides, where would I find a laser pistol?
@Katarn: "Scar on face" just makes me think of a certain wizard...
@Rum: I'm pretty sure both methods would accomplish that tbh. Neither would be any good ^^'
But yeah... that's pretty much everyday thoughts for me, even thou I know they are bad... or as said, have thought about getting them myself.
@Kim
ReplyDeleteDolphins kill for fun. They also rape and torture.
@Re: rest of discussion
I'm not trying to say that humans aren't wrong to do what they do, or even that they shouldn't be blamed/punished for it. I'm saying it makes sense. I'm saying that human behavior is not evil beyond the ken of nature. All these damaging behaviors obviously worked pretty well for our river-dwelling ancestors, otherwise the behavior wouldn't have been passed on.
Kim hit the nail on the head though: we're sentient, animals aren't. It's a "great power; great responsibility" thing. We can't afford to act just however we want, but when some people give into their base instincts, we shouldn't be surprised. They're merely failing to overcome millennia of breeding.
The singularity can't come fast enough.
@theBSDude
ReplyDeleteYes, I am so goddamn cynical that I look optimistic from a distance.
@theBSDude Dolphins are also highly intelligent for an animal, they also have sex just for fun. Also, did you know a female dolphin have more muscles in their vagina then a well buffed human got in their arm. So yeah, technically they can grapple shit with their genitals... or tear off... dolphins are freaky thou, male dolphins ejaculate sperm in ridiculous speeds, and female ones have super buffed vulva's.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, I will admit it would be sweet to have that much muscles down there, not exactly sure what'd they be good for... apart from like, being able to sit still and just flex a guy off xD ... or lock them in place xD Ah well, can still swag about being endowed xP
@Kim
ReplyDeleteYou keep saying "we" as if slash-and-burn agriculture or hunting species to extinction were somehow accepted practices.
@Derpmind
It's not the same thing at all. Heliocentrism is demonstrably wrong -- all you have to do is observe the solar system to prove it. It was a nonscientific idea based on religion, not observation.
Newtonian physics, on the other hand, is demonstrably right. We can make ballistic calculations all day long, even explain the motions of the planets and go into orbit ourselves, without ever messing around with relativistic physics.
While it becomes inaccurate at high velocity, Newtonian laws are never actually broken -- gravity still attracts with a force proportional to its mass and every action still produces an equal and opposite reaction. In fact, relativity ensures that each observer's perceptions bend to make it continue to work from their perspective.
One of the basic tenets of relativity and of quantum physics, likewise, is that information cannot be transferred faster than light speed. And as much as I would love for that to not be the case, simple logic dictates that doing so would inevitably create paradoxes. It doesn't matter if you could somehow cheat the universe into thinking you weren't really moving faster than light -- you would still be able to shoot yourself before you left, and that doesn't make any damn sense.
@Derpmind
ReplyDeleteDURP. I was thinking "geocentrism".
I guess I don't understand what you mean, they're not both pictures of the same thing. They are. Quantum physics derives to relativity when you integrate it across all probabilities.
@WavemasterRyx
ReplyDeleteYou have no idea how hard I'm fighting to stifle giggles at Boo's mental image of BJ.
Testing, testing. Comments working now?
ReplyDelete@O. Hinds
ReplyDeleteVery good.
@Kim
ReplyDeleteHuh, I've never seen a conversation Be derailed by dolphin vaginas before, this is a first
Oh they're finally working again? Yay.
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@O. Hinds
Pretty sweet looking map, sir. I love maps, those and architecture are two of my greater weaknesses.
@Overlong Analysis Cobalt
Fevers aren't good at all, I hope you feel better soon, sir. However, if you attempt to learn necromancy and your fever worsens, I suggest finding Zecora post-haste.
And wow... I didn't know I'd made a simple answer that deeply meaningful, thank you so much. *smiles*
@silentcarto
This is more of the reaction I was expecting, heh. Giggling is good, so thank you too!
@WaffleSmart
ReplyDeleteWelcome to the Internet: We have dolphin vaginas.
you can exercise a vagina...also the human arm does not have very many muscles in it to begin with... So, kim when you say more muscles do you mean number or muscle volume?
ReplyDeleteThe doctor versus a jedi... who wins?
ReplyDelete@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum
ReplyDeleteThat depends on the type of competition.
Doctor versus sith then
ReplyDelete@WaffleSmart
ReplyDeleteVery nice morning I have now. Just woke up and want to read PH thread, but dolphins, with their vaginas derailed topic...thanks for my good mood guys and girls ^_^
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum
ReplyDeletethe Sith and Jedi were both species, and they both died out. They're ideology and combat styles were taught to others to preserve them. I am not sure which Doctor you are referring to, but I'm thinking he wouldn't win in most combative situations.
@Kim
I already knew that dolphins were batshit crazy. That they kill for fun and rape things. They are still adorable to the ignorant population though.
Off topic... But I have got to stop taking naps. From 8:30 PM to 10:45 PM as it was yesterday, and today I slept from 8:30 PM to 2:30 AM. This has not been good so far for my already erratic sleep cycle.
ReplyDelete@Stephen Cawking
ReplyDeleteI may need to check Simply Rarity out. It sounds like something I might have read before, but there's a bunch of sad stuff I've read before and haven't marked, so I'll go check it out.
@O. Hinds
Jolly good show, sir. Well done.
@WavemasterRyx
BLACKJACK IS NOW SHINING ARMOR. (lolz)
@Somber
Once I get this drawing thing figured out, I do plan to draw Somber pony.
There will be gloom and sadness and depression.
Followed by lots of hugs and love.
(probably humor of some sort, too, knowing my silly brain)
@Kim
Face-crushing vagnial muscles...
...right...riiiiight...
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum
Answer #1: No matter who is fighting who, the answer is always BATMAN.
Answer #2: I vote The Doctor (#10 to be precise). Because he's just that awesome.
@RoboRed
ReplyDeleteIronically when I was drawing Blacjack, I kept drawing her with her usual mane style and it just felt "not regal enough", so I gave her the wavy mane instead. Then I looked up a reference for Shining Armor on ponibooru since I wanted to give Blackjack some fancy clothes, and saw that the artist had drawn Shining Armor with the exact same style mane as Blackjack normally has. I facehoofed. So. Hard.
Wait... and I just realized... if Blackjack is Shining Armor... then I just reinforced her relationship to Twilight. Again.
How does this keep happening?!
Fff- accidentally removed my reply, this sucks cervix big time... and I had just re-written it for the third time. *BUY SOME APPLES*
ReplyDelete@Silent: I referred to "us" as "we" since I didn't see it as a small enough minority. Like some cannibalistic, rapist tribe on some island over in fuck knows. I'd go Velvet logic there and say "They're not ponies".
We could talk about vulva's instead if you want? People say I got a minor obsession about them, knowing more then any non-gynaecologist should know xD
(Forgot what I mentioned here)
Totally random: If P-21 would have a "pet name" for "his little friend", what do you think it would be? (preferably to work in pre-wasteland, but any reference to anything in the story would be neat to)
And *maniacal giggle*. My story is technically done! I just have to keep correcting the grammar and whatnot now that the writing part is done. :P ... and possibly apply some more duct tape on dat death scene...
@WaffleSmart You think that's random? You should see some of my other de-railments xD
@Rum: I am fully aware of that ;P *flex* xD
And I'm not sure, all I know is that I read that they got "more".
@Ketchup: Ignorance (?) is bliss eh?
And @off topic: My own sleep cycle is rather fucked up to heh.
@Robo: Pher the vulva and it's mighty vagina, holding powers over both life and death xD
"Little P-21"
ReplyDelete@swicked
ReplyDeleteAdd to that a sudden, severe sinus and ear infection.
What the crap is happening to me?
@I don't remember
Someone once recommended a fic called Carousel as one that was supposed to induce tears. It didn't. I'm not even sure what was supposed to be sad about it... it had a relatively happy ending.
@Somber
Yay!
@Kim:
ReplyDeleteMr. P.
21 inches.
@Random Blank
ReplyDeleteOh god, I'm laughing so hard
Been trying to comment for over 24h now. Blogger went down and then I was forced to use my iPod touch, which totally sucks for trying to comment here because most of the time it fails and eats the thing.
ReplyDeleteOn the environmental topic, about Dodos, it wasn't people actively killing them which was the problem. Indeed, Dodos weren't good to eat and were so docile hunting them for sport wasn't worth the time. The big problem was new land based predators bought with the ships like rats and dogs which killed all the chicks in the nests.
Whenever people migrate to a new area there's effectively a mass extinction, usually of the larger, more slowly reproducing animals, like the giant sloth thing in North America.
I'm particularly annoyed that the Moa got wiped out, since that was the staple food of the largest modern eagle in the world, which although was revered by the people it died out only a few hundred years ago. It would have been the size of the big sea eagles but with feet proportioned like terrestrial hunters- in short both magnificent and terrifying.
Thing is, once something's gone it won't ever come back so we've seriously got to look after the environment. Taking the stance that they died out because they weren't well adapted enough is pretty bull when you can damn well do something about it. Also, we frankly have no idea how everything fits together so if one thing dies out a whole ecosystem could collapse (there's actually one example where without a type of orchid a large section of tropical rainforest would die, including a popular fruit bearing tree) which would be bad for everything and everyone. The worst damage is usually done at sea where noone but divers can see it, since its out of sight, out of mind.
@Stephen Cawking That wouldn't make much sense as it'd mean he'd either call it "Little P-x" from up to 1 to 20... and I guess that technically can make sense, but eh xP
ReplyDelete@Swicked: That sounds like it sucks cervix/dock. My moods been a steady sway ^^'
@Random: Make that centimetres and it would make sense xP I'm finding it amusing, but it would be a bit iffy if he'd call it that xP So far it's about the best I got thou...
@Kim Totally random, would "Little P" or "Little Peep" be bad form to call it? xP
ReplyDelete@WavemasterRyx
ReplyDeleteThanks for the concern, but I'm pretty sure I'll be fine :) - I get these pretty regularly in the spring at college. Plus, the first day or so is usually kind of fun! Fever alters my consciousness a bit, which makes it exceptionally difficult to concentrate on anything (the pain helps with that, too), which in turn means that I don't get stuck in unhappy cyclical thinking! Fever and the aches that come with it are way more preferable. (Oh, and now my ear is bleeding, derp. Today, my body has decided to be silly. =P) Good advice about the necromancy, I reckon.
Thanks for making it, I really liked it! :)
@swicked
Ya might have strep - I got a case of strep in my ear once (well, inner ear) and I couldn't move for about a week because of intense motion sickness (vomit inducing). It also did the usual strep stuff, though, including sinus and fever and whatnot. Good luck with the sinus stuff and everything else!
@Admiral Stoic "Crusader" Rum
ReplyDeleteThe Doctor. The Doctor always wins. Sure, Jedi have the force and their light sabers, but the doctor would probably do something clever like emit a bio magnetic pulse that interferes with the Jedi's metachlorines so they can't use the force and then use his sonic screw driver to short out their light sabers thus rendering them completely helpless. Same goes for the Sith.