Tuesday, September 20, 2011

Story Updates: September 20

This seems to be working out pretty well, so I think I'll continue filing story updates in this fashion.  I might split a few off every once in a while, but keeping them compiled like this gives everyone a specific spot to find them, and allows new stories to chill in the fanfiction tab without being spammed off by updates.

Just a reminder for everyone who is confused:
  • These posts are ONLY for Fanfiction updates, not new stories
  • Final update (Complete) Stories will not appear here, but will instead bump.  A lot of people wait until the long series stuff completes before diving in. 
  • I'm taking suggestions on how to improve these posts, feel free to drop a line in comments. 
All updates are after the break! 



[Grimdark][Sci-Fi][Adventure]
Description: Foreign missionary ponies: an old preacher, a scarred Pegasus, a cocky Earth pony, and a cybernetic mare come to Equestria. Threatened, Celestia is taken over by her inner demons. The land is plummeted into a chaos. Can these ponies bring the light back into this darkened nightmare?
Blazing Glory (Chapter 15)


[Normal]

Description: Two young fillies, Octavia and Vinyl, enroll for one of the most esteemed musical academies in Equestria, the Canterlot School for Young Musicians.
The Sound of Equestria (Chapter 2)

[Normal] Oh lawdy it's these two.
Description: A class field trip to Sweet Apple Acres goes awry when rogue weather from Everfree Forest drifts in. Making matters worse, Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon find themselves separated from the class and left to deal with the storm on their own.
Heart of Silver (Chapter 2)

[Grimdark-War][Adventure]
Description: Welcome to the new Equestria, Twilight Sparkle. See your friends at each other's throats? You have to choose between them now, to stop the heartache of war with decisive victory. For the nation lies bleeding, its harmony shattered into a million pieces. Black and white and right and wrong have blurred together.

You must choose wisely, or all shall die.
Sunset: For Want of a Dawn (Story 3 Chapter 4)

[Normal] Prince Blueblood slipped up again! Apparently it's pretty awesome too, since it hit 6 stars.
Description: A heated confrontation with Celestia over her portrayal as Nightmare Moon and her sister's authoritarianism leads Luna to search for answers about the past, unwittingly tangling Twilight and her friends into a cosmic struggle between order and chaos that ultimately inspires only more questions. Set one year after the first two episodes.
Frigid Winds and Burning Hearts (Chapter 8)


[Normal] [Crossover] [Comedy] [Shipping]

Description: 
Wooly Fetlocks, the legendary fashion designer, has finally returned from his mysterious sabbatical. His wondrous 
    and beautiful fashions flow to the far reaches of Equestria once more. Of particular interest are his affordable 
    designer socks, of which five packages contain golden tickets which will allow the bearer entry to the 
    hidden world of Fetlocks' factory. Luna is deeply enamored with Fetlocks' socks, and actively seeks a ticket.
    Will Luna acquire a golden ticket? Will she win Fetlocks' secret prize? What mysteries await inside of Fetlocks' Factory?
Would you mind altering this? If so, thank you. If not, I understand.


Wooly Fetlocks and the Fashion Factory (Chapter 6)

NEW IMAGE
[Grimdark] [Crossover]
Description: Equestria is growing, and magical savant Twilight Sparkle is disgusted by the crime and corruption this change has brought. Her life is changed forever when she discovers the Death Note, a notebook with inexplicable and deadly powers. She uses this book to pass judgement on those she deems unworthy of life, aiming to create a perfect world free of crime. But when the two Princesses put their best pony on the case, a mysterious detective known only as “L”, a psychological game of cat and mouse erupts between the two.
Death Note: Equestria (Chapter 4)

[Crossover][Grimdark] Dead Space and Ponies time!
Description: The mysterious theft of a long forgotten treasure from the capital of Canterlot begins a desperate search for the thief and a struggle to preserve life in the world. A dark threat that will require the assistance of a hero from another world.
Pony Space (Chapter 11)

[Normal][Adventure]
Description: It's been many years since the Imps first invaded Equestria and the first "Specials" appeared. But with the last of "The Six" now fallen under an Imp assault, can Luna recruit and train a new group of heroes to take their place? This story will take a look at one of Equestria's potential futures, where super-powered ponies battle with dark creatures from the reaches of space itself in an effort to save all of Ponykind.
A New Breed (Chapter 20)

[Normal][Crossover]
Description: Spending most of her time studying indoors through the winter season, Twilight Sparkle is given an assignment by Princess Celestia: to form and lead Ponyville's new EHL team, the Ponyville Golden Leafs. Twilight and company hit the rink to learn about hockey and to begin their journey towards the Celestia Cup.
Equestria Hockey League (Chapter 12)

NEW IMAGE
[Shipping] [Normal]

Description: Octavia is part of a rare breed, a pony that can create beautiful music, despite lacking the horn unicorn musicians love. Her love for music is rivalled only by her love of fine whiskey, but not on the rocks, what kind of charlatan are you?
Allegrezza (Chapter 5)

81 comments:

Jelfes said...

Aww man, our suggestions for this were ignored.

wackyteen said...

I just hope Seth doesn't postpone updating a fic for this. Like receiving an update at 9 a.m. and not posting the update till 9 p.m. or whenever.

ELT said...

Haven't read none of these, anypony can recommend any?

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Cold in Gardez said...

Not a huge fan of this new method. I understand things are busy on the front page with Season 2 starting up, but it's way too easy to overlook fics when they're tossed into compilation posts like this.

wackyteen said...

ELT, I haven't either. Although, I'm burnt out on reading fanfictions.

Any REALLY good ones?

Cold in Gardez said...

To clarify that last: there's a lot of information missing in the post. We don't see tags, additional tags, star-ratings, pre-reader comments, etc. All we see is the picture and the author's description. We barely even get the title.

Ace2401 said...

@Cold in Gardez

I agree with this. All that missing information is a big problem.

WavemasterRyx said...

I think this update method for fanfics works nicely as a compromise to keep from spamming the front page too much while still getting more updates out.

Though I agree with at least one thing said last time - I think it would still benefit from having the fic name listed above the picture as well as on the link below the description.

La Barata said...

I really don't like this. Like, at all.

Forderz said...

Consolidation is great, but not at the expense of comments and ratings!

TenchiFreak5 said...

Yeah. Really not liking this being permanent.

There's barely any information about the stories as Cold in Gardez said, and its kind of a shock to suddenly have four stories that I follow all dumped in my lap at once. At least do them twice a day or something to spread them out more.

Cold in Gardez said...

@WavemasterRyx

If update spam is causing an issue, then increase the word count requirement. People don't need to be updating stories with 2500 word chapters when Kkat is doing single chapters with 50,000 words.

(Kkat is unusual, though.)

I fully agree with the "title above the picture" thing, though. It's ridiculous that we see the picture, read the tags, read the description, and only then get to see what the story is named.

Scout said...

The times they are a changin'.

The Nigtly Roundups turned out to be a good decision (even though they became morning round ups). Hopefully, these Update Roundups can be just as useful. hey that just gave me an Idea!

Suguesstion: Call them Update Roundups.

Ciroton said...

I think it would be best to have the following in these posts for each story:

- Name at the top
- Current Star Rating
- Characters
- Additional Tags (Optional)

So, basically like the old way, but multiple stories in one post. That way, readers can pick and choose at their leisure with the same amount of information afforded to a new, or complete, story.

Lightning Delight said...

Eh. I kinda like this version. It makes it easy to see all the updates in one place rather than periodically throughout the day. I also like that completed and new fics get their own main post.

Ficksitup said...

Not exactly a fan of the new method. :/

Miyajima said...

The title definitely needs to be more visible, and above the picture. Perhaps a larger font size.

Aquaman52 said...

@Cold in Gardez

...please tell me Kkat didn't actually post a single 50,000 word chapter. That's skipping right on past "ridiculous" and getting most of the way through "insane".

And if this really is going to be the new method of story updating (which, as I've said before, I disagree vehemently with) I support all the formatting changes except for star ratings. Once a story gets to five-star territory, the difference between 4.5 and 4.9 is almost always subject matter rather than writing skill. I've seen mediocre stories get six stars, and absolutely brilliant stories languish at 4.5 because they took a risk with plot or tone. They're the most relative things on this blog, and I'd much rather not have them included here.

prince flame said...

all these fanfic omg so much yay

Sun Ray said...

lot of good ones today.

Mojo said...

didn't you try this once, make a poll about it and overwhelming the site was against this Seth?

P. Pony Ponyson said...

Fanfictions DO disappear beneath updates and whatnot, and it can be frustrating, but I prefer the old method better. If only for the sole reason that I read 'this format is better' and scrolled down to see that I've missed three chapters of 'Wooly Fetlocks and the Fashion Factory'.

However, I guess it's for the better. This is just a Story Update, but with multiple stories, formatted in much the same way as an ordinary post. The only bothersome part is waiting for such a long time after whatever work I have finished before I can discover what fics have been updated.

mycutiemarkisagun said...

New For Want of a Dawn!

Can't wait to learn more about the Pony Insurgents lol. They've already implied that Pinkie is like Che Guevara. (the REAL misanthropic, mass murdering Che, not this idealized Marxist Jesus that capitalists hilariously slap onto overpriced t-shirts)

Cold in Gardez said...

@Aquaman52

He did. He somehow wrote, edited and published a 50,000 word chapter in the space of 10 days. It was a damn good chapter, and even though I'm a professional writer I couldn't spot any mistakes in it.

It's certainly possible -- 5k words a day isn't insane. Doing 5k words a day, for 10 days in a row, and getting it polished enough to publish is just amazing, however.

With regard to star ratings, I think they're generally useful in splitting out the "good but missing something" 4-stars from the "all-around good" 5-stars. 6-star seems to be fairly random.

1LTdaniels said...

@ELT


I recommend going to the deviant art page of Sunset: For Want of a Dawn (with is the second chapter of the story) and start reading the fanfics there, starting with Words Are Louder , it might seem like a lot but this guy’s work it’s worth every second

http://ciroton.deviantart.com/gallery/

I also recommend the Silent Ponyville series (although it is not listed here), even if you haven’t played Silent Hill (because the plot is not based on the games’ story, but rather on the overall atmosphere, which is the best part)

http://jake-heritagu.deviantart.com/gallery/31046154

PS. I didn’t really like this new system, I can see it has some advantages but I hope that they go back to the old one.

Bladecutter said...

Wooh! Three fics I've been watching updated!

Ddude28 said...

I prefer this method, as an avid Fan fic reader (except shipping), this helps me keep up to date with my daily fan fic intake.

Also woooo! Equestria Hockey League updated!

iastfan112 said...

I'll reiterate what I mentioned in another one of these, I'm not a fan of this method at all. I feel it:
1. Shortchanges the author/story's chance to shine
2. Doesn't convey the information as well
3. It's nice having new stories pop up throughout the day for nice little bursts of reading rather than getting slammed all at once with numerous intriguing stories.

Sethisto said...

It's not supposed to replace the story post, only link to them with a brief bit of information for those following. Some of these have been on the front page 8+ times now, it's just a little bit ridiculous. Stories that deserve air time are being spammed by stuff that has already had plenty of chances to shine.

Ficksitup said...

@Sethisto

So it's generally intended for stories that already have a buttload of updates?

gamejunk88 said...

if your going to continue this seth stories should have info in this post such as star ratings and tags. Also maybe make a poll about formatting?

Sethisto said...

@gamejunk88

Yah, I can include those.

TenchiFreak5 said...

@Sethisto

A fair enough point that I admittedly hadn't considered, but two of the stories in this group are only on their second chapter and are going against absolute monsters with large followings like Sunset and Frigid Winds.

Sounds of Equestria in particular I know hadn't been updated for at least a month and a half before it was put in this post, and it was put alongside what is probably a much more well known Octavia/Scratch story to boot.

banannagram said...

All you have to do to get most of the stuff in the updates is go to the page, highlight most of the required stuff, copy-pasta, and bam. You have a whole lotta information for the updates, and it isn't a problem until you start forgetting page breaks.

mousetrap9261 said...

I like this method. It makes the homepage cleaner. However I would recommend that updated stories get their own post in the "Fics" tab, that way people looking for fics can see the stories that they're following as soon as they update.

Scribejay said...

@Cold in Gardez

Kkat has already written a fic longer than the Lord of The Rings trilogy. Unusual is an understatement.

lesserpoet said...

I can appreciate why this is happening, I mean, it has got to be crazy over there at EqDHq, and y'all do amazing stuff as it is... but I'll throw my hat into the corner of this not being the solution. I've said for a long time that there should be a sidebar of some sort, that updates with the stories, and keeps them there for all to see, cycling through with the last ten or fifteen updates... Sadly I have no idea if this would be too complicated, nor do I have any idea how to accomplish this (Dammit Jim, I'm a writer, not a programmer!) If this is overly complex or time consuming feel free to disregard, but to me that seems like the best solution, as it keeps updates from spamming the front page, while handing out pertinent information (que shows rating, tags, etc...), and allowing for a lengthy time in the spotlight. Just my two cents...

WavemasterRyx said...

@Cold in Gardez
If I recall correctly (and it's not guaranteed), they have tried raising the word requirement once already. It got us to where we are today, and I don't think raising it again would have much of an effect (possibly even a detrimental one?)


Really I think that the amount of information provided (aside from the title as a header for each section) is enough that it should still interest someone in a story if they're still seeing it for the first time. And of course it does link to the story's individual page, so it still gets its proper attention there.

Maybe it's just the me that was dieing for an update to Project Horizons while it was stuck in the pilled-up queue last week, but I really think this Update Roundup is a good thing (or at least the start of one)

Now if you'll excuse me... Heart of Silver!

Zoop said...

I honestly think I like this method better; additional tags, comments, and star ratings are still available - you just have to click the story link and look at all of it on the subsequent page.

Honestly, I'd say that consolidating story updates like this makes it harder, if anything, to miss an update to a story you're following, or to miss a new story that you may want to follow. Instead of scrolling through an ocean of fanfiction posts, you've got everything in one place, packaged together nicely - not unlike a can of sardines, minus the nasty salty fish taste.

If nothing else, I think it's a step in the right direction.

Ford said...

Dashie's cutie mark is flipped in the above pic.

InFamous Spartan said...

YESH PONY SPACE UPDATE!!

oh...erm thanks for the...post, seth...~ *sqeaks*

FredFredNineNine said...

That sounds good Seth. BUT, could you PLEASE make each update of Fallout: Equestria a bump, because I don't want to wait until 8:00 at night to read Kkat's massive but totally worth it chapters when I could have got them at noon

TenchiFreak5 said...

@FredFredNineNine

And how would that not undermine what seems to be the entire point of doing this in the first place?

Sethisto said...

@FredFredNineNine

Fallout equestria breaks the rule by default, it has always skipped the update queue :p kkat pretty much releases an entire completed multi-part fic per update anyway

Hello said...

Maybe you could just put a quick list of the fic names before the break. Good job on the blog!

Hello said...

But there is a NO FANFIC MODE so maybe going back to the old way would be even better...

Fenix said...

For me personally, I don't really mind how the new queue is set up. I'm still amazed that my fic is even on here, let alone having the time spent for someone else to say it has updated.

If there's no real drop in readers, it's not a bad way to go about this.

EDracon said...

pic at the top of rainbowdash is from here
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6153761/

StoryBirth said...

Alright: This is gonna have more than one suggestion, but here I go.

Don't do this for two reasons:

1) Feedback: The author of a fic wants feedback and gets a majority of it off of its EqD post. Now, the idea of giving complete fics a separate post is good, but still, the author wants that feeling of readers saying "I'm liking where this is going. I wonder what'll happen next." or "Whoa! I didn't expect the end of THAT chapter!" With this, each of their updates will only elicit a response about a more popular fanfic that was released at the same time or about the post image.

2) Star System: This would limit the star system to only the first and last chapter, and since it's archived before completion in most cases, it's limited to the first chapter. With this, the star system is kinda pointless when you originally said it was for stories. (Slightly off-topic rant incoming) You should have it so that the story's rating isn't locked, because a fic could drasrically increase (or decrease) over a couple chapters, and the rating for the first chapter may not be appropriate for the rest of the fic.

So that's my rant. I doubt Seth will actually read this (or anyone for that matter) but judging by most comments, it's gonna be taken out.

Sunspark said...

As someone who uses the RSS feed to follow the site - the new way of doing the fanfic updates is much appreciated. Updating the old posts didn't send them back into the RSS feed, and it's much easier to keep track of updates now for me.

Sethisto said...

@StoryBirth

It links to the story post for comments and new chapters, this is just a hub for story updates, click one of them.

No One said...

I think it looks, er, ugly. And cramped.

No One said...

Though I'll forgive it, if FO:E Sidefics get updated here too.

FredFredNineNine said...

@Sethisto

Then this system works for me :)

Nick Nack said...

Well, if this is what it's going to be then, eh...

The stars, titles, and tags have already been mentioned. My question is this, though, is it possible to get the image to hyperlink to the blog article instead of the image's source? If the blog article's image links to the source, then there's nothing lost: people want to get to the stories from these consolidated posts a lot more often than people want to download the images, but the latter group can do that by clicking the image part twice.

I'd also suggest breaking the updates up into two groups: an early afternoon group and a night group. Then, have two update consolidation posts a day. What this does is it spreads out the fics kind of like the old system did (so you're getting 5 at once every 12 hours instead of 10 at once every 24 hours). That way, there's not the overwhelming, "CRAP, 7 OF MY FAVORITE STORIES UPDATED" business for readers, and the stories in each update get slightly more attention than if it were just one big update.

Also, I'd consider having the updated fics in a list at the beginning of the post, before the break. That way, people can just see, "Oh, none I wanted today," or "OH! I LIKE THE THIRD ONE ON THE LIST!" without having to click into the post itself.

Finally, though, I'd push to have the 'fics updated today' list added back to the Nightly Roundups. I've already seen it in my story that this method of updating doesn't give the same amount of viewers as the traditional method (at least ten less readers at the time of the update). Yeah, not a scientific test by any means, but it makes sense: a lot more people see the individual stories when they're posted separately, even if it's only on chapter 3 of 8. Putting the list back in the nightly roundup seems like a good compromise. That way, every story gets to be part of a consolidated list twice, and with a good six to twelve hours in between posts.

I'll clarify a bit on the timing: everything here is done on PST, so I'll use that. Every night between 1:00 and 5:00 PST, the Nightly Roundup goes up. So, I'd probably say to set the fic updates to 11:00 PST and 6:00 PST. Obviously the times are arbitrary and therefore subject to change, but that's the point I'm trying to make.

Tosxychor said...

@Sethisto
Have I ever mentioned I love you Seth?
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Aquaman52 said...

@Scribejay

And that's why I stopped reading FO:E a while ago. I don't have time in my life right now to even try to comprehend how Kkat has the time, dedication, stamina, and fucking batshit lunacy to write 5k words a day for six months straight, let alone to actually read any of it.

Wolfblitz said...

I kind of liked the updates having their individual posts...

Sethisto said...

@Nick Nack

It sort of becomes a time management thing at that point, this post already takes me an hour a day since every single story has updates/fixes that need to be done before it's created. I can't copy paste star ratings, and labels would have to be de-hyperlinked from the copy paste one at a time. It would take a while.

and you can already click the story name in the posts above to go to their story post, it would take forever to add hyperlinks to every image, and not worth it when clicking the text right below it sends you to the same spot.

Did I screw up on one of these links? It sounds like a lot of you think they link to the chapters themselves, and not the actual story pages.

Ignofibininious said...

I know others have already said it, and I think I said it in previous posts, but I REALLY prefer having individual posts. It makes it easier to see labels and stars. I have no problem see a bunch of fanfic posts every day, and those that do have a problem can just click no-fanfiction-mode.

Raefire said...

Yeah, I'm really not a fan of this method either. Too freaking cluttered, and having the fic title only at the bottom of the entry for it is incredibly confusing when scrolling down.

Cold in Gardez said...

@Sethisto

Seth,

It's your blog and all, and frankly we're all just fortunate to have it. By all means, do whatever you think needs to be done.

But...

You asked up above for comments on the new system. People have stated several reasons they either don't like the new format, or ways it could be improved. Every single suggestion you've shot down for requiring too much work or not being enough of a concern.

Why'd you ask us for comments, exactly?

ToonNinja said...

@ELT
Allegrezza's pretty good. For Want of a Dawn is pretty solid, but it's a sequel, so there's some required reading.

Nick Nack said...

@Sethisto
If it takes too long for you to do this... find someone you trust to help you with it. I mean, geez, man, it's not exactly like this is a sparse community.

I'm not following about the labels needing to be de-hyperlinked one at a time. Worst case scenario, couldn't you just paste them into a plaintext editor like Notepad or TextEdit (or whatever Macs use).

The links within pictures is... a luxury, I'll admit. But really, the more ways that users have of doing something, the easier it is for them to do something, especially when there is only one task that needs to be accomplished by the layout of the post: linking to the blog post of the story. I'm pretty sure you'd only be replacing the link of the picture with the link of the story, at any rate, but if it takes too long to do for an added bit of usability for the viewers of the website... that's your call.

I'm pretty sure that the star rating thing is a widget that loads from a source, so you should be able to get the widget itself as part of the HTML that forms each post's position.

As it stands, I'm not a fan of the current format. The title definitely needs to be above the picture, not below it.

There's also a lot of space issues of elements running into one another. Perhaps this would be fixed by having a bit of redundancy and more white space, like having the title (that links to the blog post) and then a link saying "Read More..." (that also links to the blog post) at the bottom?

Another idea might be having fixed-size thumbnails of the images, and then having the title / description / tags to the right of it (kind of like the new blogger layout, which is ugly for the main site, but I think it works for a consolidated preview like this).

Crab Spider Longfang said...

@Sethisto

I would say that FO:E's insane verbosity is it's biggest drawback. Not everyone has the time or patience to sift through 30-plus overly long chapters of post-apocalyptic OCs (Most of whom are either borderline Mary-Sues, walking exposition dispensers, or both) awkwardly re-treading plot points from the Fallout series.

I say it should still be lumped in with the rest of the stories until it finally finishes.

metboy said...

I like these fanfiction update compilation posts. Please continue to do them.

T'laren said...

@Cold in Gardez

The issue with the update spam is how big is too big? 5 K? is that too much for a short and sweet one-shot, or is that too small for the epics out there?

Blinky said...

I prefer this method, it reduces a lot of clutter on the front page. I only start reading a fic when it's started or completed, this way I can quickly scan the post to see if anything I'm following has been updated.

The story titles should be at the top, though. It's confusing how they're reversed from the usual posts.

Cátsy said...

@Sethisto

You should make exceptions for some stories that don't update that often. *cough*Ballad*cough* just saying to give people who may have forgotten a certain fic that it finally updated you know?

It happens when you got like 3-7+ tabs open most being stories old and new. I wouldn't even had noticed that Diamond Tiara FF had updated had I not done a third check on EqD for anything I may have missed.

What about once a FF hits like 5 or 7 updates get tossed into these instead? just a suggestion, I mean I know it's just more work for you =(

FamusJamus said...

@Aquaman52 "Once a story gets to five-star territory, the difference between 4.5 and 4.9 is almost always subject matter rather than writing skill. I've seen mediocre stories get six stars, and absolutely brilliant stories languish at 4.5 because they took a risk with plot or tone."

I've noticed that pretty early on in my EQD experience and, from what I've seen, the mid-star range (2-4ish) is even more wild. For that reason, I don't even bother looking at the star ratings any more.

So, yeah, please don't include them in these updates.

The Lord Of Dust said...

Woohoo! My story was on the top of the list!

Melodia said...

It seems the majority DON'T like this...

A couple more things.
-Why is Fallout: Eq special over ANY other fic just because of its size and popularity? Either it should be ALL or NONE (outside the other points of complete and new getting their own page).

One thing I noticed yesterday -- having the update page actually made me FORGET about the ones not on the update. I almost missed that Once Bitten Twice Shy finished, which would have been a really bad thing.

Another, perhaps less personal and more serious problem, is that putting these in this post actually does NOT change the date at the top of the blog post. So if something is updated with part 3 a month after it last was, the date from a month ago still shows.

But perhaps this is all moot -- The Prince Among Paupers just got an update overnight, and it's not complete. So maybe these posts are already going away.

Somepony Else said...

DAMMIT SETH DO BOLD TITLES FOR EACH ENTRY SO WE ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE CALLED

I'M SO FRUSTRATED I COULD JUST SCREAM


aaaaaaaaaaa

Twitchy.717043 said...

I like this format. It puts it all in one handy place so that way, we don't have to dig through 10+ updates to see if the fic we do read updated. But that's just me.

Exuno said...

If the problem is fics updating too often, why not just deal with that directly? Set a limit that a post won't be updated until a week has passed since the last one. That way stories still get their hour of fame, there's less of them to deal with on a daily basis, readers get a whole bunch of story at once, and we stop seeing the same fic on the front page every day.

If you are going to stick with this format despite the negative opinion, the only suggestions I have are repeating that the title needs to be moved up to above either the description or picture, and possibly coloring the (New Chapter X) red, to match the normal posts. Otherwise it's not terrible. Stars and tags should stay on the main post, and would only further clutter these.

yartek said...

Gotta say I really like this format. One problem with the 'fics bump when they update' is that it makes people want to write more and shorter chapters even if the story doesn't need them, and also makes the frontpage messy with the same stories appearing time and time again, quantity over quality.

The_Owl said...

This new method has ruined my method for following stories via RSS feed by starring the posts.

Melodia said...

I like Exuno's idea. Instead of limiting updates by amount of words, just say that big update or small, they have to wait x-days. I can understand some people may not quite like that idea, and in a way it can get annoying because, after all, it's easier to remember what happened with a shorter time between updates, but at the same time it solves the problem of fics being drowned out, it creates less updates as a whole.
It's certainly good for the cases when you have two updates in REALLY short order -- I've actually missed a couple updates because I saw the fic and thought "right I already read the new chapter" but there was another chapter out already (and said can ALSO cause the lack of scrolling down further and missing something).

ridayah said...

I doubt Seth (or many of the others here) will read or care for this, but:

This is a brilliant thing to do. And it's working. So you have to click once more to go to the story page. But have you guys thought how much work goes into a site like this? I would bet dollars to donuts that Seth, Cereal, Phoe, Tek, and everyone else behind the scenes that I don't know of are swamped to the point of spending every spare minute on stuff.

Think about it. Just the basics. Reviewing submitted content, writing up posts, finding images, and posting. Checking them over to make sure they link right, are of a good enough quality, so on. Scheduling them. Pushing out an update or two an hour. I don't know about you but I can barely get one post on my blog done in three hours, let alone two in one. And there's other stuff. What about all the stuff that's submitted that we -don't- see? Writing up things like this, copy-pasta-ing, the nightly roundups, reviewing fics. Even with prereaders, assume they get 20 fics a day ranging from 3-10k words. That's 60k to 200k words a -day-, depending, which means every day there's enough writing down to match the smallest or close to the largest Harry Potter novels and each one in between. That's an awful lot. And it all has to be reviewed and read by several people and then decisions made.

Plus there's chat. And let's not forget their real lives. They need to cook. Eat. Clean. Do laundry. Go to school and/or work. Sleep, for Celestia's sake. Deal with family and friends. And still do all of this stuff, and any other things they may enjoy.

This, I'm sure, eases their burden of posting and managing slightly while still getting everyone all they -should- need. Come on guys, let's not be super picky on people who do us the huge benefit of running a site like this.

So Seth, and the rest of the EQD crew, I say good job, and keep it up!

And to the rest of you; simmer down. It's just a change, and there will be more in the future and complaining ain't the way to solve it.

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