I'm assuming the blatant mis-spelling of Hasbro sort of makes it a bit obvious. For those still unsure of the recent youtube pony bannings, it looks like this was the case all along.
That or Hasbro typo'd, but I doubt that's the case.
Not sure but the ones on Reddit worked last night. I'll be honest though, since I downloaded them I havent looked at Youtube much. I still want a higher quality tho :/ *hopes for DVD/BluRay set*
Yeah, I saw someone mention that too. I considered the typo too. Since no one is perfect. But I'd say for this, it would lean more toward trolls. And one's who don't check their spelling at that. :P
Pardon my language, but somebody really needs to get Youtube to look down their freaking pants and find the balls they've so clearly misplaced. Seriously, they are spineless when it comes to this stuff.
This is proof that Youtube's flagging system is too easy to exploit. Offensive? Flag it... it won't get taken down. Porn? Flag it, it will only get taken down if it's really porn. Copyright infringement? Flag it, autotakedown. Don't check credibility with the company, because it doesn't matter.
When Youtube has a right to actually make the decision on whether or not something infringes copyright without doing any research, it's proof that Youtube is becoming full of crap.
Thus proving that such things like Copywrite control are all automated. Were it an actual person, they'd have followed up on the claim before putting the kill order out.
While I do have the entire season on my hard drive, taking FiM off of youtube makes it harder to convert more people. I really do hope that this isn't Hasbro's doing, and that the videos will be reuploaded.
Unfortunately, there is very little that can be done at this point. It seems like a tremendous flaw in YouTube's intellectual property standards that just anyone can write in with a complaint and have any video taken down for infringement violations. Worse, once it happens, it's pretty much impossible to make it un-happen.
I know that AngryTiger, for one, attempted to re-upload some of his 1080p FIM episodes, only to find them immediately blocked. It's unfortunate and frustrating that the trolls can come in play havoc so easily and effectively.
I saw a post on Reddit/r/mylittlepony that seemed to confirm the latest panic about Hasbro going after YouTube users posting episodes was just ANOTHER example of trills taking advantage of the automated copyright take-down notice system they have (which I expect exists for small-time producers who wnat to protect their stuff and have no budget for a full-time legal department...)
Usually, when something like this is announced on EQD, the retraction (when the truth is known) is also posted promptly. What happened this time?
I don't blame the administration, they have enough on their plate... but it's up to all of us to keep them informed of breaking news, so the rest of the community can find out in a timely matter.
@ShakeBunny No the episodes will be back considering there hasn't been a crack down on the other channels hosting videos further justifies this as work done by trolls.
That and this is the third time this has happened.
Honestly people should know better. If it were actually hasbro they would have taken down the episodes as soon as they were uploaded http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/mast3rlinkx-videos-removed-from-youtube.html
I find it really sad that these people have honestly nothing better to do but to flag videos all day and hate on others. Hopefully things will calm down soon; this whole situation is really annoying.
And I knew this flag system was a terrible idea on Google's part; they really need to change it.
you have to file a counterclaim, MasterLinkx has done this before (as this is the THIRD time Trolls have done this to his channel) Angrytiger took down most of his own videos and seems to be too paranoid to file a counterclaim for fear that it was actually hasbro, same with Manlo who's investigating it.
You know, there's a think called the Digital Millennium Copyright Act that YouTube and/or Google has to worry about not violating. This is probably why YT is so draconian with handling copyright claims. Would you dilly-dally with checking the source of the flag and risk a swift lawsuit?
I hate seeing the damn copyright claim notice as much as anyone (if not more), but blame the DMCA and everyone that backed it for all of this crap.
While a copyright infringement claim must be submitted in writing in order to be legally enforceable, YouTube has an electronic submission form for copyright violation claims on its website. I assume that YouTube acts immediately on electronically submitted claims pending receipt of written notice from the claimant.
That said, their grievance system for a counterclaim (as in the case of a spurious claim, which this appears to be) is RUBBISH. Either way, I imagine it is company policy to wait a set amount of time for the written claim to come in before acknowledging that the electronic claim was falsely submitted.
If a false WRITTEN claim is submitted, then the claimant can be prosecuted for perjury, but there seems to be precious little avenue for redress against spurious claims submitted electronically.
I might be a peace loving pony, but that's just damned right unfair. I wonder if we could get Anonymous to fight for our internet rights and take down /b/ or something.
"Cupcakes Around The World" "Cupcakes Aro..." This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement from claimants including: [Habsro, Inc.], [Habsro, Inc.], [Habsro, Inc.]
Copypasta from Wikipedia, so you know why YouTube acts the way they do.
Like any other business, they're scared of lawsuits and liability, thanks to generations of TORT abuse.
"DMCA Title II, the Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act ("OCILLA"), creates a safe harbor for online service providers (OSPs, including ISPs) against copyright liability if they adhere to and qualify for certain prescribed safe harbor guidelines and promptly block access to allegedly infringing material (or remove such material from their systems) if they receive a notification claiming infringement from a copyright holder or the copyright holder's agent."
Thanks to the anonymity of the interwebz, any flaming douchebag can submit a spurious claim and receive immediate results.
One of the good things about having those YouTube videos is that you find comments that make you laugh your hooves off. They can provide as much humor, and food for thought as the episodes because us bronies can think up of unexpected, and interesting things to say. I'd hate to see that stuff deleted forever; I truly really do.
Someone can try creating a website where it hosts some of the most insightful comments regarding the MLP:FiM fandom, whether it is about the characters, the places, the behind the scenes, or just cracking a joke while watching a pony episode; whether it's short and tasteful, or long and worth a hoof-full of thoughts for something to talk about.
I don't remember, but there was a brony website somewhere that covers that. Anyone know what it is?
I knew it was parasprites and neighsayers from the very beginning. The recent false copyright claims of which you speak where the claimants couldn't even spell Hasbro, Inc. correctly only reinforce that fact. Hasbro would at least make sure to spell their own company's name correctly if they were going to flag all the pony videos, and they would definitely have admitted to copyrighting them on one of their sites. Hopefully MenloMarseilles and everypony else who had their FiM videos taken away and their channels deleted will have their videos reinstated very, very shortly, because this shit is getting VERY ridiculous here.
hasbro sells this shows to pay channels like boomerang and tbs owned channels over most of europe they have every right to remove this show from youtube, many of you should remember the hub is a cable channel that people have to pay for and quite frankly i see no right why "bronies" should get this show for free instead of paying for it. I also take the time to mention do any of you know how much hasbro makes from this show compared to toys and merchandise because im sure if more of you did you would not be supporting what is blatant piracy of this show.
@Buster Uh....What did I just read? Do you have any clue who Anonymous is? They came from 4chan! Heck, we came from 4chan, originally! Asking Anonymous to take down a part of 4chan would just be plain stupid! Even if Anonymous was for some reason sympathetic, they're only really interested in taking down large companies, to laugh at, or taking down people that offend them, for revenge.
@pixelkitties if they're immediately blocked it seems to say the smae thisng that fox would do if a simpsons or family guy episode were uploaded to youtube, this does not seem to be the work of trolls it seems official and i can only see good reasons for hasbro doing this.
just because one troll can file a copyright claim doesnt mean that hasbro wont file legitemate claims, there are just as many trolls as are official copyright owners trying to remove videos.
@TestDemo_ This is the third time this has happened to MasterLinkx's account. And signs are pointing it towards rogue activity. If it were actually Hasbro we would know the Difference.
we pay for the bandwidth and I can view every episode of Transformers on youtube. Hasbro has and will always just buy the toys mentality that they encourage actions that will get more fans that buy toys.
@TestDemo_ I still think that if Hasbro was serious about all this, the vids would have been taken down LONG ago. Like IkusaGT said, we would know if Hasbro was actively trying to get these vids removed.
Say, just to be curious, does anyone know how long it took for their pony accounts (or flagged pony episodes) to come back for those first two times? While I know that trolls have been doing this before, I have no idea how long the duration is.
You know, if push comes to shove, I would say just torrent the episodes until they release a DVD/Blu-Ray. I know I want to give Hasbro my money, and I will when the opportunity is available, but right now I have to make due with what I have, y'know?
Two weeks? All of your suspensions (pony-related, or not) are exactly two weeks? Anyway, Masterlinkx, thank you for informing me regarding this matter.
I pray to Celestia and Luna that those pony videos (fanmade, or actual content) will continue to convert non-believers, and curious people into bronies.
and, like it's been said before, if Hasbro wanted the videos down, they would both a) take them all down at once, not using the flagging system, and b) at least take the time to spell their own name right.
Hey, I kind of expected hasbro to support the youtube episodes, mainly because that was one extremely large factor to the number of hits and popularity gained for the show.
Still, this does not resolve the fact that the videos are removed, and it irks me to search the internet for non mega-video bull crap pony episodes. Somepony please keep us posted directly to the best online source for season 2 releases.
It doesn't matter if it's official or a troll. You can probably just tell Youtube something like "Habsro" doesn't own FiM and everything should be ok. It SHOULD be ok...
Curse you Habsro! We used to love Habsro, until they took down our videos because making children's tyos is more profitable then making carotons! We curse the very day that you, Habsro, came out of the debts of 4cahn! Now if you excuse me, I need to be off, I have a tyipng clsas to atetnd. Godo dya sris!
@TestDemo_ 1: Hasbro didn't do this. 2: Raelly? I can only see BAD reasons for Hasbro doing this. The show wouldn't have a thousandth the fanbase it currently does without their intellectual property being spread all around Youtube. At the core, the show exists to advertise the toys, and toy sales have definitely been up for this franchise due to its internet presence. I suppose the Hub might suffer a tiny bit from people not watching it, but a humungous chunk of the fanbase lives in places where the show doesn't even air.
the delusion of the fanbase that has bro cant care look at how many simpsons/futurama videos that make it past the filter, hasbro cant stop everyone that doesnt meant that they are allowing people to do this, especially considering that they are selling this show to PAY channels all over the world i honestly doubt hasbro will allow this simply for toy sales when a large amount of "bronies" wont even buy any toy especially ones that wont even look like the tv show suck as the princess celestia released already.
I notice a lot of people being angry at youtube over this, and yes, the system in place is easily exploited, but consider this:
There are millions, if not billions of videos on Youtube, far more than its staff could hope to police and keep tabs on. If an actual company (IE: not trolls) comes to them and says "This video infringes on our copyright, take it down," they're really saying "Take this down right now or we'll sue your asses off." Youtube's staff simply doesn't have the time to investigate every claim made before taking down the videos, so instead they take a "guilty until proven innocent" stance. They take down the video immediately to avoid lawsuits and if the user who posted the video makes a case that the video should remain up, Youtube considers it and might put the video back up. But from a legal stand point it's much safer for Youtube to take down potentially infringing videos immediately than to investigate them thoroughly first.
Which again basically equates to YouTube not having a spine and standing up for their users, which also equates to trolls and parasprites taking advantage of the situation.
@TestDemo_ Hasbro literally did not file a claim to any MLP videos for, if you're assuming that Hasbro was actually responsible, six or seven months. If they wanted MLP out of the way, they would have done it much sooner. Especially when the pony craze was still in full swing. It's fairly evident that Hasbro was okay with the pony videos pervading the internet. Hasbro is a toy company. And as such, they don't benefit as much from capping episodes online. That's the long and short of it.
Aside from that, The Hub being a non-standard channel doesn't have much to do with anything. Because if you want to argue ratings on the actual TV show, they've never been higher. It's The Hub's big show, essentially. It's enjoyed the highest ratings and heaps of acclaim, according to fiscal reports from none other than Hasbro. In fact, they've been signing deals all over the world. It was actually a newspost here earlier.
On the topic of the fiscal report, I should also be inclined to mention that Hasbro also reported some extraordinarily high sales of the MLP franchise. MLP sales rose 30% in Canada when FiM aired, it's grown 30% overseas and has remained strong in the US. This all happens parallel to a massive outburst of internet-bourne MLP love. Hasbro is not full of idiots. They've spent twenty years appealing to the "nerd" demographic and know exactly how to do it and most importantly know it's there. To assume they don't know otherwise is stupid. They knew the benefits of these kinds of persistent internet communities and adapt strategies to accommodate them. Case in point, the fact that pony videos have been left untouched (as the auto-flagging has been all but confirmed as trolls).
This is Hasbro's sister company. They're responsible for "Small Horses that Are in My Possession." The shows are similar, but different enough not to invoke copy write notices.
@TestDemo_ The bronies that don't buy any of the toys also wouldn't be that likely to pay for a whole channel just for one show. For now, The HUB only appears to be a North American thing since bronies on other continents aren't able to get that channel and MLP is instead hosted on other channels.
So far, Hasbro hasn't shown that they want the videos off of youtube. Every time there has been a copyright claim, it has been by fakes. Hasbro is one of those few companies to see youtube as what it can be, a free marketing service.
I think you're misunderstanding the relationship between Hasbro and bronies. Hasbro is delighted that we love the show and interacts with this site and the fanbase quite a bit. They're perfectly aware that most of us watch the show via Youtube, and have never made a claim or complaint before. This recent spate of bannings is unusual behavior in many ways for the company. They like their fanbase, and would tell us before/shortly after taking action like this. They don't openly say that the show doesn't make as much money as the toys, but considering that the original purpose of the show is to sell the toys, it'd make sense that they'd want as many people to see it as possible. Also, don't underestimate a brony's love for the toys. I'll have nothing else on my Christmas list this year. ;)
The video is removed immediately upon upload. I've been using Mentos' .mkv files, and I believe that this just means that those particular files are flagged by YouTube now.
I am not going to go through the hassle of editing the movie to get around this, if that is the case, and yes, I tried renaming the file before reupping again (surprise, surprise, it didn't work). I'm done, and the videos aren't coming back.
May upload Season 2, if Mentos continues to provide the 1080p rips, but I can't redo Season 1, as you see above.
I know that feel bro. Someone false flagged one of my MUGEN videos back in the day. I was pissed and tried reuploading and surprise surprise, just like the stupid copyright infringement system, the upload system is also screwed up.
What Hasbro should do is just send a letter to Google saying "Look, just ignore any and all digital copyright claims for My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic on YouTube. Unless we send you an official email telling you to cease and desist, you can consider yourselves safe from prosecution for hosting these videos." This would serve three purposes: It would stop the trolls from being able to get pony videos taken down via false copyright claims, it would show that Hasbro is not responsible for the takedown claims and it would give Hasbro a way to get the videos taken down later if they desired via email.
The guilty until proven innocent stance Twilight mentioned up above is pretty much a direct result of the DMCA. Not giving a site any temporary (until they can reasonably chekk for validity) protection if someone posts copyright infringement and the site is informed was a pretty big mistake when the law was written. Youtube is still partly at fault here for the way will take down entire accounts on unreviewed claims (unless there really are so many accounts with repeated claimed infringement that they don't hav the staff for that.) It's a really hard position for Youtube, but I think they would be able to do a somewhat more reasonable job of taking down based on claims if they had some way of screening infringement claims. Starting with chekking for a legitimate company name...
It really sucks. I live in Australia so I can't view The Hub on TV or online for that matter :( So non-North American bronies are screwed in that aspect without youtube :(
If I was the director of Hasbro I'd be EXTREMELY angry that someone impersonated my company and removed something that was giving it so much publicity for no cost. (Omitting the production of the show itself of course)
I'm a long time user of youtube and currently am cooljunkproductions on youtube and have encountered a DMCA copyright notice. That's what that is.
And the good thing is that you can dispute it, and with something as obviously fake as that, you will win the dispute.
And another thing: it really isn't Youtube's fault. Youtube's system is to prevent them from getting sued. There are soooo many copyrights out there, that youtube must allow anyone to file a copyright claim.
And Youtube must abide by the Digital Millennium act, so you really can't blame youtube! blame the haters!
Not sure if it's on the comments yet, but if you serach Mast3rlinkx on youtube, his E3 2011 Kirby trailer has also been taken down due to HABSRO Inc. Troll for sure.
Trollz! Y U NO LIKEY US?! But seriously it is a "bit" wierd, and I hope the best.(also don't wanna miss season 2, and without those lovely ppl I'm sure I will)
Yeah... Seeing as I can just download the whole season on torrents and *M* I can help but not care...
But for PMV uploaders this is kinda a jerk move on Youtube's and Hasbro's side. Any Hulu coworkers looking at the comments of this post please know your problem!! That damn Hasbro! or Habsro.... or whatever they want to misspell it in to!
What's so incredibly pathetic about this whole false flagging thing is, if the show were about, say, football and monster trucks, it wouldn't even be happening. There would be no haters. Sure, people who don't like it, but no haters or trolls.
The parasprites and neighsayers got PensivePony's videos taken down 12 hours ago as well... I've about had it with YouTube. I'm thoroughly convinced that YouTube's flagging system is automated... Even Derpy Hooves could do a better job at reviewing copyright claims than the people or machines in charge of YouTube are doing.
Meantime, if everypony feels as disillusioned with YouTube as I am beginning to feel, there are plenty of other video-sharing websites that don't cater to parasprites, neighsayers and false-flaggers. Seek them out. DailyMotion and Vimeo are two of those sites. There are plenty of others out there where you can upload pony videos without fear of having them falsely flagged.
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Get your stuff together Youtube.
So does this mean they'll be reposted. Or will youtube not bother with the hassle.
I say we trample them with a stampede of hooves!
Not sure but the ones on Reddit worked last night. I'll be honest though, since I downloaded them I havent looked at Youtube much. I still want a higher quality tho :/ *hopes for DVD/BluRay set*
Has it always been misspelled like that? And we're noticing just now? I feel so dumb
@Pantaro
Tolerance and love, bro.
Yeah, I saw someone mention that too. I considered the typo too. Since no one is perfect. But I'd say for this, it would lean more toward trolls. And one's who don't check their spelling at that. :P
Hahahaha
Hire million-dollar lawyers.
Misspell company name.
(Or maybe trolls. :P)
I wouldnt worry, doesnt habsro have the final say anyway?
Or... YouTube typo'd? Just saying.
Hahaha... I'm an official Habsbro lawyer and I'm scanning yo IP!
Ah, gosh. That news made my day, finally :D
@leaflet757 ...was that 'habsro" intentional on your part?
Pardon my language, but somebody really needs to get Youtube to look down their freaking pants and find the balls they've so clearly misplaced. Seriously, they are spineless when it comes to this stuff.
you think youtube would investigate the claims a little more closely before acting on them...
So... does this mean MLP will soon be unavailable on YouTube?
I can't get The Hub here, so it's really my only way to watch the show.
So, they hate ponies so much they would attempt to make a fake Hasbro?
Pathetic.
-_-
Habsro Inc. is a real thing. They own a rival animation series, Freindship is Mgaic, so they're probably just confused.
Confound YouTube's easily exploitable flagging system, it drives me to drink.
Haters gun hate... haters gun act... haters gun fail. That's how it goes...
On the subject of Hasbro doing typo's.
Shutterfly?
This is proof that Youtube's flagging system is too easy to exploit.
Offensive? Flag it... it won't get taken down.
Porn? Flag it, it will only get taken down if it's really porn.
Copyright infringement? Flag it, autotakedown. Don't check credibility with the company, because it doesn't matter.
When Youtube has a right to actually make the decision on whether or not something infringes copyright without doing any research, it's proof that Youtube is becoming full of crap.
youtube i'm dissapoint
Thus proving that such things like Copywrite control are all automated. Were it an actual person, they'd have followed up on the claim before putting the kill order out.
Easy solution: Give up on Youtube
http://www.dailymotion.com/user/MyLittlePonyVideos/1
Stupid parasprites.
Wait, has it always been like that, and we're just noticing now? xD
I checked the other post, it says Hasbro on the MenloMarseilles videos. when did this typo happen?
What a world, even trolls can't troll without a typo!
lol, worst troll ever. I think Youtube needs to actually investigate these claims, but, well you know Youtube.
Ridiculous, YouTube is such a joke.
And it's not just about the show, which I obviously can download, youtube comments make it 60% (not just 20..) more entertaining.
I dno't gte ti.
While I do have the entire season on my hard drive, taking FiM off of youtube makes it harder to convert more people. I really do hope that this isn't Hasbro's doing, and that the videos will be reuploaded.
@Fire.Esper
Oh yeah, I remember that, I watch that show every Saturday at 2AM on Teh Hbu.
Unfortunately, there is very little that can be done at this point. It seems like a tremendous flaw in YouTube's intellectual property standards that just anyone can write in with a complaint and have any video taken down for infringement violations. Worse, once it happens, it's pretty much impossible to make it un-happen.
I know that AngryTiger, for one, attempted to re-upload some of his 1080p FIM episodes, only to find them immediately blocked. It's unfortunate and frustrating that the trolls can come in play havoc so easily and effectively.
Which account had this?
The one from Menlo actually had Hasbro spelled correctly.
Wow, it's a good thing I watched all the episodes before the videos/user got banned!
Lucky me! :D
But I've seen 2 users in youtube which have been banned for having "copyright claim" and etc.
This must be stopped!
This is proof that Google ruined YouTube ever since it bought YouTube...
Most likely trolls, but then again remember the whole "Shutterfly" thing.
I saw a post on Reddit/r/mylittlepony that seemed to confirm the latest panic about Hasbro going after YouTube users posting episodes was just ANOTHER example of trills taking advantage of the automated copyright take-down notice system they have (which I expect exists for small-time producers who wnat to protect their stuff and have no budget for a full-time legal department...)
Usually, when something like this is announced on EQD, the retraction (when the truth is known) is also posted promptly. What happened this time?
I don't blame the administration, they have enough on their plate... but it's up to all of us to keep them informed of breaking news, so the rest of the community can find out in a timely matter.
I don't know wether I should laugh or cry.
@ShakeBunny No the episodes will be back considering there hasn't been a crack down on the other channels hosting videos further justifies this as work done by trolls.
That and this is the third time this has happened.
Honestly people should know better. If it were actually hasbro they would have taken down the episodes as soon as they were uploaded
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/mast3rlinkx-videos-removed-from-youtube.html
Some people just have too much time in their hands.
And they really waste it :D
OK... Trills=TROLLS (cowpatties!)
Huh, just realized Hasbro has the word "bro" in there. Who knew!
BWAHAHAHAHA
Oh my god this is hilarious.
I find it really sad that these people have honestly nothing better to do but to flag videos all day and hate on others. Hopefully things will calm down soon; this whole situation is really annoying.
And I knew this flag system was a terrible idea on Google's part; they really need to change it.
B-but... Habsro is my favorite company. D:
Stupid Habsro, getting rid of our pony.
@KShrike
Actually, Youtube /does/ take down all flagged videos, regardless of reason. I've done it before in the past.
This is only for MASTERLINKX Youtube account...the ones for MenloMarseilles is spelled correctly, same with angrytiger
HAAABSROOOOOOO!
Stupid trolls, let me have my pony! D:
They let the trolls do their thing, but they won't let the videos back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyQaH4QwLek
@pixelkitties
you have to file a counterclaim, MasterLinkx has done this before (as this is the THIRD time Trolls have done this to his channel) Angrytiger took down most of his own videos and seems to be too paranoid to file a counterclaim for fear that it was actually hasbro, same with Manlo who's investigating it.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6373833/My.Little.Pony.Friendship.is.Magic.Season1.Complete.720p.WEB-DL.
Who gives a shit
DAMN IT HABSRO.
@UnknownAnd if you happen to be at college and having your internet access monitored for illegal downloads?
You know, there's a think called the Digital Millennium Copyright Act that YouTube and/or Google has to worry about not violating. This is probably why YT is so draconian with handling copyright claims. Would you dilly-dally with checking the source of the flag and risk a swift lawsuit?
I hate seeing the damn copyright claim notice as much as anyone (if not more), but blame the DMCA and everyone that backed it for all of this crap.
While a copyright infringement claim must be submitted in writing in order to be legally enforceable, YouTube has an electronic submission form for copyright violation claims on its website. I assume that YouTube acts immediately on electronically submitted claims pending receipt of written notice from the claimant.
That said, their grievance system for a counterclaim (as in the case of a spurious claim, which this appears to be) is RUBBISH. Either way, I imagine it is company policy to wait a set amount of time for the written claim to come in before acknowledging that the electronic claim was falsely submitted.
If a false WRITTEN claim is submitted, then the claimant can be prosecuted for perjury, but there seems to be precious little avenue for redress against spurious claims submitted electronically.
Boo-sucks.
I might be a peace loving pony, but that's just damned right unfair. I wonder if we could get Anonymous to fight for our internet rights and take down /b/ or something.
@Fire.Esper
Goddammit I am trying so hard not to laugh in class right now
"Cupcakes Around The World"
"Cupcakes Aro..." This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement from claimants including: [Habsro, Inc.], [Habsro, Inc.], [Habsro, Inc.]
.... what?
Copypasta from Wikipedia, so you know why YouTube acts the way they do.
Like any other business, they're scared of lawsuits and liability, thanks to generations of TORT abuse.
"DMCA Title II, the Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act ("OCILLA"), creates a safe harbor for online service providers (OSPs, including ISPs) against copyright liability if they adhere to and qualify for certain prescribed safe harbor guidelines and promptly block access to allegedly infringing material (or remove such material from their systems) if they receive a notification claiming infringement from a copyright holder or the copyright holder's agent."
Thanks to the anonymity of the interwebz, any flaming douchebag can submit a spurious claim and receive immediate results.
inb4 HABSRO is new meme
@Bustertake down /b/
http://i.imgur.com/rfUHF.jpg
One of the good things about having those YouTube videos is that you find comments that make you laugh your hooves off. They can provide as much humor, and food for thought as the episodes because us bronies can think up of unexpected, and interesting things to say. I'd hate to see that stuff deleted forever; I truly really do.
Someone can try creating a website where it hosts some of the most insightful comments regarding the MLP:FiM fandom, whether it is about the characters, the places, the behind the scenes, or just cracking a joke while watching a pony episode; whether it's short and tasteful, or long and worth a hoof-full of thoughts for something to talk about.
I don't remember, but there was a brony website somewhere that covers that. Anyone know what it is?
@Aidinthel
I can do this.
Meh DailyMotion
Flipping trolls. I hope the uploaders can bounce back after this setback.
I knew it was parasprites and neighsayers from the very beginning. The recent false copyright claims of which you speak where the claimants couldn't even spell Hasbro, Inc. correctly only reinforce that fact. Hasbro would at least make sure to spell their own company's name correctly if they were going to flag all the pony videos, and they would definitely have admitted to copyrighting them on one of their sites. Hopefully MenloMarseilles and everypony else who had their FiM videos taken away and their channels deleted will have their videos reinstated very, very shortly, because this shit is getting VERY ridiculous here.
It's definitely a troll. Why would hasbro make 3 different claims (with typo) on a video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxBMnjlqHYQ
hasbro sells this shows to pay channels like boomerang and tbs owned channels over most of europe they have every right to remove this show from youtube, many of you should remember the hub is a cable channel that people have to pay for and quite frankly i see no right why "bronies" should get this show for free instead of paying for it. I also take the time to mention do any of you know how much hasbro makes from this show compared to toys and merchandise because im sure if more of you did you would not be supporting what is blatant piracy of this show.
@Buster
Uh....What did I just read? Do you have any clue who Anonymous is? They came from 4chan! Heck, we came from 4chan, originally! Asking Anonymous to take down a part of 4chan would just be plain stupid! Even if Anonymous was for some reason sympathetic, they're only really interested in taking down large companies, to laugh at, or taking down people that offend them, for revenge.
@pixelkitties if they're immediately blocked it seems to say the smae thisng that fox would do if a simpsons or family guy episode were uploaded to youtube, this does not seem to be the work of trolls it seems official and i can only see good reasons for hasbro doing this.
@Unknown do what you want because a pirate is free you are a pirate...
@TestDemo_
...except that it isn't Hasbro trying to take the videos down.
On a side note, I hereby declare the new name for any and all trolls to be "Habsro."
@Pony Corp - Ren
just because one troll can file a copyright claim doesnt mean that hasbro wont file legitemate claims, there are just as many trolls as are official copyright owners trying to remove videos.
@TestDemo_ This is the third time this has happened to MasterLinkx's account. And signs are pointing it towards rogue activity. If it were actually Hasbro we would know the Difference.
@TestDemo_
we pay for the bandwidth and I can view every episode of Transformers on youtube. Hasbro has and will always just buy the toys mentality that they encourage actions that will get more fans that buy toys.
@TestDemo_
I still think that if Hasbro was serious about all this, the vids would have been taken down LONG ago. Like IkusaGT said, we would know if Hasbro was actively trying to get these vids removed.
Say, just to be curious, does anyone know how long it took for their pony accounts (or flagged pony episodes) to come back for those first two times? While I know that trolls have been doing this before, I have no idea how long the duration is.
It'll only be a two week wait.
I've been suspended about 7 times already since 2006.
I'm use to it.
You know, if push comes to shove, I would say just torrent the episodes until they release a DVD/Blu-Ray. I know I want to give Hasbro my money, and I will when the opportunity is available, but right now I have to make due with what I have, y'know?
@masterlinkx
Two weeks? All of your suspensions (pony-related, or not) are exactly two weeks? Anyway, Masterlinkx, thank you for informing me regarding this matter.
I pray to Celestia and Luna that those pony videos (fanmade, or actual content) will continue to convert non-believers, and curious people into bronies.
@Pony Corp - Ren
continuation of previous post
and, like it's been said before, if Hasbro wanted the videos down, they would both a) take them all down at once, not using the flagging system, and b) at least take the time to spell their own name right.
@masterlinkx
for some reason, that made me lol.
Anyway, it's good to know you know your way around this kind of thing.
I wonder if any other fandom suffers from such severe ridicule?
Oh I'm definitely laughing at this cunning troll's mischief. There are other ways besides Youtube. Troll has been trolled.
Did anyone contact Google (the owners of YouTube) about this?
I'm going to now :)
lol oh those trolls XD you got to admit that freaks out a lot of us who didn't already download every episode.
but heck it was one that freaked us out, but we look at this and laugh like they did.
In the end, Bronies cant be trolled
Hey, I kind of expected hasbro to support the youtube episodes, mainly because that was one extremely large factor to the number of hits and popularity gained for the show.
Still, this does not resolve the fact that the videos are removed, and it irks me to search the internet for non mega-video bull crap pony episodes. Somepony please keep us posted directly to the best online source for season 2 releases.
Oh trolls, how you humor us.
Or is it Tro- -is sent to the moon-
Seriously? Get your sh*t together YouTube.
It doesn't matter if it's official or a troll. You can probably just tell Youtube something like "Habsro" doesn't own FiM and everything should be ok. It SHOULD be ok...
@Nittany Tiger
That just screams that YouTube/Google doesn't have a backbone.
This is sad, Trolls are using Hasbro name to take down pony, that's copyright in its own right. Y U SO STUPID YOUTUBE?
@Buster
>telling Anonymous to destroy /b/
>trying to destroy /b/
>telling Anonymous to do anything at all
>Internet fights
Oh, you.
Curse you Habsro! We used to love Habsro, until they took down our videos because making children's tyos is more profitable then making carotons! We curse the very day that you, Habsro, came out of the debts of 4cahn! Now if you excuse me, I need to be off, I have a tyipng clsas to atetnd. Godo dya sris!
I mean, just tell them Habsro Inc. doesn't even exist!
what's my opinion of all this you ask? it's the same as the red youtube icon going =/
Habsro has gone too far this time!
@TestDemo_ 1: Hasbro didn't do this.
2: Raelly? I can only see BAD reasons for Hasbro doing this. The show wouldn't have a thousandth the fanbase it currently does without their intellectual property being spread all around Youtube. At the core, the show exists to advertise the toys, and toy sales have definitely been up for this franchise due to its internet presence. I suppose the Hub might suffer a tiny bit from people not watching it, but a humungous chunk of the fanbase lives in places where the show doesn't even air.
@Dr. Robotnik
Instead of going after Sonic, you should be going after Habsro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4hRVyoGK5g&feature=related
Ok this is just downright stupid. "Multiple claimants" is the same misspelled fake name.
@BronyMike
the delusion of the fanbase that has bro cant care look at how many simpsons/futurama videos that make it past the filter, hasbro cant stop everyone that doesnt meant that they are allowing people to do this, especially considering that they are selling this show to PAY channels all over the world i honestly doubt hasbro will allow this simply for toy sales when a large amount of "bronies" wont even buy any toy especially ones that wont even look like the tv show suck as the princess celestia released already.
I notice a lot of people being angry at youtube over this, and yes, the system in place is easily exploited, but consider this:
There are millions, if not billions of videos on Youtube, far more than its staff could hope to police and keep tabs on. If an actual company (IE: not trolls) comes to them and says "This video infringes on our copyright, take it down," they're really saying "Take this down right now or we'll sue your asses off." Youtube's staff simply doesn't have the time to investigate every claim made before taking down the videos, so instead they take a "guilty until proven innocent" stance. They take down the video immediately to avoid lawsuits and if the user who posted the video makes a case that the video should remain up, Youtube considers it and might put the video back up. But from a legal stand point it's much safer for Youtube to take down potentially infringing videos immediately than to investigate them thoroughly first.
@aidinthel
Thanks for the link. I'll be watching episodes there since Youtube can't handle it anymore.
@Twilight
Which again basically equates to YouTube not having a spine and standing up for their users, which also equates to trolls and parasprites taking advantage of the situation.
@TestDemo_
Hasbro literally did not file a claim to any MLP videos for, if you're assuming that Hasbro was actually responsible, six or seven months. If they wanted MLP out of the way, they would have done it much sooner. Especially when the pony craze was still in full swing. It's fairly evident that Hasbro was okay with the pony videos pervading the internet. Hasbro is a toy company. And as such, they don't benefit as much from capping episodes online. That's the long and short of it.
Aside from that, The Hub being a non-standard channel doesn't have much to do with anything. Because if you want to argue ratings on the actual TV show, they've never been higher. It's The Hub's big show, essentially. It's enjoyed the highest ratings and heaps of acclaim, according to fiscal reports from none other than Hasbro. In fact, they've been signing deals all over the world. It was actually a newspost here earlier.
On the topic of the fiscal report, I should also be inclined to mention that Hasbro also reported some extraordinarily high sales of the MLP franchise. MLP sales rose 30% in Canada when FiM aired, it's grown 30% overseas and has remained strong in the US. This all happens parallel to a massive outburst of internet-bourne MLP love. Hasbro is not full of idiots. They've spent twenty years appealing to the "nerd" demographic and know exactly how to do it and most importantly know it's there. To assume they don't know otherwise is stupid. They knew the benefits of these kinds of persistent internet communities and adapt strategies to accommodate them. Case in point, the fact that pony videos have been left untouched (as the auto-flagging has been all but confirmed as trolls).
@Split Lighting
Now be fair, they are using Habsro's name to take down pony.
This is Hasbro's sister company. They're responsible for "Small Horses that Are in My Possession." The shows are similar, but different enough not to invoke copy write notices.
@TestDemo_ The bronies that don't buy any of the toys also wouldn't be that likely to pay for a whole channel just for one show. For now, The HUB only appears to be a North American thing since bronies on other continents aren't able to get that channel and MLP is instead hosted on other channels.
So far, Hasbro hasn't shown that they want the videos off of youtube. Every time there has been a copyright claim, it has been by fakes. Hasbro is one of those few companies to see youtube as what it can be, a free marketing service.
I can haz bro?
@TestDemo_
I think you're misunderstanding the relationship between Hasbro and bronies. Hasbro is delighted that we love the show and interacts with this site and the fanbase quite a bit. They're perfectly aware that most of us watch the show via Youtube, and have never made a claim or complaint before. This recent spate of bannings is unusual behavior in many ways for the company. They like their fanbase, and would tell us before/shortly after taking action like this. They don't openly say that the show doesn't make as much money as the toys, but considering that the original purpose of the show is to sell the toys, it'd make sense that they'd want as many people to see it as possible. Also, don't underestimate a brony's love for the toys. I'll have nothing else on my Christmas list this year. ;)
DAMN YOU HABSROOOOOOO!
For the handful of people defending me (aww, how sweet) and the one who called me paranoid (fuck you too, buddy):
I tried to reupload. I really did. And now the file is blocked on uploading. I couldn't file a counterclaim even if I WANTED to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyQaH4QwLek#t=0m55s
The video is removed immediately upon upload. I've been using Mentos' .mkv files, and I believe that this just means that those particular files are flagged by YouTube now.
I am not going to go through the hassle of editing the movie to get around this, if that is the case, and yes, I tried renaming the file before reupping again (surprise, surprise, it didn't work). I'm done, and the videos aren't coming back.
May upload Season 2, if Mentos continues to provide the 1080p rips, but I can't redo Season 1, as you see above.
Also, I decided the "P" stands for Pony. People can stop asking me that, now.
@AngrytigerP
I know that feel bro. Someone false flagged one of my MUGEN videos back in the day. I was pissed and tried reuploading and surprise surprise, just like the stupid copyright infringement system, the upload system is also screwed up.
For anyony still wanting to get the episodes...
http://www.dailymotion.com/user/MyLittlePonyVideos/2
What Hasbro should do is just send a letter to Google saying "Look, just ignore any and all digital copyright claims for My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic on YouTube. Unless we send you an official email telling you to cease and desist, you can consider yourselves safe from prosecution for hosting these videos." This would serve three purposes: It would stop the trolls from being able to get pony videos taken down via false copyright claims, it would show that Hasbro is not responsible for the takedown claims and it would give Hasbro a way to get the videos taken down later if they desired via email.
Yeah, I'm a dreamer.
Maybe people in Montreal hate MLP:FiM so much they made a company named HABSro Inc and claimed copyright
The guilty until proven innocent stance Twilight mentioned up above is pretty much a direct result of the DMCA. Not giving a site any temporary (until they can reasonably chekk for validity) protection if someone posts copyright infringement and the site is informed was a pretty big mistake when the law was written.
Youtube is still partly at fault here for the way will take down entire accounts on unreviewed claims (unless there really are so many accounts with repeated claimed infringement that they don't hav the staff for that.)
It's a really hard position for Youtube, but I think they would be able to do a somewhat more reasonable job of taking down based on claims if they had some way of screening infringement claims. Starting with chekking for a legitimate company name...
Yeah and now MAST3RLINKX us banned ah loved his videos DX
They took down the German Fandub, too.:<
@masterlinkx
I liked your parody videos a lot, how are we to find them under your new account?
F***ing Trolls, why can't people just live and let live :(. Youtube needs to make its flagging system WAAY less exploitable!
@EonMaster
It really sucks. I live in Australia so I can't view The Hub on TV or online for that matter :( So non-North American bronies are screwed in that aspect without youtube :(
If I was the director of Hasbro I'd be EXTREMELY angry that someone impersonated my company and removed something that was giving it so much publicity for no cost. (Omitting the production of the show itself of course)
They are going to come back guys. I just hope YouTube changes the way they ban videos based on how many trolling has been going on lately.
I'm a long time user of youtube and currently am cooljunkproductions on youtube and have encountered a DMCA copyright notice. That's what that is.
And the good thing is that you can dispute it, and with something as obviously fake as that, you will win the dispute.
And another thing: it really isn't Youtube's fault. Youtube's system is to prevent them from getting sued. There are soooo many copyrights out there, that youtube must allow anyone to file a copyright claim.
And Youtube must abide by the Digital Millennium act, so you really can't blame youtube! blame the haters!
@shaunr
No, it's YouTube's fault for having such an easily exploitable system that they probably don't even monitor in the first place.
Now,I'm assuming it isn't Hasbro,but I wouldn't say it's 'fully confirmed'. There are humans working there and they're liable to have typos.
Not sure if it's on the comments yet, but if you serach Mast3rlinkx on youtube, his E3 2011 Kirby trailer has also been taken down due to HABSRO Inc. Troll for sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WHgNh1Iedg
Trollz! Y U NO LIKEY US?!
But seriously it is a "bit" wierd, and I hope the best.(also don't wanna miss season 2, and without those lovely ppl I'm sure I will)
I recently watched a few episodes on Masterlinkx's channel. His are up. Atleast as of a few days ago.
Yeah... Seeing as I can just download the whole season on torrents and *M* I can help but not care...
But for PMV uploaders this is kinda a jerk move on Youtube's and Hasbro's side. Any Hulu coworkers looking at the comments of this post please know your problem!! That damn Hasbro! or Habsro.... or whatever they want to misspell it in to!
^ I meant ''I can't help but not care'' lol
@Danne2
*Yoda voice* And that is why YouTube fails.
Remember DON'T FEED THE PARASPRITES. Just Love and Tolerate.
We should make something like EquestriaTube or something!
That would be awesome!
@Kryptage
I just looked less than an hour ago. Masterlinkx's channel is down.
Also, as a Bruins fan, I would not put this past Habs fans. Just saying.
this is gonna be a probem when we don't get to see season2 :/
What's so incredibly pathetic about this whole false flagging thing is, if the show were about, say, football and monster trucks, it wouldn't even be happening. There would be no haters. Sure, people who don't like it, but no haters or trolls.
Society's norms are crap.
A second pony channel has gone down.
MAST3RLINKX. I think that's how you spell it.
I say we don't need to love and tolerate if they take our ponies away! Agreement anyone?
See, this is why I torrented the entire first season while I could. But I'm hoping Youtube won't get in the way of me seeing the 2nd season >:I
The parasprites and neighsayers got PensivePony's videos taken down 12 hours ago as well... I've about had it with YouTube. I'm thoroughly convinced that YouTube's flagging system is automated... Even Derpy Hooves could do a better job at reviewing copyright claims than the people or machines in charge of YouTube are doing.
Meantime, if everypony feels as disillusioned with YouTube as I am beginning to feel, there are plenty of other video-sharing websites that don't cater to parasprites, neighsayers and false-flaggers. Seek them out. DailyMotion and Vimeo are two of those sites. There are plenty of others out there where you can upload pony videos without fear of having them falsely flagged.
Remember when people accepted a fanbase's existence?
Yeah, me neither...
i just checked it again and i think it was a typo cause its fixed now
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